new driving laws - Page 2

rustic · 04-10-2012, 20:36

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Originally Posted by supergnome

Better to have a box fitted by your insurers than an undertaker.

I'll go along with that one.

solarman216 · 04-10-2012, 21:47

96, I go along with some of the restrictions on new drivers and well meant they are, trouble is with someone like you who has gained a lot of experience before hand it is hard on you, on the day you pass your test alongside another same age person who has only ever driven in a learner car, I know who I will be happier with as a passenger, it will be you, so you may have to accept some restrictions, like a black box in the car till you prove yourself to the insurance system (purely to keep costs down) then stuff it when insurance premiums drop, only my observations but anything to keep costs down till you start racking up no claims bonus, Rick

firebobby · 05-10-2012, 17:42

Just wait, now the insurance will start to go up for female driver, I bet they don't reduce the premiums for male drivers, it's a win win for the insurers

96terrano · 05-10-2012, 18:04

i just thought, i'm going to try as hard as possible to get insuranse on my t2 before a resort to getting another tempoary motor, how would 'they' fit a black box to my t2, it's not got a ecu so they couldnt record the speed that the ecu registers, as i think a lot of the black boxes work via the vehicles Can-bus system

briggie · 05-10-2012, 19:59

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Originally Posted by 96terrano

i just thought, i'm going to try as hard as possible to get insuranse on my t2 before a resort to getting another tempoary motor, how would 'they' fit a black box to my t2, it's not got a ecu so they couldnt record the speed that the ecu registers, as i think a lot of the black boxes work via the vehicles Can-bus system

probably gps based system

(RIP) PLANK · 05-10-2012, 20:36

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Originally Posted by briggie

probably gps based system

I agree, it would be a nightmare hacking into the cars wiring and on many cars it may have warranty implications

96terrano · 05-10-2012, 20:43

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Originally Posted by briggie

probably gps based system

good point, but you can't get sps signal everywhere

(RIP) PLANK · 05-10-2012, 20:46

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Originally Posted by 96terrano

good point, but you can't get sps signal everywhere

If i use my kindle as an example, it does, GPRS, edge, 3g, wi-fi, HSPA and HSDPA, (i think) and it swaps between whichever signal is strongest or available. So, most people would not be of the grid for very long and even then the time you left and came back compared to the distance covered would tell a lot about speed. And! how would you know if you were 'on-signal' or not

I assume they are, to a degree, like the emperors new clothes, and go faster stripes. They work because you believe in them. How much the really do is anyone's guess.

cncfabs · 05-10-2012, 20:56

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Originally Posted by 96terrano

good point, but you can't get sps signal everywhere

Where cant you get gps signal

solarman216 · 05-10-2012, 21:23

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Originally Posted by cncfabs

Where cant you get gps signal

under trees, indoors, in tunnels expect there are more, Rick

cncfabs · 05-10-2012, 21:30

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Originally Posted by solarman216

under trees, indoors, in tunnels expect there are more, Rick

You dont need gps in doors

in tunnels yes but ive never lost gps signal in the 8 years ive used it even in cheddar gorge you can still get signal

solarman216 · 05-10-2012, 21:43

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Originally Posted by cncfabs

You dont need gps in doors

in tunnels yes but ive never lost gps signal in the 8 years ive used it even in cheddar gorge you can still get signal

yes, sorry I lost the thread, thought we were talking about big brother tracking you as a person,

Rick

mr tickle · 05-10-2012, 21:51

I will be extremely angry if i ever have to have a government/police snoop detector fitted in my car.

but ironically.........

I would love it for my kids when they are old enough to drive

04-10-2012, 21:47	#17
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	96, I go along with some of the restrictions on new drivers and well meant they are, trouble is with someone like you who has gained a lot of experience before hand it is hard on you, on the day you pass your test alongside another same age person who has only ever driven in a learner car, I know who I will be happier with as a passenger, it will be you, so you may have to accept some restrictions, like a black box in the car till you prove yourself to the insurance system (purely to keep costs down) then stuff it when insurance premiums drop, only my observations but anything to keep costs down till you start racking up no claims bonus, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

05-10-2012, 17:42	#18
firebobby Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: South Bucks Vehicle: Terrano 3.0 SVE 2005 Posts: 3,499	Just wait, now the insurance will start to go up for female driver, I bet they don't reduce the premiums for male drivers, it's a win win for the insurers

05-10-2012, 18:04	#19
96terrano Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland Vehicle: Nissan Terrano 2.7TD LWB Posts: 8,024	i just thought, i'm going to try as hard as possible to get insuranse on my t2 before a resort to getting another tempoary motor, how would 'they' fit a black box to my t2, it's not got a ecu so they couldnt record the speed that the ecu registers, as i think a lot of the black boxes work via the vehicles Can-bus system

05-10-2012, 21:51	#28
mr tickle Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Pontypool South Wales Vehicle: Terrano 2.7 TDI LWB 2003 Posts: 168	I will be extremely angry if i ever have to have a government/police snoop detector fitted in my car. but ironically......... I would love it for my kids when they are old enough to drive