Terrano MAM and Kerb weight

Fez_uk · 20-03-2012, 19:30

I am trying to work out if I am legal to tow my dads trailer.

Does anyone know the maximum authorised mass (MAM) of a SWB nissan terrano 2.7tdi?

And it's kerb weight aka unladen weight?

Thanks

cncfabs · 20-03-2012, 19:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fez_uk

I am trying to work out if I am legal to tow my dads trailer.

Does anyone know the maximum authorised mass (MAM) of a SWB nissan terrano 2.7tdi?

And it's kerb weight aka unladen weight?

Thanks

Max braked trailer is 2800kg its on the plate under the bonnet top figure is gross weight next one down is gross train weight subtract one form the other for max tralier weight

rustic · 20-03-2012, 21:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fez_uk

I am trying to work out if I am legal to tow my dads trailer.

Does anyone know the maximum authorised mass (MAM) of a SWB nissan terrano 2.7tdi?

And it's kerb weight aka unladen weight?

Thanks

With the later driving licence there is a maximum total weight, the problem with the Terrano is it weighs close to 2 tonne, so it doesn't leave a lot for the trailer.

So this will be the limiting factor rather than the maximum load that can be towed by the Terrano.

Fez_uk · 20-03-2012, 21:47

yes but to work out if I am legal to tow it I need to know it's MAM (maximum authorised mass)

Quote:

This should be taken to mean the permissible maximum weight

Its all very confusing and looks like having a bigger motor makes it worse. As it has the possibility to pull alot.

It's only a small trailer but does look like I am not able to tow it.

stinka · 20-03-2012, 21:58

So towing a caravan is illegal with a large 4x4 ?

Fez_uk · 20-03-2012, 22:00

guess it depends on size etc and what license you hold.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...es/DG_10013073

SPARKIEDOO · 20-03-2012, 22:01

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Originally Posted by stinka

So towing a caravan is illegal with a large 4x4 ?

Tin Tent should be illegal to Own

never mind Tow

geoffdown · 20-03-2012, 22:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fez_uk

yes but to work out if I am legal to tow it I need to know it's MAM (maximum authorised mass)

Its all very confusing and looks like having a bigger motor makes it worse. As it has the possibility to pull alot.

It's only a small trailer but does look like I am not able to tow it.

how heavy is the trailer

kerb weight for 3 door is 1730kg but gross vehicle weight is 2300kg so ur trailer has to weight less than 1200kg or take the tralier test

cncfabs · 20-03-2012, 22:05

Mam and gross weight are the same thing just over 2 tonnes on lwb

christof123 · 20-03-2012, 22:07

It looks like MAM is just the gross train weight as long as you dont exceed that then it depends on the catagories on your licences as to what you can tow?

Fez_uk · 20-03-2012, 22:10

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how heavy is the trailer kerb weight for 3 door is 1730kg but gross vehicle weight is 2300kg so ur trailer has to weight less than 1200kg or take the tralier test

it's not the trailer weight but the MAM, (maximum authorised mass a.k.a permissible maximum weight) Of the trailer.

I Just need to make 100% sure what MAM the terrano is, The everything is easy to work out.

Quote:

Mam and gross weight are the same thing just over 2 tonnes on lwb

Ok thanks for that, so MAM aka gross weight is 2300kg. So the trailers MAM cannot be over 1200kg.

geoffdown · 20-03-2012, 22:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fez_uk

it's not the trailer weight but the MAM, (maximum authorised mass a.k.a permissible maximum weight) Of the trailer.

I Just need to make 100% sure what MAM the terrano is, The everything is easy to work out.

Ok thanks for that, so MAM aka gross weight is 2300kg. So the trailers MAM cannot be over 1200kg.

sorry isnt that what i said so what is the gross of the trailer

Fez_uk · 20-03-2012, 22:18

in a way yes, but got confused as you never said gross weight before trailer.

Anyway it works out I cannot tow it with the terrano, It's over by 100kg

But it looks like I can tow it with a car. Nice rules.

Thomas-the-Terrano2 · 20-03-2012, 22:40

did you get your car licence (B) before jan 1st 97?

if yes then will have grandfather rights to B+E
and virtually no restrictions other than the gross
train of the car.

if post 1.1.97 the B covers gross train of 3500
where gross of car exceeds gross of trailer OR
gross of car eguals 3500 and can tow 750kg
trailer.

to get an E other than by grand father rights
involves a comprehensive test, best bet is a
commercial driving school. the school local to
me uses a 4 wheel load lugger box van trailer
to be fair smaller than a caravan but solid so
cannot see thru it on reversing test, as per
LGV/HGV tests were flat bed trailers were
barred some time ago.

Fez_uk · 20-03-2012, 22:43

Im after 97 sadly.

20-03-2012, 19:30	#1
Fez_uk Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mid-Wales Vehicle: Maverick 2.7 - Patrol 4.2 Posts: 5,645	Terrano MAM and Kerb weight I am trying to work out if I am legal to tow my dads trailer. Does anyone know the maximum authorised mass (MAM) of a SWB nissan terrano 2.7tdi? And it's kerb weight aka unladen weight? Thanks

20-03-2012, 22:40	#14
Thomas-the-Terrano2 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hackenthorpe Sheffield Vehicle: Terrano2 R20 lwb 2.7TDi Posts: 5,234	did you get your car licence (B) before jan 1st 97? if yes then will have grandfather rights to B+E and virtually no restrictions other than the gross train of the car. if post 1.1.97 the B covers gross train of 3500 where gross of car exceeds gross of trailer OR gross of car eguals 3500 and can tow 750kg trailer. to get an E other than by grand father rights involves a comprehensive test, best bet is a commercial driving school. the school local to me uses a 4 wheel load lugger box van trailer to be fair smaller than a caravan but solid so cannot see thru it on reversing test, as per LGV/HGV tests were flat bed trailers were barred some time ago. __________________ M6YTB / 20YTB '60' 2010 Ford C Max Zetec 1.6i, black '56' 2006 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0TD, silver 2021 Bailey Pegasus Grade SE Turin caravan Smile, its more likely to confuse. One Life, Don't Just Live It, Drive a Nissan, or ...... a Jeep. Owner of Nissan 4x4s 2005 to 2019, and maybe in the future too!

20-03-2012, 21:58	#5
stinka Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Staffs Vehicle: '02 Terrano TDI sport lwb Posts: 3,787	So towing a caravan is illegal with a large 4x4 ?

20-03-2012, 22:00	#6
Fez_uk Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mid-Wales Vehicle: Maverick 2.7 - Patrol 4.2 Posts: 5,645	guess it depends on size etc and what license you hold. http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...es/DG_10013073

20-03-2012, 22:05	#9
cncfabs Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: somerset Vehicle: terrano Posts: 1,947	Mam and gross weight are the same thing just over 2 tonnes on lwb

20-03-2012, 22:07	#10
christof123 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: cleveland Vehicle: terrano 2.7tdi lwb 2002 Posts: 185	It looks like MAM is just the gross train weight as long as you dont exceed that then it depends on the catagories on your licences as to what you can tow?

20-03-2012, 22:18	#13
Fez_uk Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mid-Wales Vehicle: Maverick 2.7 - Patrol 4.2 Posts: 5,645	in a way yes, but got confused as you never said gross weight before trailer. Anyway it works out I cannot tow it with the terrano, It's over by 100kg But it looks like I can tow it with a car. Nice rules.

20-03-2012, 22:43	#15
Fez_uk Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mid-Wales Vehicle: Maverick 2.7 - Patrol 4.2 Posts: 5,645	Im after 97 sadly.