2,7tdi 27e 4ngine with egr

chatter4ever · 20-09-2011, 22:18

Hi guys please please can anyone help I have bottom end seized my engine it did start up and was driven off the recovery truck and sounded fine there was plenty of oil and water in the engine,what I dont understand why the garage took the head off and told me the engine was useless demanded I bought a recon engine which I refused as £1200 was out of my reach so they towed the car back to my place with all the bits and bobs left in the back.So THE QUESTION IS can the engine be changed for a smaller one or can anyone out there repair my one I have been told as the ends wernt knocking it was likley to be repairable I am a pensioner so not much money but am willing to help out with the cleaning of parts being a gofer and supplying tea and bacon

butties my wife will even cook your meals whilst you are here.

makeitfit · 20-09-2011, 22:35

Changing to any other engine will cost a mint

Need more info really mate. What happened before the breakdown?
Any guesses from the recovery guys etc?

chatter4ever · 20-09-2011, 23:04

the recovery driver said it was heat seisure thought it might be the oil pump said something like the engines have this built in fault where the bolt from the oil pump falls out and lands up in the sump.

the guy who took the head off said that the this was normal to have the head checked for warping but I had not lost any water or oil the car just stopped on the mway with a very hot engine When it cooled down i checked the oil and water both levels were correct the car has now been standing for some time but i have poured a little diesel into the pots to stop the rings from rusting and seizing
this is all the info I have hope it will be of help
Dave

makeitfit · 20-09-2011, 23:08

So did you have a hot temp gauge? Could have been the water pump.
Never heard of the oil pump bolt story

Is the engine block still in place then? Was the head warped?

chatter4ever · 20-09-2011, 23:32

the temp gauge was hot not had head tested as gasket was in good nick no blow marks and the rad was full of water and no water in the sump

solarman216 · 20-09-2011, 23:52

could simply have been the thermostat, but do not think you should have any bottom end damage, more likely the pistons semi seized, and would have freed of as she cooled, with the head off it is possible to check the bores, see if you can see any picking up of the sides or any scores or evidence of piston ally on the walls, Rick

rustic · 21-09-2011, 09:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by chatter4ever

the recovery driver said it was heat seisure thought it might be the oil pump said something like the engines have this built in fault where the bolt from the oil pump falls out and lands up in the sump. Dave

Hi Dave, I have never heard of the oil pump falling apart.... built in fault my Ar*e.

No one on this site has had this failure as far as I am aware.

And we have lots of members. These engines are good for 300k+ miles if looked after.

Did the oil pressure light come on while the engine was running?

Did it go out within 2-3 seconds of starting?

Best of luck,
Rustic

chatter4ever · 22-09-2011, 22:14

Just to say thank you to all the members who took the time and trouble to reply to my posting

I will now eat a can of spinnach to get the strength to lift the head back on the car!!!!!!
by the way if anyone can help me put car back together it will be greatly appreceiated and the bacon butties and cooked meals are still on offer +a little cash to cover out of pocket expenses

solarman216 · 22-09-2011, 23:54

One little tip that I find useful for replacing the head is to cut the head off of two old head bolts, and just enter them into two holes each end of the block, place the gasket in position and lower the head guided by the two bolts, it reduces the risk of dropping the head onto the gasket in the wrong place and damaging it, it is a heavy head and hard to control once you have started the downward movement, with it on the two studs if it goes down with a thump at least it will be sitting in exactly the right place, Rick

20-09-2011, 22:18	#1
chatter4ever Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nth Yorkshire Vehicle: maverick 2.7 TDI Posts: 4	2,7tdi 27e 4ngine with egr Hi guys please please can anyone help I have bottom end seized my engine it did start up and was driven off the recovery truck and sounded fine there was plenty of oil and water in the engine,what I dont understand why the garage took the head off and told me the engine was useless demanded I bought a recon engine which I refused as £1200 was out of my reach so they towed the car back to my place with all the bits and bobs left in the back.So THE QUESTION IS can the engine be changed for a smaller one or can anyone out there repair my one I have been told as the ends wernt knocking it was likley to be repairable I am a pensioner so not much money but am willing to help out with the cleaning of parts being a gofer and supplying tea and bacon butties my wife will even cook your meals whilst you are here.

20-09-2011, 23:04	#3
chatter4ever Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nth Yorkshire Vehicle: maverick 2.7 TDI Posts: 4	2.7tdi with egr the recovery driver said it was heat seisure thought it might be the oil pump said something like the engines have this built in fault where the bolt from the oil pump falls out and lands up in the sump. the guy who took the head off said that the this was normal to have the head checked for warping but I had not lost any water or oil the car just stopped on the mway with a very hot engine When it cooled down i checked the oil and water both levels were correct the car has now been standing for some time but i have poured a little diesel into the pots to stop the rings from rusting and seizing this is all the info I have hope it will be of help Dave

22-09-2011, 22:14	#8
chatter4ever Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nth Yorkshire Vehicle: maverick 2.7 TDI Posts: 4	2.7 tdi with egr Just to say thank you to all the members who took the time and trouble to reply to my posting I will now eat a can of spinnach to get the strength to lift the head back on the car!!!!!! by the way if anyone can help me put car back together it will be greatly appreceiated and the bacon butties and cooked meals are still on offer +a little cash to cover out of pocket expenses

20-09-2011, 22:35	#2
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	Changing to any other engine will cost a mint Need more info really mate. What happened before the breakdown? Any guesses from the recovery guys etc?

20-09-2011, 23:08	#4
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	So did you have a hot temp gauge? Could have been the water pump. Never heard of the oil pump bolt story Is the engine block still in place then? Was the head warped?

20-09-2011, 23:32	#5
chatter4ever Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nth Yorkshire Vehicle: maverick 2.7 TDI Posts: 4	the temp gauge was hot not had head tested as gasket was in good nick no blow marks and the rad was full of water and no water in the sump

20-09-2011, 23:52	#6
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,429	could simply have been the thermostat, but do not think you should have any bottom end damage, more likely the pistons semi seized, and would have freed of as she cooled, with the head off it is possible to check the bores, see if you can see any picking up of the sides or any scores or evidence of piston ally on the walls, Rick

22-09-2011, 23:54	#9
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,429	One little tip that I find useful for replacing the head is to cut the head off of two old head bolts, and just enter them into two holes each end of the block, place the gasket in position and lower the head guided by the two bolts, it reduces the risk of dropping the head onto the gasket in the wrong place and damaging it, it is a heavy head and hard to control once you have started the downward movement, with it on the two studs if it goes down with a thump at least it will be sitting in exactly the right place, Rick