jerry cans

[makeitfit]

Originally Posted by puddle hoppers inc.

its the law, i didnt right it, gay or not
basics of tax paying are reciepts, not just writing shit in a log book. its fact not fiction.
so thats the legalities sorted.

Still gay

[exosteve]

Back to Tesco monday
fez I will send you some cash closer to the time to get me 40 litres or so for my return journey. I don't want to go shoppin while im there

my mind is settled thanks lads. the mot is proof enough without recipts

the way people have been talking to me had me worried. they made it sound as bad as using pink......

[makeitfit]

Steve, panic not, I think people are confusing PRODUCING and using
A producer MUST keep all records etc, but a user ? That's tosh I'm sure of it. You just need one ordinary derv receipt and any veg oil usage argument is shot to bits.
I still reckon for Joe blogs user, HMRC would have to prove you've used more than 2500 to apply any duty.

[jims-terrano]

Originally Posted by zippy656

hey have shops in Wales...


what ever next!

Not proper shops tho zips, they charge you for carrier bags

[exosteve]

Originally Posted by makeitfit

Steve, panic not, I think people are confusing PRODUCING and using
A producer MUST keep all records etc, but a user ? That's tosh I'm sure of it. You just need one ordinary derv receipt and any veg oil usage argument is shot to bits.
I still reckon for Joe blogs user, HMRC would have to prove you've used more than 2500 to apply any duty.

I keep all recipts anyway as I put them through my books
bum I forgot to keep my oil recipts I put them through too

[spinna]

Originally Posted by makeitfit

Steve, panic not, I think people are confusing PRODUCING and using

A producer MUST keep all records etc, but a user ? That's tosh I'm sure of it. You just need one ordinary derv receipt and any veg oil usage argument is shot to bits.

I still reckon for Joe blogs user, HMRC would have to prove you've used more than 2500 to apply any duty.

Anything NOT involving the tax man yes but when tax involved it's upto us to prove but as others have noted there is no reason an mot certificate can't be used as proof.


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[makeitfit]

Did you know that you don't have to have the mileage put on the MOT

[puddle hoppers inc.]

Originally Posted by makeitfit

Steve, panic not, I think people are confusing PRODUCING and using
A producer MUST keep all records etc, but a user ? That's tosh I'm sure of it. You just need one ordinary derv receipt and any veg oil usage argument is shot to bits.
I still reckon for Joe blogs user, HMRC would have to prove you've used more than 2500 to apply any duty.

no, i have run many vehicles over many years on veg. it is the user who is responsible, just as a tax man would expect.... google is free if you dont trust me....
auto hubs are gayer than side steps

[puddle hoppers inc.]

Originally Posted by exosteve

I keep all recipts anyway as I put them through my books
bum I forgot to keep my oil recipts I put them through too

thats commercial, you would get taxed.... heavily....

[makeitfit]

's allright I'm on manuals
I don't distrust you but CBA to google it either . I'll bow out quietly stage left
The last thing I'll be thinking of is letting the tax man know where my money comes and goes to and from

[makeitfit]

Originally Posted by puddle hoppers inc.

thats commercial, you would get taxed.... heavily....

explain

[makeitfit]

or put it this way, why would one ever keep more than 2500 litres worth of receipts

[puddle hoppers inc.]

well, if you run a business everything you spend on said business is taxed at different levels. you buy bread for toast you can claim the tax back etc
if you are using veg oil to fuel company vehicles it is liable to tax on top, thats the way it is, always has been. the government(not us) make shitloads out of derv on the hgv side of things why would they not try to fleece us too?
the tax man has no friends......

[puddle hoppers inc.]

Now hang on a minute! You get out of your truck and dig out your wheel to turn a primative switch to engage 4wd? Wtf???

[Lazy-Ferret]

Originally Posted by makeitfit

or put it this way, why would one ever keep more than 2500 litres worth of receipts

Exactly, receipts are normally to prove you have actually spent the money, so you can claim it back, which means if you loose the receipt, you loose out financially (No receipt, no money).

Expecting you to keep receipts to prove you have used more than your oil allowance just would never work. Even if anyone was running 100% veg, and doing only 25MPG, they would need to be doing 14500 miles a year, which is unlikely in a 10 to 20 year old T2.

Even if someone was, they would just save every other Veg receipt and ask their mates to give them their Diesel receipts for the slim chance they might get caught by Customs and Excise.

As I used to claim mileage for work, I got into the habit of keeping a record in a Log book of all fuel in, along with my daily mileage, and service history. You couldn't make that up over night, so I am sure it would be more than sufficient evidence should I really need it.