Need to Sell the Terrano now

[brettgilbert77]

After a recent run of bad luck I now have taken a new job with company car. I've had to move in with the girlfriend to a pokey little flat whilst my house is sold, but just fallen through so costing me a fortune. I don't have space to keep the truck, company car, girlfriends car and tools here so will need to get rid.
It's far from new and needs a bit of tidying up, but could be a good project for someone wanting to have a new toy.

It's a 1998 S reg SWB Nissan Terrano Salomon model, Manual box. This comes with the 2.7TDi engine. It's taxed until September 2014 (Tax rate is £126.50 6 months or £230.00 for 12 months). The MoT expires June 2015, so almost a years motoring to be had.

There are some advisories on the MoT this time, they are:

Nearside front upper suspension ball joint dust cover damaged, but preventing ingress of dirt
Centre clamp of the exhaust has a minor leak of gases (might just need tightening as the exhaust seems pretty good)
Offiside outer rear sill suspension component mounting corroded but not considered excessive
Nearside inner wheel arch liner insecure. (I removed the rubber liners from both arches for access, so these probably just need screwing back in)

It's done 137000 miles and runs fine on straight veg.

Since I've had it I've replaced the starter motor as it died whilst camping in Cornwall. I still have the old one if you wanted to refurbish it as a spare.
I've fixed one of the indicators as the previous owner had broken the connectors.
I've recently changed the oil, oil filter, fuel filter, Air filter and cabin filter.
I've repaired the heater blower resistor so the fan now works.

The spec of the car is:
Full leather interior in pretty good condition
Electric mirrors and windows
Air-con (although the belt has been removed, I have a replacement belt though)
Towbar with electrics, not tested
Rear work lights, activated by a switch on the dash.
2 x BFG Goodrich all terrains on the front which were pretty much new when I bought it. There's a mud terrain on the rear offside and a nail's stuck in the original which is now hanging on the back awaiting replacement. I think both back tyres could do with changing, then use the mud terrain as the spare.

Most of the body work is good, but the nearside wing looks like it's made of paper maché and the rear bumper looks like it's been bodged back together and could do with finishing off properly or replacing. Some of the panels are held on with cable ties in places and could do with tidying up, but should be relatively easy.
Oh, I replaced the two front ARB drop links, but one looks like it's failed already so I think the shocks could do with replacing. I've not had anyway to get this up in the air to have a proper look and now don't have time/space/tools to work on it.
The reverse light doesn't seem to work. I don't think it's just the bulb, possibly just crud in the switch on the box. Could be cleaned up, or replaced for about £15
I paid £700 for it a few months back with short MoT. I've now paid out for the tax Mot and a few repairs, so I was hoping to get somewhere near my money back. It runs well now and starts first time. It did have some air in the IP, which was readily resolved by Jules cracking open the injector unions. Hasn't caused any issues since.
I've got a couple of spare stereo's so can include one with the truck.
I'm now based in Axbridge, so any viewing or collection would need to be done down this way.

[brettgilbert77]

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[brettgilbert77]

Shameless bump. Will pop an advert on Gumtree or eBay if no one wants it here.

[terrano bob]

give alexd333 a ring :lol:lol:thumbs

[AlexD333]

give alexd333 a ring :lol:lol:thumbs

Oyyy, it's got 2 too many bumpers for my liking :p

[terrano bob]

:clap:clap:lol:lol:thumbs

[brettgilbert77]

Oyyy, it's got 2 too many bumpers for my liking :p

The back one looks like it'll fall off pretty easily and the front one's held on with cable ties. So problem solved. :thumb2

[cncfabs]

Just up the road from me how much are you looking for it

[AlexD333]

The back one looks like it'll fall off pretty easily and the front one's held on with cable ties. So problem solved. :thumb2

Loving it :clap

Go on, get a bargain!

[brettgilbert77]

Just up the road from me how much are you looking for it

Well, I was looking for around £700, but will take less to get it sold quickly. It does have almost a years Mot On it and Tax til September, so can be driven for a while yet.
Not sure how much these break for, but it's got reasonable alloys all round and 2 new BF Goodrich all terrains on two. Happy if you want to pop round and take a look at some point.

[brettgilbert77]

Have now put it on Gumtree

http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/nissan-terrano-swb-salomon-model-s-reg-1998-27tdi-runs-on-veg-oil/1073823761

Still available to people on here for £550

[brettgilbert77]

Not much interest in this, might be on eBay soon then.

[brettgilbert77]

Managed to sell it to a guy who was really happy with it for £550.

That was a few weeks ago, then I got this email:

Two days ago my engine management light came on as the car turned into a tractor. I booked it in for today and am not happy at all. It is going to cost me a minimum of £900. You said that she was a good truck and that there was nothing wrong mechanically etc.

Steering o/s track end
Steering n/s drag link
Steering centre drag bar broken

N/s/r rusty (what you told me about)

Rear prop shaft is u/s (dangerous)

Front anti roll bar needs replacing

Link bushes (o/s missing)

Erg/air mass sensor depending which one it is.

I have been told that there is no way that this vehical could possibly pass an mot with the amount of damaged parts. It is an mot failure just for the bushes let alone a prop shaft that could break at any moment in time!!!

For an example...
My fiance drives this car and at speeds of 40mph or higher on the duels and the prop breaks it can dig into the road and flip the truck!!! I am fuming!!!

I want some or all of my money back. If you do not reply to this email I will meet you in person. If this is does not happen I will go to trading standards and take you to court as well as the garage who mot'd the vehical. The vehical you have sold me is unsafe/dangerous for the public highway and is not fit for purpose or as described.

I wait to hear for you reply.

Now, the Anti-roll bar needing replacing? really? Maybe drop links and bushes, but the bar?

Shouldn't imagine this is a MAF error (do they have them?) I expect this is air in the IP as I had that issue before and told him about it

Offside drop link bush missing. Told him about that, the drop links were replaced, but the offside one looked to have the rubber bush damaged shortly afterwards. These are what £10 each?

Not sure how he's got £900 to fix in mind.

I wouldn't sell I car I thought was unsafe, but then I'm going to end up having this back and selling it for parts to a breaker as I don't have time, or any need, to mess about with it.

[jims-terrano]

Not sure how you stand legally certainly you are not responsible for an MOT unless you are a professional tester yourself and put your name on certificate.

Are you a motor trader? If not then will trading standards be interested?

Morally if you told him it had faults and have proof such as a written receipt or advert then you have a clear conscience.

The bloke doesn't know how to spell vehicle.

He may of taken it to a garage and they've given him an inflated estimate for repair costs.

He's also threatened you "or I will meet you in person".

Carefull about giving him his money back as the registraction documents may be being processed in to his name so technically he's the owner.

I suspect he maybe pulling a fast one but you need to find out how you stand legally about unknowingly selling a vehicle with defects.

[AlexD333]

Not sure how you stand legally certainly you are not responsible for an MOT unless you are a professional tester yourself and put your name on certificate.

Are you a motor trader? If not then will trading standards be interested?

Morally if you told him it had faults and have proof such as a written receipt or advert then you have a clear conscience.

The bloke doesn't know how to spell vehicle.

He may of taken it to a garage and they've given him an inflated estimate for repair costs.

He's also threatened you "or I will meet you in person".

Carefull about giving him his money back as the registraction documents may be being processed in to his name so technically he's the owner.

I suspect he maybe pulling a fast one but you need to find out how you stand legally about unknowingly selling a vehicle with defects.

+1 on this dude, don't panic, you sold it in good faith, and all be it quit cheaply, terranos go for upto about £6,000

What did you actually say to him? And apart from that I guess it was just verbal right?

This is a lesson to all to make the buyer sign a "sold as seen" paper upon taking the vehicle away.

:rolleyes:

Now I must admit I don't like the way he's written this message, makes me suspect something, you never know what has been done to it, he might have taken it to devils pit for all you know and shagged it completely :nenau

If you want to give him a small amount of money back then so be it, but I would suggest to him it was sold in good faith, you are not a professional mot tester, nor is your name on one. :)

[AlexD333]

Oh blimey, just seen you sold it for £550... What does the dude want... Tell him to go and fix it!!

It came with tax and mot too?

[Madmark]

If buy some means you end up with it back I text you about it on gumtree and my mate is ready to come down and buy it for £500 bud my mobile is 07769154840

[brettgilbert77]

If buy some means you end up with it back I text you about it on gumtree and my mate is ready to come down and buy it for £500 bud my mobile is 07769154840

Thanks,
I actually deleted a load of old text messages yesterday and yours was with them. 10 minutes later I got his email :doh

I did go through the fact that the car had some issues and the suspension was a bit squeaky at the front which I assumed was due to the missing bush on the drop link. It was sold as a vehicle that needed work, but he was just using it occasionally to haul bails of hay up a track to his girlfriends horse.

The MoT test is only as good as the day it's done, so they'd be fine. The guy who does the testing is happy to turn a blind eye to some issues, such as the missing battery clamp, but wouldn't let me drive anything unsafe. I don't want him getting in the brown stuff though if this chap complains. Whilst I may not be held accountable by trading standards by selling a car privately and not being a mechanic, they may check him out.

I'll tell the guy I'll see the vehicle, have a good look over it and if it's not got many more miles on and no obvious signs of being abused I'll give him back hos money and take it back. No real skin off my nose. Also don't think I sent the V5 of to DVLA yet, as I couldn't remember where I put the paperwork, so probably okay on that front.

[AlexD333]

Dont talk yourself into a hole dude, you sold it on good intentions and mentioned the work you know. I wouldnt start going back and forth, nor do I think you are responsible for any comeback :thumb2

[Fez_uk]

Probably a scam. He can request the logbook with the counterpart if it got lost in post or whatever.

Your a private seller? it's sold as seen. he was happy with it when he handed over the money. End of! It's a £550 motor, what did he expect a mint condition vehicle!?

Ignore it

But if you are worried go and have a chat with the place that MOT'ed it and see what they say. It's not your problem they may have missed a few things on the MOT.

[brettgilbert77]

Probably a scam. He can request the logbook with the counterpart if it got lost in post or whatever.

Your a private seller? it's sold as seen. he was happy with it when he handed over the money. End of! It's a £550 motor, what did he expect a mint condition vehicle!?

Ignore it

But if you are worried go and have a chat with the place that MOT'ed it and see what they say. It's not your problem they may have missed a few things on the MOT.

Yeah, I'm a private seller, but if Mark's mate will take it for £500 I'll tell this chap I'll give him £500 back as I don't really need to take it.
Just concerned if he does kick up a stink then the MoT tester might get in trouble, or at least not think the best of me. If I don't lose out then it's not really a problem. Not worried about him threatening to 'come round my house' as I've moved house since then anyway.

[macabethiel]

I think you are on safe ground if you start offering a refund then it leads you open to cost incurred by him such as insurance cover / cancellation / collection costs etc.

The Mot advises are fine you will not get anyone in trouble in my opinion.

[AlexD333]

I think you are on safe ground if you start offering a refund then it leads you open to cost incurred by him such as insurance cover / cancellation / collection costs etc.

The Mot advises are fine you will not get anyone in trouble in my opinion.

A'men to that, I think youd be best keeping quiet and letting it all blow over. Start off polite but firm, once you start admitting this and returning that it will get very messy very quickly and the guy might start trying it on big time.

[brettgilbert77]

Managed to get the advert I posted on Autotrader:

It's a 1998 S reg SWB Nissan Terrano Salomon model, Manual box. This comes with the 2.7TDi engine. It's taxed until September 2014 (Tax rate is £126.50 6 months or £230.00 for 12 months). The MoT expires June 2015, so almost a years motoring to be had. Comes with a tow bar and dual electrics (not tested) It starts, drives and stops, It also runs happily on straight vegetable oil if you so desire. You can buy that new at a wholesalers for 75ppl, so can be quite economical to run. It's not a new vehicle, perfect for someone who needs a towing car or rugged off roader. there were a few advisories on the MoT, but nothing too bad and easy for a home diyer to sort out. The nearside wing looks to have been badly repaired/sprayed, and the rear bumper had been repaired and looks scruffy. The rest of the panels are in good condition for the age of the car, well, they're pretty straight anyway. Some are held on with cable ties in places though and could do with being tidied up. The Front tyres are almost new BF Goodrich all terrains, the rear two are a mud terrain on one side and road on the other as is the spare which has a puncture. I guess the mud terrain used to be the spare. Probably will need replacement rear tyres, which you could get part-worn for £30 each on eBay. Seems a shame to break a vehicle which someone could use though. It is an old 4x4 though, mechanically sound, but a little scruffy. Don't expect a new car., No service history, Next MOT due on 08/06/2015, Tax expires by 31/08/2014, Electric windows, Air conditioning, MP3 player, CD player, Leather trim, Folding rear seats, 15" Alloy Wheels, Spare wheel (Full), Power steering, Central locking, Alarm, Immobiliser, Driver's airbags, Passenger airbags

I've spoken to trading standards and they're saying that as I state it has an MoT then I'm not responsible for anything they didn't find during that inspection, nor anything that has happened since.

I still have the V5 though and DVLA are happy for me to just cross off this guys details and sell it to Mark's friend provided he's happy with it.

In a quandary now, email this chap back and tell him to stick it, or get it back for £50 less (provided it's not been damaged) and sell it to Mark's friend. Wouldn't be out of pocket, and wouldn't have this idiot contacting me about it.

[Fez_uk]

Tell him to stick it, You have no idea what condition this thing is in now.

The add and price clearly portrays a picture of the motor being scruffy, in need of attention. but someone with the right DIY knowledge could get a nice motor in the end with a few hours work.

[bry]

No warranty given or implied,by the looks of that advert.Keep a copy of the advert.If the guy gets back in touch explain the fact that you have spoken to trading standards about this issue.Also the fact you are not a qualified mechanic,therefore you listed any faults as you knew to be.And the truck was bought "as seen"

Also explain the fact he implied a threat"Coming to see you if need be etc"So the police may have to be involved.

[brettgilbert77]

Well,
Ed's happy to take it as a project vehicle for £500.

I've told the buyer that I will come and see it. If he's not wrecked it in the past 2 weeks and it still looks fine and drives like it did when I sold it I'll give him £500 of the £550 he paid.

I have the V5 and DVLA are happy for me to change the details to those of Ed.

If the buyer messes about, has damaged the car or is threatening then he'll be keeping it and Trading standards won't be interested in his case. I'd also call the police if he continues to threaten me in any way.

This way everyone's happy, I keep £550, the buyer gets most of his money back and Ed gets the Terrano as a project. Provided I don't smack the chap in the mouth when I see him noone goes to court :sly

I could indeed tell him to 'suck it up buttercup', but then Ed wouldn't get his project and I'd be getting snotty emails from this guy. So it's a Karma thing, :splif:

[AlexD333]

I think you are being risky by thinking about taking it back, whos to say he hasnt butchered something you wont know about. And apart from that, if this guy bails out on rebuying it your then stuck with your truck again that you didnt want.

I would just say to the guy "i sold it in good faith, im not a mechanic I just made some obvious observations about the condition, and it was fairly listed on the net. He was obviously happy with it or he wouldnt have taken it either, so if he trys the "im not a mechanic line" you can do the same :thumb2

Still think you are making hard work for yourself though :thumb2

[AlexD333]

Id give him like £350/£400

[jims-terrano]

Personally I would simply explain that you have been in touch with Trading Standards and taken advice. Be polite but firm say that you have no responsibility and you have no obligation to give a refund in part or full and such will not be doing so. Refer him back to the original advert but do not give him a copy. Do not say "sorry" or give any kind of refund as this maybe looked upon as admitting liability. A straight no is the way to go.

[AlexD333]

Personally I would simply explain that you have been in touch with Trading Standards and taken advice. Be polite but firm say that you have no responsibility and you have no obligation to give a refund in part or full and such will not be doing so. Refer him back to the original advert but do not give him a copy. Do not say "sorry" or give any kind of refund as this maybe looked upon as admitting liability. A straight no is the way to go.

Awesome, I like :cool:

[clivvy]

well, I agree with others, tell him to stick it. Cheeky arsehole, who does he think he is? his MOT mate has told him a ton of crap just because he doesn't want he car any more. Personally I'd tell him you'll buy it back off him for £400 since he has had two weeks to mess about with it.

Totally unreasonable, and he is acting like you are a trader, which you are not. If it were me, I'd accept it and move on. Its his OWN fault, not yours, this is just an example of the blame culture in this country, and he is simply trying it on, and how dare he use his wife as an excuse? He is in fantasy land also, so his mind has run away with him.

Tell him to get stuffed. Your MOT'r will be fine - this guy has no cause to contact Trading Standards about it, only you.

the idiot

[AlexD333]

well, I agree with others, tell him to stick it. Cheeky arsehole, who does he think he is? his MOT mate has told him a ton of crap just because he doesn't want he car any more. Personally I'd tell him you'll buy it back off him for £400 since he has had two weeks to mess about with it.

Totally unreasonable, and he is acting like you are a trader, which you are not. If it were me, I'd accept it and move on. Its his OWN fault, not yours, this is just an example of the blame culture in this country, and he is simply trying it on, and how dare he use his wife as an excuse? He is in fantasy land also, so his mind has run away with him.

Tell him to get stuffed. Your MOT'r will be fine - this guy has no cause to contact Trading Standards about it, only you.

the idiot

I like this even more! And if this doesent work out ive got one more idea :sly

[solarman216]

He is totally out of order, and to my mind a scammer, let him go to trading standards you are a private individual not a trader, you sold it in good faith the fact the engine management light has come up is of no consequence, a component related to this can fail at any time, not your problem, as for the MOT it is only a guide to the vehicles road worthiness on the day, and from what I can see you informed him of all issues known to you, now he is complaining, but not from his own knowledge, but that of a garage that clearly does not know what it is talking about, tell him to go away happy, if you get my meaning, Rick

[brettgilbert77]

Well, I've done it now.

Got the car back from him and can't get above 30 mph without a downhill stretch and a long straight run. Engine management light is on.

The chap who wanted to give me £500 won't answer the phone, email or texts so pretty certain he's decided not to bother. A tad rude not to at least say he's changed his mind, but there you go.

Actually agreed to use it in PX with cash on a new car for the missus, a Panda 4x4, but she didn't like the test drive.

Drove away and the offside wiper stopped working. Have had to park up and leave it where it is until the rain stops.

Think I might keep it now as a project, get these few issues resolved and have it as a toy.

Need to replace rear propshaft UJ, windscreen wiper motor and MAF asap, anyone local got a MAF going cheap or that I can use to test it?

[bry]

Must be someone close by,that will help..

[supergnome]

Must be someone close by,that will help..

LOOK in the mirror. You've had good advice and failed to take it. Sell it for scrap.
Sorry to be so brutal but you need a quick solution for your peace of mind. David.

[Sweety]

I would read the fault codes before fitting a new MAF as that might not be the problem:augie the MAF on my last T2 was totally dead but it never brought up the MIL light

[dave123]

Well, I've done it now.

Got the car back from him and can't get above 30 mph without a downhill stretch and a long straight run. Engine management light is on.

The chap who wanted to give me £500 won't answer the phone, email or texts so pretty certain he's decided not to bother. A tad rude not to at least say he's changed his mind, but there you go.

Actually agreed to use it in PX with cash on a new car for the missus, a Panda 4x4, but she didn't like the test drive.

Drove away and the offside wiper stopped working. Have had to park up and leave it where it is until the rain stops.

Think I might keep it now as a project, get these few issues resolved and have it as a toy.

Need to replace rear propshaft UJ, windscreen wiper motor and MAF asap, anyone local got a MAF going cheap or that I can use to test it?

how do you know it wasn't a con to change parts from yours to another one . all the parts are easy to change over and then complain saying you sold a dud and wants his money back. saves him buying new parts ?

[jims-terrano]

So who was it that was lined up to buy it? Is it possible that was part of a scam?

Whats happened has happened and theres no point dwelling on the rights and wrongs. You need to move forward. Certainly the easiest way is to flog it for scrap and then there is no come back at all. You wont sell for a good price now what ever happens.

Read the fault codes and see what they say?

Did both wipers stop working or just the os? If so forget about the motor it'll probably be a linkage that has dropped off for some reason. Are you sure that a rear propshaft uj has gone? Cheap enough to buy new uj from Milners.

Good luck

[brettgilbert77]

Well,

I wouldn't have thought the buyer I had lined up was any part of the scam as he came via here. It's a friend of Madmark called Ed.
I spoke to Ed White prior to agreeing to take back the terrano and he was absolutely keen. We went through everything I knew (and have now been told) is wrong with it and he was still keen, otherwise I would've gone back to the buyer and told him to stick it.

My main reservation about doing so was that the MoT tester could well have some busy body crawling over his workshop and that might upset him when I need future work doing.

If buy some means you end up with it back I text you about it on gumtree and my mate is ready to come down and buy it for £500 bud my mobile is 07769154840

I tried contacting Ed once I collected it and nothing. No reply to emails, texts and voice mails with the phone going straight to answer phone. I contacted Madmark and he suggested Ed's got something else so to put it on eBay.

I have read engine codes and I have 12 - MAF, 34 - Needle lift sensor and 47 - Crank Position sensor

Prior to selling the car I had no fault codes, so it may well be that the chap has swapped these out. Should that be the case I'll have a good look at the area to see if there's any evidence of tampering/removal. If I feel he's swapped out components I'll contact the police and report him. It seems unlikely all these components would fail at the same time.

[jims-terrano]

Ahh well sounds like the buyer has got something else so just move on then I guess.

Well you should be able to see if those parts have been tampered with. Im sure there was a member on here that found a cheap alternative for the ckp sensor. The lift sensor is usually number 1 injector I think and is an expensive part. You could simply spray some contact cleaner on the maf before replacing the whole item.

Best of luck

[AlexD333]

I hate to say it... :doh

[brettgilbert77]

I'll be having a very close look tomorrow at those parts. A MAF is only £20 or so, UJ £25ish. But then if I can see he's swapped them out I'll not contact him, I'll just turn up at his house with the police and have him arrested for fraud, no skin off my nose.
Would've been happy to have had the car back if it was just the fault's he'd mentioned, but if he's scamming me he'll soon be very sorry.

[solarman216]

if you can get a maf for £20 please do not bother, it will be rubbish, the cheapest reliable one will be £70 plus and not Nissan badged, if you want the info I will have to look it up but it has been on here so a search may sort it, Rick

[brettgilbert77]

I'll check the car over again tomorrow before looking at getting any parts, no point spending money if I just get the guy arrested and take back my £500. If anything's a miss I won't be ordering anything, just turning up on this chaps doorstep with the plod.

The issues he's been stating with track rod ends, steering rods etc aren't anything I can't sort out. Changing MAF's, Crank Sensors etc is easy enough. But if he's actually swapped them out then I'll just get my money back from him and see him prosecuted.

[jims-terrano]

I'm sorry and I really don't want to upset you but I really can not imagine that you'll be able to get any money back off him or that the police would be remotely interested. I think this may be a very bitter pill to swallow. I think that boat may have already sailed.

May be it would be a good idea to take it to a garage and let them inspect the vehicle. It may just be in a bad condition and cost far too much to make it worth while. Imagine how bad you would feel if there was an accident where somebody was injured or worse.

Sleep on it and think about getting it inspected for your own peace of mind.

All the very best with the car and I really hope you get sorted out as soon as you can.

[brettgilbert77]

Well, just got off the phone with Action Fraud and citizens advice. Also have had it reported to the local constabulary as this may be a crime this chap is happy to commit time after time, doing up cars by sourcing components in this manner and selling them on when otherwise it would not be economical to repair them.
Will see what they can do.

Might take a look and see if there's a local breakers who I could source parts from on the cheap. I could use a towing vehicle and have the cash to keep it as a toy now owing to a new job. Seems a shame to scrap it anyway, although I could stick it on eBay for parts.

There was a list or parts that needed to be replaced which included:

O/S Track Rod End
N/S Drag Link (worn centre)
Link bar boot broken
Rear Prop Shaft UJ U/S Worn
Front O/S Anti-roll bar drop link bush missing. I actually replaced these little while ago, but maybe the hole is elongated and has chewed it up? guess I'll replace again with an oversize washer over the hole.

I have some friends in a garage that rebuilt the front subframe of my Skoda Fabia a while ago for buttons, so will just source the parts and get this done if I don't get my money refunded.

Does also mean I'll need to look at replacing the MAF, Crank Position Sensor and Injector Needle Lift Sensor. Any pointers on sourcing them from somewhere that won't break the bank welcome. MAF and CPS seem easy enough to swap out.
Seems like the Injector Needle lift sensor is part of No1 injector and a matter of removing the whole thing to swap it out? Could a secondhand unit be worthwhile, rather than £180 for new? This chap obviously thought so by stealing mine anyway.

I'll keep you informed of the legal response. I would publish the guys name on here to prevent anyone else being had, but I'm sure you're all too shrewd to be caught out by the same scam.

[Fez_uk]

I don't think he is scamming like that, He just bought a motor and a few things went wrong with it (it happens).

Also maybe didn't like the ride of the terrano or maybe found a better example?

[brettgilbert77]

I've found a chap not far away who's got a terrano to break and had recently replaced the injectors Maf etc. I can have the No1 Injector for £50 plus crank and Maf for cheap. Might get some other bits and then get the front end sorted so I have a working tow vehicle.

I find it too much of a coincidence that 3 weeks ago I didn't have any fault codes and now I have 3 separate electronic failures. That's why I say scam.

Not a major problem, just means I'll be back on the forum and technical section whilst I get it repaired as a toy.

[Fez_uk]

Could be coincidence with regards to the fault codes

[briggie]

did you sign the logbook over , and same when you got it back ? ..... or you might find a few parking tickets etc in the post .

[brettgilbert77]

did you sign the logbook over , and same when you got it back ? ..... or you might find a few parking tickets etc in the post .

Spoke to the DVLA and they're happy to accept a a letter with it should i sell it confirming dates he had it. Any tickets etc issued and I'll send a copy of the completed log book with his details on it.

I didn't actually send the V5 off as I didn't get round to it, so I have it with his details on.

[brettgilbert77]

Looks like I'll be keeping the terrano for a little while longer then.

I had a good look underneath and I know I'll need to replace the front ARB drop link and will get the track rod ends done. Also will get a replacement UJ for the rear prop shaft.

There appears to be a large crack/split on this piece, so might need to get this welded up or replaced. Perhaps this is what upset the other chaps mechanic.

Anyone know the best way to get this sorted? and anyone in/near bristol/axbridge that could do the work?

http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj571/Nemesis201077/Terrano%20For%20Sale/IMG_0099.jpg (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/Nemesis201077/media/Terrano%20For%20Sale/IMG_0099.jpg.html)

The other side looks fine

http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj571/Nemesis201077/Terrano%20For%20Sale/IMG_0101.jpg (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/Nemesis201077/media/Terrano%20For%20Sale/IMG_0101.jpg.html)

Will be heading off to collect new No1 injector with sensor, MAF and Crank Position Sensor tomorrow. Might take the reverse switch too as mine's never worked.

[solarman216]

Looks like I'll be keeping the terrano for a little while longer then.

I had a good look underneath and I know I'll need to replace the front ARB drop link and will get the track rod ends done. Also will get a replacement UJ for the rear prop shaft.

There appears to be a large crack/split on this piece, so might need to get this welded up or replaced. Perhaps this is what upset the other chaps mechanic.

Anyone know the best way to get this sorted? and anyone in/near bristol/axbridge that could do the work?

http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj571/Nemesis201077/Terrano%20For%20Sale/IMG_0099.jpg (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/Nemesis201077/media/Terrano%20For%20Sale/IMG_0099.jpg.html)

The other side looks fine

http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj571/Nemesis201077/Terrano%20For%20Sale/IMG_0101.jpg (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/Nemesis201077/media/Terrano%20For%20Sale/IMG_0101.jpg.html)

Will be heading off to collect new No1 injector with sensor, MAF and Crank Position Sensor tomorrow. Might take the reverse switch too as mine's never worked.

nothing wrong with those two pics entirely normal, Rick

[brettgilbert77]

On the top picture it looks like there is a crack between where the single bolt passes through the lower arm and the two bolts to the right of it.
The nearside certainly doesn't have this large split.
Are you sure it's nothing to worry about? don't want the front wheel falling off or anything.

[solarman216]

On the top picture it looks like there is a crack between where the single bolt passes through the lower arm and the two bolts to the right of it.
The nearside certainly doesn't have this large split.
Are you sure it's nothing to worry about? don't want the front wheel falling off or anything.

the two bolt part is the tie bar from both sides, the single bolt is your suspension pivot for the bottom wishbone, it has to move or you would be rock solid on your front suspension, Rick

[jims-terrano]

Just be aware when a friend tried removing my rear propshaft from the rear diff it dribbled oil so I'm guessing when fully removed oil will pour out so get some lsd oil and drain the rear diff before removing the shaft.

[brettgilbert77]

Maybe the picture of the area's not clear enough. You can see the rounded end of the lower arm, just to the right of this there's a crack through the entire frame to the left of the bolts from the tie bar.
You can see at the bottom of the frame.
if you click on the image you should be able to zoom in on the area and see what I mean. If not I'll get out tomorrow and take some better pictures.

I'll get some LSD oil then. I have no idea when the fluids (other than coolant, and oil) were last changed any way.

[solarman216]

OK wait for better pic, but could not see anything bad in you other pics, Rick

[Lazy-Ferret]

Try this Rick, I have zoomed in, and I think that the split running vertically ip between the bottom Wishbone bolt, and the smaller double bolts looks very wrong.

[brettgilbert77]

Try this Rick, I have zoomed in, and I think that the split running vertically ip between the bottom Wishbone bolt, and the smaller double bolts looks very wrong.

Thanks Ferret, I knew I wasn't imagining things.

I will go get more pictures later and see if I can get a clearer idea how bad this is and exactly which part needs replacing/welding.

[solarman216]

yes you are right, I must get some new glasses, do not think I would be wanting to weld such an important part of the front suspension, it will in my view need to be replaced, but just been out and had a look and it is part of the chassis so weld it will have to be but only for a specialist welder, Rick

[brettgilbert77]

Okay, anyone know a realiable (and not too expensive) specialist welder near Bristol/Axbridge that could do this job?

[brettgilbert77]

Spoke to a local mechanic. He's had a look and reckons he can weld this up for £70 max. Should see about getting the O/S sill welding too, might even pass next years MoT then.

i had a good look at the rest whilst it was in the air. I know the O/S ARB drop link needed doing, but the track rod ends seem okay as do the drag links. There is a broken rubber though on the end of the steering bar, may not be an issue, but will see if I can replace that too. I don't think I can just replace the rubber part though.

Should be able to get it back running properly for £150. £70 welding, £70 Injector with sensor, MAF and CPS £10 Front ARB drop lnk

http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj571/Nemesis201077/Terrano%20For%20Sale/IMG_01271024x768.jpg (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/Nemesis201077/media/Terrano%20For%20Sale/IMG_01271024x768.jpg.html)

http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj571/Nemesis201077/Terrano%20For%20Sale/IMG_01261024x768.jpg (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/Nemesis201077/media/Terrano%20For%20Sale/IMG_01261024x768.jpg.html)

http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj571/Nemesis201077/Terrano%20For%20Sale/IMG_0125768x1024.jpg (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/Nemesis201077/media/Terrano%20For%20Sale/IMG_0125768x1024.jpg.html)

Typical, as I sat there on the forecourt coolant started leaking form the top hose too. Another little job I can be getting on with.

On the upside, I replaced the aerial that buyer had broken, so I can listen to the stereo in my broken up car :-)

Every cloud and all that