Early mot fail rules

[iandouglas]

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MOT CERTIFICATE VALID UNTIL FAILURE DATE

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http://www.motester.co.uk/CarOwnersG...OTQApage3.aspx

..............HI GUYS MY DISCO DUE FOR MOT NEXT MONTH AND I WAS GOING TO TAKE IT IN EARLY .......................
But remembered Briggie`s thread regarding Sheila`s Disco mot failure so I rang my mot test centre and asked the question and they directed me to this site.
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Also included the link.



A friend of mine maintains that if you have a car MOT Tested before the expiry date she will have 2 weeks in which to repair / drive it before it is illegal. I am under the understanding that once the MOT has expired you are not permitted to drive at all unless going to and from a place of repair (MOT Garage or otherwise). Please can you clairfy the correct and legal thing to do. Many Thanks, Dan Clark
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Your MOT is valid until its expiry date even if in the meantime your car fails the MOT - the original pass is still valid. In fact you can have the Test done up to a calendar month before the expiry date and have the new MOT forward-dated to the expiry date of the existing certificate. So if you have your car Tested during that month and it fails, this gives you time to have the repairs carried out and the car re-tested before the expiry of the original certificate and you are not disadvantaged as a result. - MOTT.

[lacroupade]

But its still a technicality...yes you won't get done for an expired MoT because the other ones remains valid. But depending on the reason(s) for failure, you stand to get done for driving an unroadworthy vehicle. And because the MoT fail will also be recorded on the DVLA database, you would be picked up for a stop by ANPR. :(

[makeitfit]

I think I agree with the Luvgluv on this:eek: It's double jeopardy as one can always be done for an unroadworthy car, but if it's on some data base in plod land then the dreaded ANPR will pick you up too :doh

[iandouglas]

this is what i was told at MOT test centre this afternoon .

they put me onto the web site


it dont say that in link though
eg.
Your MOT is valid until its expiry date even if in the meantime your car fails the MOT - the original pass is still valid.

In fact you can have the Test done up to a calendar month before the expiry date and have the new MOT forward-dated to the expiry date of the existing certificate. So if you have your car Tested during that month and it fails, this gives you time to have the repairs carried out and the car re-tested before the expiry of the original certificate and you are not disadvantaged as a result. - MOTT..
there seems to be a discrepancy ..
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[makeitfit]

Oooph, that's just what plod luvs, they'll have me done over before you can spell MOTT :doh
Facist jobsworths :o
I know what you mean that the MOT cert can be valid to a certain date, and that one can early book it and so get 13 months ticket etc. However if you fail the mot test in month 11 then by defenition the car is not roadworthy:confused:
I assume it's trying to let you drive home post mot fail to fix it up , but you try telling PC "I've got a target to meet" Plod that and see what happens:nenau
Once again the law is an ass:thumbs

[lacroupade]

this is what i was told at MOT test centre this afternoon .

they put me onto the web site


it dont say that in link though
eg.
Your MOT is valid until its expiry date even if in the meantime your car fails the MOT - the original pass is still valid.

In fact you can have the Test done up to a calendar month before the expiry date and have the new MOT forward-dated to the expiry date of the existing certificate. So if you have your car Tested during that month and it fails, this gives you time to have the repairs carried out and the car re-tested before the expiry of the original certificate and you are not disadvantaged as a result. - MOTT..
there seems to be a discrepancy ..
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No discrepancy.....all it means is, as I said above, that you don't commit the technical offence of not having a valid MoT certificate. But thats all.

If you fail the early MoT because, say, of structural rust, or defective brakes etc.. then your vehicle is unroadworthy and illegal to drive. And because the MoT fail is logged on the DVLA system (together with your current certificate), it will be picked up by an ANPR camera, so you stand an excellent chance of being caught.

[makeitfit]

I said that, but you said it posherer :o

[lacroupade]

I said that, but you said it posherer :o

we crossed in the post LOL

[makeitfit]

we crossed in the post LOL
I get cheques and invoices doing that :augie
Well cheques anyway, in the post :lol:lol

[iandouglas]

looks like best thing to do then is get them to do an mot without using proper documentation (back of a fag packet or such)then if it fails there wont be a record except park drive tipped.:doh

[lacroupade]

looks like best thing to do then is get them to do an mot without using proper documentation (back of a fag packet or such)then if it fails there wont be a record except park drive tipped.:doh

well that would work but only in a dodgy garage of course.

[iandouglas]

repeat this is what they told me this afternoon.
Your MOT is valid until its expiry date even if in the meantime your car fails the MOT - the original pass is still valid.

[briggie]

just to add to this ...... sheilas car failed the test mainly due to " excessive corrosion " on the inner wings , boot floor and such like , so by the definition posted in here of unroadworthy vehicle ..... id say that applies in the case of sheilas ( ex ) disco

[lacroupade]

repeat this is what they told me this afternoon.
Your mot is valid until its expiry date even if in the meantime your car fails the mot - the original pass is still valid.

correct as a stand-alone statement.

just to add to this ...... Sheilas car failed the test mainly due to " excessive corrosion " on the inner wings , boot floor and such like , so by the definition posted in here of unroadworthy vehicle ..... Id say that applies in the case of sheilas ( ex ) disco

correct and means an immediate offence despite ian's point above.

[Deleted account DD]

MOT fail means your vehicle has failed to meet some very very basic requirements to make it safe on the road.

Therfore anyone who continues using after that point is an arse. The get to repair clause is at the testers decision its not your automatic right, they can ground the car there and then if they want

Whatever the nuances of wording in legislation and whatever the keyboard experts say the fact is you can and deserve to be stuck on if caught. Been there and done it. One in paricular argued it had been a minor fail and went to court. The court held the view that a fail is a fail and in the opinion of a qulified expert ie the tester the vehicle should not have been on the road.

Quite rightly the accused was hit with all costs and a fine.

Result, one less proven unroadworthy vehicle on the road.

That's the way it is guys.

[iandouglas]

hi Daved.
thought you would be along soon.:thumb2
looks to me as mot station dont know arse from elbow.
bit bad them giving out that info on the web site.
could drop someone right in it.:eek:
think disco will be ok just needs service had new window screen fitted due to crack.
might need jet washing underneath though seems to have picked up some mud from somewhere.:augion the web site
once again thanks for replys.
rgds.iandouglas

[macabethiel]

MOT fail means your vehicle has failed to meet some very very basic requirements to make it safe on the road.

Therfore anyone who continues using after that point is an arse. The get to repair clause is at the testers decision its not your automatic right, they can ground the car there and then if they want

Whatever the nuances of wording in legislation and whatever the keyboard experts say the fact is you can and deserve to be stuck on if caught. Been there and done it. One in paricular argued it had been a minor fail and went to court. The court held the view that a fail is a fail and in the opinion of a qulified expert ie the tester the vehicle should not have been on the road.

Quite rightly the accused was hit with all costs and a fine.

Result, one less proven unroadworthy vehicle on the road.

That's the way it is guys.

Your vehicle can fail an MoT test if the screenwashers do not work - on a cloudless sunny day - hardly a major safety issue - not much difference between this and this last winter when your pipes & jets are frozen solid.

[Deleted account DD]

Your vehicle can fail an MoT test if the screenwashers do not work - on a cloudless sunny day - hardly a major safety issue - not much difference between this and this last winter when your pipes & jets are frozen solid.

Absolutely correct, hardly a credible example though :naughty

However if you want to develop the point....................

A flock of pigeons out enjoying a trip through the clear blue sky have a crap on your windscreen , you smear it all over the place trying to clean it off. Because of that and with the sun in your eyes you fail to see the black dog leaping out in front of you so as you hit it and brake hard in reaction your twin axle caravan jackknifes and wipes out the group of social workers waiting at the pelican crossing with the group of 40 disadvantaged children.

All because your washers didnt work :nono:nono

Stupid scenario I know but so's suggesting the average Joe would end up in court over window washers :naughty

I can assure you discretion remains and the example I cite was significantly further down the line than frozen or u/s windscreen washers. Be prepared to deal with the worst and deal sympathetically with the lesser problem ;)

[jace]

on one them road wars type programmes the copper had a right isue with washers,like he said if u cant see your an acident waitin to happen!