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I thought they were were ok to fit as long as you have adjustable headlights :nenau
If so then he'll be fine :D
Please advise though :rolleyes:
 
Here's what I've found regarding the legality of HID kits - nicked off another forum :

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidlamps - http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps

In the Department's view it is not legal to sell or use after market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID Xenon. If a customer wants to convert his vehicle to Xenon HID he must purchase completely new Xenon HID headlamps. The reason for this is that the existing lens and reflector are designed around a Halogen filament bulb, working to very precise tolerances. If one places a HID "burner" (bulb) in the headlamp, the beam pattern will not be correct, there will be glare in some places and not enough light in other places within the beam pattern.
The following is the legal rationale:
The Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989 regulate the situation in the UK.
Under these Regulations, HID/Gas Discharge/Xenon headlamps are not mentioned and therefore they are not permitted according to the strict letter of the law.
However new vehicles have HID headlamps. This is because they comply to European type approval Regulations. The UK cannot refuse to register a vehicle with a European type approval. These are to ECE Regulation 98 (for the HID headlamps which are tested on a rig in a laboratory) and ECE Regulation 48 (Lighting Installation on the vehicle).
For the after market, a used vehicle cannot obtain type approval because it is only applicable for new vehicles. However we feel that saying "HID is banned in the after market" would not be reasonable. Instead we should make analogies with new vehicles. It would be reasonable to require HID in the after market to meet the same safety standards as on new vehicles. The same level of safety should apply.
Therefore a HID headlamp unit sold in the after market should:
1. be type approved to ECE Regulation 98 as a component.
2. when fitted to the vehicle should enable ECE Regulation 48 to be complied with (although no government inspection will take place).
3. Comply with RVLR as far as "use" is concerned.
In practice this means:
1. The headlamp unit (outer lens, reflector, bulb) shall be type approved to ECE 98 and be "e-marked" to demonstrate this. That can only be done by the headlamp supplier - Hella, Valeo etc. who must test the headlamp in an independent laboratory.
2. Once fitted to the vehicle it must have headlamp cleaning and self-levelling (which can be for the headlamp or can be in the vehicle suspension - some expensive estate cars have "self-levelling suspension" and that is adequate). Also the dipped beam must stay on with the main beam.
3. The headlamp must be maintained in good working order, kept clean, and aligned/adjusted correctly like any other headlamp.
Under the Road Traffic Act 1988 it is an offence to supply, fit or use vehicle parts which are not legal.
In summary it is not permitted to convert an existing halogen headlamp unit for use with HID bulbs. The entire headlamp unit must be replaced with one designed and approved for use with HID bulbs and it must be installed in accordance with the rules stated above.
If you require any further information regarding the regulations covered by this fact sheet, please contact the DfT at the address below:
Transport Technology and Standards 6
Department for Transport
Zone 2/04
Great Minster House
76 Marsham Street
London
SW1P 4DR
Telephone: 020 7944 2078
Fax: 020 7944 2196
Email: mailto:[email protected] - [email protected]

Tough specification if you want to try and meet all criteria
 
I thought they were were ok to fit as long as you have adjustable headlights :nenau
If so then he'll be fine :D
Please advise though :rolleyes:

must be fitted with washer jets and be self leveling so not to blind on coming traffic:thumbs so would be very hard to do unless u can get a headlamp kit which will wash and self level:thumb2
 
Ah, "self leveling" bugger :eek: easy apart from that :doh
Night breakers it is then :lol
 
As far as i'm aware from an MOT perspective then if self levelling systems and headlight washer systems are fitted then they must be operational.

If not, then so what.

As long as the beam image is correct and the height and kickoff are in tolerance, and the light emitted from both headlights is white and not significantly different in colour then all good.

The police may view things differently along the lines of the stuff posted above but it wouldn't be the first difference of view between police and MOT standards!

If you're looking for a good kit that i've had personal experience with (i've bought 5 or 6 kits now for various peoples cars) then look no further. This is the kit i'm running right now:
Ebay link
 
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As far as i'm aware from an MOT perspective then if self levelling systems and headlight washer systems are fitted then they must be operational.

If not, then so what.

As long as the beam image is correct and the height and kickoff are in tolerance, and the light emitted from both headlights is white and not significantly different in colour then all good.

The police may view things differently along the lines of the stuff posted above but it wouldn't be the first difference of view between police and MOT standards!

If you're looking for a good kit that i've had personal experience with (i've bought 5 or 6 kits now for various peoples cars) then look no further. This is the kit i'm running right now:
Ebay link

it hasnt come in yet it was in with some other changes like dash warning lights will fail but think they r still thinking about it as it was surpose to come in april 2012 only what i have read and heard about form some mot testers:thumbs
 
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Also don't confuse the above Department for Transport (dft) stuff with what is required for the MOT which is administrated by VOSA (vehicle operating services agency) as the dft stuff isn't in vosa's manual.

Another example of 2 different agencies taking 2 different views on what is required for road safety.
 
Also don't confuse the above Department for Transport (dft) stuff with what is required for the MOT which is administrated by VOSA (vehicle operating services agency) as the dft stuff isn't in vosa's manual.

Another example of 2 different agencies taking 2 different views on what is required for road safety.

Close.....Same Agency, just different departments. Hence when you go on to the VOSA website it will say Dft above it.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/
 

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