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Madmark

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Wanna do second battery as I'm running a fair few extras now and thinking second battery is needed. So what's best way to go about it I have nice gap passenger side now behind headlight just right for the second battery but what's the best way to wire it all up or do I just buy a kit off ebay nut seem pricey
 
Hi Mark, when I did mine I used these guys. Good gear and good advice.

www.almsolutions.co.uk

They'll talk through what you need for the setup you want. They'll rate everything correctly for you and your batteries and get it delivered pronto!
Supplied a good intelligent VSR (voltage sensitive relay) with good quality flexible battery cable and terminals together with the appropriate fusing.
One stop shop!
Just like to spread the word about good service I've had....:thumbs
 
Very easy and convenient to buy a kit like that as Simon suggests, and he's right, but that particular kit is very light duty.......
Do get advice Mark. The minimum cable size for my dual batteries was 16mm2
 
I did think about doing away with air con and put second alternator
 
I did think about doing away with air con and put second alternator

Where did rick get with the uprated one that he was changing the pulley on? I subscribed but not seen an update in ages :(

Stll look for Nissan Elgrandes everyday for the nice bolt in place option from a QD32, didn't you say you father in law has one, what was your address again :lol
 
My dad has 3litre deisel elgrand

No not herd back from rick as would rather keep Aircon to be honest
 
Cable rating surely depends on what you are using it for. If you are winching then everything needs to be high rating surely. If you are using it for lights and camping that sort of thing surely theres no need for a second alternator or uprated for that matter.

I'd be making sure theres plenty fuses in there too.

I intanded fitting a lighter duty system for camping and days out to my project truck but she needs to go so no more spending.
 
I do have a fair amount of stuff obviously what the truck has as standard. 2 42" led light bars. 4x55wspot lights. Winch. Heated seats that I've fitted. Stereo equipment. Now electric fan set up. And its all being used alot especially this time of year just think it would be better to keep one battery for starting and running and winch and the second one for everything else
 
Where did rick get with the uprated one that he was changing the pulley on? I subscribed but not seen an update in ages :(
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One of the jobs that got put on hold when I got busy, still am busy so it sits on the shelf, and Madmark I could not find that AC pulley that I took apart, Rick
 
One of the jobs that got put on hold when I got busy, still am busy so it sits on the shelf, and Madmark I could not find that AC pulley that I took apart, Rick

Ok thanks fella ill try and have a look over weekend
 
Cable rating surely depends on what you are using it for. If you are winching then everything needs to be high rating surely. If you are using it for lights and camping that sort of thing surely theres no need for a second alternator or uprated for that matter.

I'd be making sure theres plenty fuses in there too.

I intanded fitting a lighter duty system for camping and days out to my project truck but she needs to go so no more spending.

One of the biggest problem with under rating the cable is when one battery has a different charge to the other, which can happen very easily and create very large currents passing between the two...

Most cheap split charge relays work on measuring the voltage to decide when to link the second battery into the circuit...

I have a volt meter on my second battery that has an under voltage buzzer, and often if I drive into a petrol station, on a long run, switch off the car and fill her up, then jump back in and start the car, the voltage on the main battery has not fallen enough to disconnect the second battery, and when I start the car I get a beep from the volt meter where the cranking voltage is being drawn from both batteries...

The second problem is when you run a lot of stuff off the second battery with the engine off, then start the car, when the voltage on the main battery rises to the point the relay can switch in, you have a situation where one battery is at a higher voltage than the second battery, and a huge current can flow from the main back into the second...

The third is effectively the opposite of the above, where the car is cranked over a lot running the main battery down, then when the alternator has managed to lift the voltage back up, the second battery is charging the first... again, large currents can be involved...

I used 16mm2 cable all the way on mine, and 200amp relay, with 150amp fuses at both ends of the lead that connects the two batteries.
 
Well fair point clive but surely people do fuse the cable that effectively bridges the two batteries? If you stick a 10amp fuse in the cable it will simply blow if the starter tries to pull juice from the second battery. I have also heard of people fitting diodes between them to stop current flowing back out of the second battery. I just said 10amp as an example but you get the idea just the same.

I personally don't like those auto sensing units, I've seen them fail and flatten the main battery twice. Not on my vehicles too. It's only my opinion based on experience that I have seen. I know others like them and that's their personal choice.

Good idea having a volt meter monitoring the condition of the batteries though.

By the way Rustic has a great idea, he has a nice thick cable with an old starter solenoid and a switch inside the cab. That way he can give the main battery a boost when starting in difficult conditions. Liked that idea since he mentioned it, apparently he's had that for over twenty years on his truck:augie


By the way Clive, what do you use to trigger your relay?
 
So how do the trucks like father inlaws trooper work that has two batteries from standard
 
Bet there's a lot of caravans incorrectly wired too. To me as long as you have fuses you are protected from most damaging situations.
 
So how do the trucks like father inlaws trooper work that has two batteries from standard

Two batteries in series for better starting in cold conditions. You get it on jap import trucks to cope with the cold Japan winters. Some of the systems will possibly be 24V. Once one battery goes it drags the other one down.
 
A decent kit should have all the bits that prevent charge flowing from leisure battery to starter battery.
As an aside, I use a separate battery/jump start unit for ancillary stuff.
 
How much we talking for decent kit so i can start saving lol
 

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