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It did mine anyway, and I don't even smoke, if you do, get one out now, turn on the volume and watch in peace :thumb2

On a serious note, it is hugely incredible to imagine just how insignificant we are in the grand scale of things, and a light year if I am correct, is the speed of light traveling for 1 year (670 616 629 miles per hour) so that distance per hour over 12.7 billion years :eek: is a long way away... http://youtu.be/7WMyDXBlHUc

Enjoy chaps, very very fascinating :bow
 
I prefer to think of the speed of light as being 186,000 miles per second, it is I think easier on the brain, and theses science numpties out there think that we can travel at that speed one day, well just think how much power is needed to attain 100 mph then how much needed to attain 1000 mph and you will soon see that to attain a fraction of light speed (for a small solid object) would take more power than is available in the entire world, Rick
 
I prefer to think of the speed of light as being 186,000 miles per second, it is I think easier on the brain, and theses science numpties out there think that we can travel at that speed one day, well just think how much power is needed to attain 100 mph then how much needed to attain 1000 mph and you will soon see that to attain a fraction of light speed (for a small solid object) would take more power than is available in the entire world, Rick

:clap well put rick :thumbs
 
Actually I think you will find that we have almost achieved the speed of light (for protons or similar) but infact some sort of anomaly (for which I cannot explain) :lol stops us hitting the speed of light and limits us to just under it.

I believe this was the huge unit used to try and create a black hole several years back.

Even so you must admit the scale of things on that video is crazy!!

For example, professor Brian Cox suggested that we must be the only life in space as the coincidence of the big bang is such a rarity... Errrr :rolleyes:

Then you look at the size of the small area we have been able to see (12.7 billion light years away) :eek: bearing in mind 12.7 billion years traveling at that speed of 186,000 miles per second is bloody far away!!! :eek:

And another thought which would throw a spanner in the works, although we are able to see up to 12.7 billion light year away, although you see a desolate planet in your telescope does not make it so, as infact the light you are seeing will be... You guessed it... 12.7 billion years old.... So yeah, work that one out :splif
 
I prefer to think of the speed of light as being 186,000 miles per second, it is I think easier on the brain, and theses science numpties out there think that we can travel at that speed one day, well just think how much power is needed to attain 100 mph then how much needed to attain 1000 mph and you will soon see that to attain a fraction of light speed (for a small solid object) would take more power than is available in the entire world, Rick


did you take into account that once out side the earths atmosphere even .5 of a hp has the ability to propel you to light speed... no friction, no gravity...that is the reason we build 1000 hp cars to over come these things that do not have an effect 800kms above earth?

In space you would have to change your calculation from "maintaining speed"...(which is why we build powerful engines)....to "time to reach speed" ...how long said craft would require to get to the desired speed as once reached there is no friction to slow it down.

we rely on natural forces to reduce speed such as friction of air over a vehicles surface but in space you would need equal and opposite force to acceleration to slow you down.

The NASA space shuttle's main engine produces 37 million horse power to travel 800 kms to escape these forces, but once in orbit even the pressure of CO2 being released from opening a can of lemonade is enough to change trajectory of a craft.
 
The NASA space shuttle's main engine produces 37 million horse power to travel 800 kms to escape these forces, but once in orbit even the pressure of CO2 being released from opening a can of lemonade is enough to change trajectory of a craft.

:lol thats amazing, 37 million HP?!!

and a can of lemonade strong enough to move a spaceship :cool:

I love space :naughty
 
7.66 kilometres per second (27,600 km/h; 17,100 mph)

Just another statistic to ponder on.....the speed at which MIR, the international space station travels, whilst in orbit. Other satellites travel at speeds double that.

Space travel, will require construction in zero gravity, and as mentioned earlier, will not require the phenomenal thrust capacity of Atlas rockets, to move them.

All this a far stretch from our earthbound Trols and Terries..........:nenau
 
did you take into account that once out side the earths atmosphere even .5 of a hp has the ability to propel you to light speed...

not correct, even the facility at Cern uses massive amounts of power to accelerate a particle to close to light speed in a vacuum admittedly gravity is still present, but the fact remains that to propel an object with any sort of mass to anywhere near the speed of light is next to impossible, and even if you did can you imagine trying to avoid dust and bigger particles that you hit before you can see them, at the speed of light you hitting a speck of dust would be catastrophic in the extreme, Rick
 
Just food for thought, Rick
A critical look at this issue must necessary embrace two new observations. First, Special Relativity itself was superceded by Einstein’s own more powerful General Relativity (1915), in which faster than light travel is possible under certain rare conditions. The principal difficulty is amassing enough energy of a certain type to break the light barrier. Second, one must therefore analyze extra-terrestrial civilizations on the basis of their total energy output and the laws of thermodynamics. In this respect, one must analyze civilizations which are perhaps thousands to millions of years ahead of ours.

The first realistic attempt to analyze extra-terrestrial civilizations from the point of view of the laws of physics and the laws of thermodynamics was by Russian astrophysicist Nicolai Kardashev. He based his ranking of possible civilizations on the basis of total energy output which could be quantified and used as a guide to explore the dynamics of advanced civilizations:

Type I: this civilization harnesses the energy output of an entire planet.

Type II: this civilization harnesses the energy output of a star, and generates about 10 billion times the energy output of a Type I civilization.

Type III: this civilization harnesses the energy output of a galaxy, or about 10 billion time the energy output of a Type II civilization.

A Type I civilization would be able to manipulate truly planetary energies. They might, for example, control or modify their weather. They would have the power to manipulate planetary phenomena, such as hurricanes, which can release the energy of hundreds of hydrogen bombs. Perhaps volcanoes or even earthquakes may be altered by such a civilization.

A Type II civilization may resemble the Federation of Planets seen on the TV program Star Trek (which is capable of igniting stars and has colonized a tiny fraction of the near-by stars in the galaxy). A Type II civilization might be able to manipulate the power of solar flares.

A Type III civilization may resemble the Borg, or perhaps the Empire found in the Star Wars saga. They have colonized the galaxy itself, extracting energy from hundreds of billions of stars.

By contrast, we are a Type 0 civilization, which extracts its energy from dead plants (oil and coal). Growing at the average rate of about 3% per year, however, one may calculate that our own civilization may attain Type I status in about 100-200 years, Type II status in a few thousand years, and Type III status in about 100,000 to a million years. These time scales are insignificant when compared with the universe itself.

On this scale, one may now rank the different propulsion systems available to different types of civilizations:

Type 0

Chemical rockets
Ionic engines
Fission power
EM propulsion (rail guns)
 
stay on the ground Alex and go off roading, far better than intergalactic travel, oh believe me if it were possible I would be the first one there, Rick
 
stay on the ground Alex and go off roading, far better than intergalactic travel, oh believe me if it were possible I would be the first one there, Rick

I'm getting the feeling all of a sudden your one of those guys that secretly got shipped away for years to Area 51 :lol

It would explain a lot of your skills too :thumbs
 
not correct, even the facility at Cern uses massive amounts of power to accelerate a particle to close to light speed in a vacuum admittedly gravity is still present, but the fact remains that to propel an object with any sort of mass to anywhere near the speed of light is next to impossible, and even if you did can you imagine trying to avoid dust and bigger particles that you hit before you can see them, at the speed of light you hitting a speck of dust would be catastrophic in the extreme, Rick


ermmmm...it's pretty well know (Einstein) ...It's the other way around the faster an object travels the bigger the mass...the stationary spec of space rock still has the same mass as it did 5 million years ago provided it hasn't bounced of something else on the mean time
 
ermmmm...it's pretty well know (Einstein) ...It's the other way around the faster an object travels the bigger the mass...the stationary spec of space rock still has the same mass as it did 5 million years ago provided it hasn't bounced of something else on the mean time

:splif::splif::splif::splif :lol
 
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