rear brakes shot

[perelaar]

Been very lucky today - on route back from the bakery one of the rear brakes seized.
Limped home, luckily not very far. Got the drum off with a lot of cursing, and indeed: all shot... Shoes, cilinder... One full day before I'm supposed to drive off on a long weekend fishing :banghead

I hope I can source replacement brake shoes etc tomorrow - and that I'll be able to fit them!

Anyone any tips on placing the new parts?

 

[rustic]

When replacing the rear wheel cylinders, I always remove the cap on the brake fluid reservoir and place a thin poly sheet over the reservoir, and screw the lid down, this helps to prevent fluid loss when disconnecting the wheel cylinder.
Clearly when finished remove the poly sheet.
Also make sure you have a water spray handy to wash off any spilt brake fluid.

To release the rear brake drums it is essential to slacken the M6 nut under the handbrake lever.
Take pics of where all the bits are before disassembling, and make sure any return springs are the correct way up, and check clearances of the springs from the rotating hub.

 

[jims-terrano]

When the garage were doing my rear brakes i noticed he had placed a bar on to the brake pedal to hold the pedal down. Says it helps prevent air getting into the system.

 

[Terrano Steve]

Just had my osr brake jam on too . When I removed the drum it was caused by the friction material had come unstuck from the rest of the shoe.

 

[perelaar]

Shoes actually look relatively ok, all the small springs etc as well. Only the little threaded forked thing is bent.

Other good news: I might have found a donor car for the parts - will hopefully keep me going until the new parts arrive.

 

[perelaar]

Donor parts confirmed! 120 miles round trip, but at least I might be able to go fishing in my own car

 

[rustic]

Just had my osr brake jam on too . When I removed the drum it was caused by the friction material had come unstuck from the rest of the shoe.

This seems to be a common problem, I wonder if it is specific years that are affected, or a particular supplier.

Shoes actually look relatively ok, all the small springs etc as well. Only the little threaded forked thing is bent..

Had you released the handbrake cable adjustment before removing the drum?

What I find is, I slacken the handbrake adjuster, then use 2x M8 bolts to ease off the drum, but when it starts to stiffen up, I slacken both bolts, then use my fist, or a mallet to tap the drum inwards, this is usually followed by a clunk as the brake shoes drop back to the rear plate, then the drum simply pulls off.

 

[solarman216]

bolts to pull drum off and bash it as much as you like to release the shoes, I have not broke a drum yet, Rick

 

[perelaar]

handbrake cable was released, but I noticed a lot of peeping the past days. Thought I just needed to clean the brakes...

 

[perelaar]

Well, bad news, sort of. Donor car parts were found, they come of a Maverick, same year as mine.
But, big but: while replacing the brake cilinder I noticed brake fluid seeping out of a small crack in the metal brake pipe that runs along the rear axle.

I suppose that pipe cannot be repaired, and has to be replaced?

 

[rustic]

Well, bad news, sort of. Donor car parts were found, they come of a Maverick, same year as mine.
But, big but: while replacing the brake cilinder I noticed brake fluid seeping out of a small crack in the metal brake pipe that runs along the rear axle.

I suppose that pipe cannot be repaired, and has to be replaced?

Certainly replace that pipe, you have only, luckily, found the weakest link, more will follow.
Many car accessory places can make one up, BUT worth taking the original so you get the right unions and flared flanges. There are so many different ones around.

Or you could get a mortgage and go to Nissan.
But hey... might be worth a call just in case.

Rustic

 

[perelaar]

Calling a friend this afternoon, he owns a large Peugeot garage near me. I reckon with his experience fixing French cars, a Japanese brake pipe will not pose issues

Just need a temp fix now, after my holidays I'm having all brake lines checked and replaced.

 

[AlexD333]

What's this of loosening off the handbrake level? Inside the cab?

Don't remember doing this last time??

Will be doing mine hopefully Saturday.

I need to get a start to finish of what to do though

 

[rustic]

What's this of loosening off the handbrake level? Inside the cab?
Don't remember doing this last time??
Will be doing mine hopefully Saturday.
I need to get a start to finish of what to do though

Well you could start with the workshop download.. Work shop 21:nenau


http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/downloads/workshop/wk21.pdf


Note to other members, take a moment to look at the downloads, go to "Quicklinks" and access them there. Browse ... some useful information there.:thumb2

 

[solarman216]

You only need to do this if you do not know the history, as some people thing this is the method to adjust the H/B, it is not of course, Rick

 

[solarman216]

Adjusting Alex or renewing shoes, we only did them a few months ago iirc, Rick

 

[AlexD333]

Adjusting Alex or renewing shoes, we only did them a few months ago iirc, Rick

Yeah we did them about 8 months ago, they are shot pretty much, very very thin material left on the rear shoes. It was filthy in there from mud ect

 

[solarman216]

Ah OK I know what Slindon mud does to my off road shoes, and it rarely goes out so your daily use motor will suffer far more, Rick

 

[AlexD333]

Yes must do...

I have just read the chocolate teapot guide for changing the shoes too :doh

Do we not have a proper step by step? :nenau

 

[Banshee]

Yes must do...

I have just read the chocolate teapot guide for changing the shoes too :doh

Do we not have a proper step by step? :nenau

STAY AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!

They are a ballache, you'll end up having to have a new axle if you try and replace them :lol :doh