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[neilk]

Hi all, I run a Mazda Bongo at the moment, but its now time to change, and as we now have a caravan we no longer use the elevating roof. So I was looking at importing a mitsubishi delica, untill i looked at a friends terrano, what a great piece of kit, it does all that i need.A couple of questions.
What should i look for when buying (any inherent faults/ problems?). and why are they so cheap?
many thanks
neilk

 

[zippy656]

towing i use a lwb 2.7tdi.. mpg about 30 solo 20 and a bit towing my caravan..

cheap, can be in the HIGH tax if a newer one..

have a good look round the site.

you mate on here???

oh and welcome to the forum!

Zippy

any questions JUST ask, some one will know the answer...

 

[harlowmaverick]

the only question that we cant answer is : why are they so cheap!
they are fantastic trucks, much better than my old range rover classic 4.2 lse anyway:thumbs

 

[Adz]

The only real down side is that once you've got 1...is...

































Ya'd wished ya'd done it years ago :doh


The only green oval I'd own is a Defender 90

Terrano's are bloody good work horses :thumbs

O & Welcome :clap

 

[clivvy]

hello mate! welcome.

I got my Mav for £1k exactly. Heres the problems I had:

faulty MAF
bad main positive wire
bad main negative wire
bad earth wire to chassis
bad starter motor
bad CKP sensor.

thats the main stuff, a couple of minor niggles also such as dashboard lights not 100% and erm..well, thats it to be honest! great car. Mines been off the road for a while due to fixing the above myself, but when it was working it was good. I used it to tow a caravan we bought, and you really couldnt tell it was there (unless you happened to look out the window)

It seems to me mate from being a member of this site for a little while that the common faults vary a little dependant on the year you buy. BUT the most common ones are MAF, mini filter and EGR valve. not heard any problems with the rear diff, but I suppose stuff like that is pretty obvious to check. if you go to buy one, I would take the guide from the downloads for checking the codes mate. It takes two mins. take the car for a spin (warm up) and take the codes, see what you get.

good luck!

 

[lacroupade]

Hi all, I run a Mazda Bongo at the moment, but its now time to change, and as we now have a caravan we no longer use the elevating roof. So I was looking at importing a mitsubishi delica, untill i looked at a friends terrano, what a great piece of kit, it does all that i need.A couple of questions.
What should i look for when buying (any inherent faults/ problems?). and why are they so cheap?
many thanks
neilk

whats your budget Neil? that will help to advise what age truck you should be looking for....

the old Bongo should sell OK, they seem to have quite a fan club!

I quite like the Delica - nice chunky macho looking truck thats a Shogun underneath, but I suspect over-priced and not cheap to run?

 

[neilk]

To get a 96 bongo or delica it will cost about 5K by the time you have had it undersealed,my budget is 4 to 4.5K, I dont want one later than 2001 because of the tax, and I would like one with under 80000 miles. Is there any difference between the nissan and the ford apart from the badge?
I am not sure what you mean about the codes, sorry:nenau
Many thanks for your replies
neilk

 

[neilk]

Found the codes download:clap

 

[danielj]

Hi all, I run a Mazda Bongo at the moment, but its now time to change, and as we now have a caravan we no longer use the elevating roof. So I was looking at importing a mitsubishi delica, untill i looked at a friends terrano, what a great piece of kit, it does all that i need.A couple of questions.
What should i look for when buying (any inherent faults/ problems?). and why are they so cheap?
many thanks
neilk

Hope you enjoy the site. Not sure if the Mazda Bongo is the same as the Mazda B2500 but I have a Terrano II 2.7LWB and a Mazda B2500. Must say I like both but the Terrano is different class of an animal compared to the Mazda. Terrano is more powerful, more solid, heavier and stronger and smoother/more comfortable. Mazda has nippy accelleration and seems to have a higher ground clearance than the Terrano. Mazda is also light at the back and rear end spins out easy enough on a wet road and it is also bumpy enough in the rough. Have found that the Mazda does not seems to make the going as heavy in mud as the Terrano but with that said I could't fault the Terrano as my one is a LWB 7 Seater family car with no modifications but lots of extra weight like bull bars, side steps etc. There is not much difference in fuel efficiency between the Terrano and Mazda. Mazda is a bit lighter on the diesel but then it is also a 2003 and 2.5ltres while the Terrano is a 00 and 2.7Ltr. I have used the Terrano for about two years now for commuting to work, approx 120 miles a day (costing me between E 15 to E 20 per 120 miles). Have had some problems with Terrano but nothing unusual for a car in constant use. As said by others watch out for Air Sensor problems and make sure that if a Terrano feels sluggish of lacks power that you have the problem sorted before purchasing and that you don't end up paying for a fuel pump recondition as happened to me. Also look for water or oil leaks (I have changed water pump and vacuum pump). Good question as to why they can seem relatively cheap compared to other 4x4's. I haven't found any reason not to believe they aren't as good as any of the other 4x4's generally available. I would recommend you take a Terrano for a test drive. Give it a bit of wellie and see what you think.

 

[tezzer]

hi and welcome neilk, proberly wont be a major problem for the year of t2 your looking for, but check for rust and rot, rear seat belt anchor points, back of cills, chassis should be ok, plus any other items other members have mentioned, i find my 2.7tdi a bit on the juicy side to be honest, but it is used quite a bit around town so proberly to be expected really. :thumb2:doh

 

[lacroupade]

Hope you enjoy the site. Not sure if the Mazda Bongo is the same as the Mazda B2500 but I have a Terrano II 2.7LWB and a Mazda B2500. Must say I like both but the Terrano is different class of an animal compared to the Mazda. Terrano is more powerful, more solid, heavier and stronger and smoother/more comfortable. Mazda has nippy accelleration and seems to have a higher ground clearance than the Terrano. Mazda is also light at the back and rear end spins out easy enough on a wet road and it is also bumpy enough in the rough. Have found that the Mazda does not seems to make the going as heavy in mud as the Terrano but with that said I could't fault the Terrano as my one is a LWB 7 Seater family car with no modifications but lots of extra weight like bull bars, side steps etc. There is not much difference in fuel efficiency between the Terrano and Mazda. Mazda is a bit lighter on the diesel but then it is also a 2003 and 2.5ltres while the Terrano is a 00 and 2.7Ltr. I have used the Terrano for about two years now for commuting to work, approx 120 miles a day (costing me between E 15 to E 20 per 120 miles). Have had some problems with Terrano but nothing unusual for a car in constant use. As said by others watch out for Air Sensor problems and make sure that if a Terrano feels sluggish of lacks power that you have the problem sorted before purchasing and that you don't end up paying for a fuel pump recondition as happened to me. Also look for water or oil leaks (I have changed water pump and vacuum pump). Good question as to why they can seem relatively cheap compared to other 4x4's. I haven't found any reason not to believe they aren't as good as any of the other 4x4's generally available. I would recommend you take a Terrano for a test drive. Give it a bit of wellie and see what you think.

LOL Daniel! Suggest you google the Bongo, its not quite a pickup!! :lol

 

[neilk]

What a bl@@dy good forum this is:thumb2
It looks like I shall be getting a terrano
neilk

 

[zippy656]

What a bl@@dy good forum this is:thumb2
It looks like I shall be getting a terrano
neilk

oh yes, we know its a great fourm,


IM HERE!!

 

[danielj]

LOL Daniel! Suggest you google the Bongo, its not quite a pickup!! :lol

As per your suggestion I did google the Bongo. Your'e very right. Not exactly a pickup. Won't be trading in either of my motors for one of them anytime soon. On a side note and only partly relevant to this discussion but relevant to something mentioned in a previous discussion, the 2.7 TDI T2 probably would do 95 mph. Had mine out on the motorway at weekend and was comfortable at 80 to 85mph and it could easily have been pushed further. I didn't see any sparks either?? Eventhough the Mazda B2500 is not a Bongo it would still be under pressure at 80mph. I have also taken a drive in a Pajero 2.5TD SWB recently and that would not seem to be anything of a match for the T2.

 

[lacroupade]

As per your suggestion I did google the Bongo. Your'e very right. Not exactly a pickup. Won't be trading in either of my motors for one of them anytime soon. On a side note and only partly relevant to this discussion but relevant to something mentioned in a previous discussion, the 2.7 TDI T2 probably would do 95 mph. Had mine out on the motorway at weekend and was comfortable at 80 to 85mph and it could easily have been pushed further. I didn't see any sparks either?? Eventhough the Mazda B2500 is not a Bongo it would still be under pressure at 80mph. I have also taken a drive in a Pajero 2.5TD SWB recently and that would not seem to be anything of a match for the T2.

Dan its good for an indicated 108mph in my experience....thats on the flat after a bit of a runup obviously! With GPT that equates to 97mph actual.

I drive to the south west of France a fair bit and regularly cruise my current facelift T2 the same as I did my old round headlight one, i.e. indicated 90mph with more pedal to go, travelling for three hours or more at a stretch until fuel light comes on. Never had a problem and still does 23mpg at that rate of knots.

But got to say, the cruise control (aftermarket) was an absolute blessing to avoid back/leg ache, and the Tunit has made a very big difference to general cruising and especially overtaking.....but buy refurbed on ebay, they come up a fair bit.

Interested to see yr comments about the Mazda B2500 as I looked carefully at that (or the B50 anyway) ; seemed to fare as well as or better than the competition. I wouldn't have a Nav after all the problems and it boiled down to the Isuzu or the Mazda - lots of the former in Wales and seem to fare well, the Mazda much rarer but apparently very dependable....has that been your experience? Still can't decide as it seriously pisses me off that I can drive a fully loaded T2 LWB pulling a fully loaded Ifor Williams twin-axle trailer over the Severn Bridge for £5.40, yet an empty pickup is £10.80!!!!! Ba5tard5!!!!

 

[neilk]

Which cruise control did you use?

 

[danielj]

Dan its good for an indicated 108mph in my experience....thats on the flat after a bit of a runup obviously! With GPT that equates to 97mph actual.

I drive to the south west of France a fair bit and regularly cruise my current facelift T2 the same as I did my old round headlight one, i.e. indicated 90mph with more pedal to go, travelling for three hours or more at a stretch until fuel light comes on. Never had a problem and still does 23mpg at that rate of knots.

But got to say, the cruise control (aftermarket) was an absolute blessing to avoid back/leg ache, and the Tunit has made a very big difference to general cruising and especially overtaking.....but buy refurbed on ebay, they come up a fair bit.

Interested to see yr comments about the Mazda B2500 as I looked carefully at that (or the B50 anyway) ; seemed to fare as well as or better than the competition. I wouldn't have a Nav after all the problems and it boiled down to the Isuzu or the Mazda - lots of the former in Wales and seem to fare well, the Mazda much rarer but apparently very dependable....has that been your experience? Still can't decide as it seriously pisses me off that I can drive a fully loaded T2 LWB pulling a fully loaded Ifor Williams twin-axle trailer over the Severn Bridge for £5.40, yet an empty pickup is £10.80!!!!! Ba5tard5!!!!

I wouldn't be considering cruise control or further tuning as I seldom get onto the motorway with the T2. There is not enough motorways around this part of the world to have a need for cruise control etc.
As to the Mazda and the Isuzu the constant advice I have heard is to avoid like the plague an Isuzu later than 99 as anything after that has "the bad engine". A friend had one and the engine did go in it. I have also heard that there may be difficulty in getting parts and supplies for off-road modification for the Isuzu but I don't know how valid a point that is. I am very happy with the Mazda B2500. As I mentioned though it is a much tamer animal in ways that the T2. And the rear end likes to go the opposite direction to the front end at times and it is not as free running as the T2. On the other hand the Mazda accelleration is lively and so far I prefer it off road. I also like that while it has all the controls that are needed they are simpler and more basic than the T2. But you would need to get rid of the stock rims and tyres, 205 x 70 x 16 that usually come on the B2500. Firstly, they don't look the part and secondly they dig in deep if you start to get stuck in mud. I got a set of 16 inch alloys from a scrap yard and some part used 245x70x16's and they stick out beyond the body of the pick-up and besides looking good keep me afloat a bit longer. Mine also seems to have been lifted at the back and I have found the extra ground clearance very handy off road. I use it a good bit when crossing fields to cut and carry timber. A trailer wouldn't work and the T2 was getting destroyed with muck, sawdust and twigs everywhere from stuffing the timber into it. I only need to hose out the back of the pickup to clean it. As I have the double cab version I have both a passanger vehicle and a work horse in one. The B2500 is the same as the Ford Ranger and you should see quite a few of them around. Bite the bullett and pay the extra toll on the bridge even if only to have the satisfaction of cheesing of the greens by having another 4x4 on the roads.

 

[lacroupade]

I wouldn't be considering cruise control or further tuning as I seldom get onto the motorway with the T2. There is not enough motorways around this part of the world to have a need for cruise control etc.
As to the Mazda and the Isuzu the constant advice I have heard is to avoid like the plague an Isuzu later than 99 as anything after that has "the bad engine". A friend had one and the engine did go in it. I have also heard that there may be difficulty in getting parts and supplies for off-road modification for the Isuzu but I don't know how valid a point that is. I am very happy with the Mazda B2500. As I mentioned though it is a much tamer animal in ways that the T2. And the rear end likes to go the opposite direction to the front end at times and it is not as free running as the T2. On the other hand the Mazda accelleration is lively and so far I prefer it off road. I also like that while it has all the controls that are needed they are simpler and more basic than the T2. But you would need to get rid of the stock rims and tyres, 205 x 70 x 16 that usually come on the B2500. Firstly, they don't look the part and secondly they dig in deep if you start to get stuck in mud. I got a set of 16 inch alloys from a scrap yard and some part used 245x70x16's and they stick out beyond the body of the pick-up and besides looking good keep me afloat a bit longer. Mine also seems to have been lifted at the back and I have found the extra ground clearance very handy off road. I use it a good bit when crossing fields to cut and carry timber. A trailer wouldn't work and the T2 was getting destroyed with muck, sawdust and twigs everywhere from stuffing the timber into it. I only need to hose out the back of the pickup to clean it. As I have the double cab version I have both a passanger vehicle and a work horse in one. The B2500 is the same as the Ford Ranger and you should see quite a few of them around. Bite the bullett and pay the extra toll on the bridge even if only to have the satisfaction of cheesing of the greens by having another 4x4 on the roads.

The last bit sold it LMAO!!!!

 

[danielj]

The last bit sold it LMAO!!!!

One further word of caution though, while the B2500 would seem ok for towing a load I don't think it would be any match for the T2 for pulling a heavy trailor or caravan. Also the B2500 is not ideal for long journeys and you may need to beef up the drivers seat with cushions and a back support. Seats are no way as comfortable as the T2 and it can be bouncy at times. Better with the wider wheels and a load up though. If I was going to be doing long journeys at motorway speeds pulling a load I would take the T2. I would recommend you take a test drive in a B2500 or Ford Ranger as you will notice a difference to the T2. The Mazda is an animal but the T2 is a beast.

 

[sperko]

What a bl@@dy good forum this is:thumb2
It looks like I shall be getting a terrano
neilk

Hiya mate Terrano he Now ya talkin and wellcome to the site:thumbs