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[darryl]

hi all I had issues with the starter motor last year ie would start 1 minute then not the next but silly as this may sound seemed to sort itself out then this morning well at morrisons could not get the car to start had to wait for a push just kept hearing the solenoid click. but when we got it started and with engine running I turned the key and you could hear the starter motor turning when engine was turned off theres nothing there again? any ideas thanks

 

[R1cho]

hi all I had issues with the starter motor last year ie would start 1 minute then not the next but silly as this may sound seemed to sort itself out then this morning well at morrisons could not get the car to start had to wait for a push just kept hearing the solenoid click. but when we got it started and with engine running I turned the key and you could hear the starter motor turning when engine was turned off theres nothing there again? any ideas thanks

sounds like you need a new starter

 

[darryl]

sounds like you need a new starter

thought so just rang auto stores depending on the make of starter motor minimum of £145+vat

 

[darryl]

so my next question is how much of a job is it to change?

 

[Banshee]

so my next question is how much of a job is it to change?

A nightmare!!!!!!! Best tackled via the drivers side wheel arch

I'd check the terminals and cable first before you 100% blame the starter, I thought I had a knackered starter before but then it turned out to be a knackered cable

 

[Fez_uk]

A nightmare!!!!!!! Best tackled via the drivers side wheel arch

I'd check the terminals and cable first before you 100% blame the starter, I thought I had a knackered starter before but then it turned out to be a knackered cable

Yep, it's a easy job if the engine area had more space. A ratchet spanner comes in very handy.

Also stress checking cables/connections, could have the same symptoms.

 

[darryl]

thanks will go and brave the weather and have a look:thumb2

 

[darryl]

just looked at cable battery end is tight solenoid end you can move side to side also where the cable trunking is screwed to the side of the block theres a little black wire which is quite loose to could this be the problem?

 

[Fez_uk]

It's the main 12v + feed (it's the thick cable) you need to check.

Tighten the solenoid bolt if it's loose.

 

[rustic]

just looked at cable battery end is tight solenoid end you can move side to side also where the cable trunking is screwed to the side of the block theres a little black wire which is quite loose to could this be the problem?

That is probably the power lead to the solenoid.
ALL cable connections should be tight enough so they don't move side to side.

Cleaning the terminals and cable ends will help, with a dab of vaseline on them as you assemble.


CAUTION if you are disconnecting wires that are live, and accidentally touch any other metal work, you could have serious problems.

Burning cables, exploding battery, etc. so any risk, disconnect battery first.

Rustic

 

[Banshee]

just looked at cable battery end is tight solenoid end you can move side to side also where the cable trunking is screwed to the side of the block theres a little black wire which is quite loose to could this be the problem?

Seems like you may have found your issue :thumb2

Tighten it all up and give it a bit of copper grease and try it then

 

[darryl]

It's the main 12v + feed (it's the thick cable) you need to check.

Tighten the solenoid bolt if it's loose.

the thick cable is the one I mean which is loose on the solenoid end it has a rubber cap thingy on it is this the right one:nenau

 

[Fez_uk]

Yep, should not be loose. Had it with mine, was loose and would start randomly.

 

[darryl]

tightened the solenoid nut up never had time to clean the connection will do tomorrow but still the same just a click at the solenoid and there seems to be another click like a relay or something seems to be coming from fuse box under bonnet but that's just a guess?

 

[Banshee]

tightened the solenoid nut up never had time to clean the connection will do tomorrow but still the same just a click at the solenoid and there seems to be another click like a relay or something seems to be coming from fuse box under bonnet but that's just a guess?

If all's good with the cables, then unfortunately it sounds like a dodgy starter to me mate :doh

I picked mine up for £76 exchange

 

[darryl]

If all's good with the cables, then unfortunately it sounds like a dodgy starter to me mate :doh

I picked mine up for £76 exchange

where did you get it from mate im doing Stafford on Saturday so passing by wednesbury

 

[R1cho]

i got one of the website for these guys and it was £10 cheaper iirc http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NISSAN-TE...rts_SM&fits=Model:Terrano&hash=item4d009752ca

 

[darryl]

i got one of the website for these guys and it was £10 cheaper iirc http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NISSAN-TE...rts_SM&fits=Model:Terrano&hash=item4d009752ca

I will give them a go thanks:thumb2

 

[Banshee]

where did you get it from mate im doing Stafford on Saturday so passing by wednesbury

Bulldog Car Spares in Tipton :thumb2

 

[AlexD333]

If it's the same as motorbikes (i dont know) i got shown a really good trick.

My bike starter motor was temperamental, so put it in gear and roll it forwards in gear till you feel the engine "catch" (resistance of engine) then try again, this can somehow engage the starter motor.

Someone may be along to tell me this wont work but worth a try if your stranded :nenau