F**king Renaults...

[Timbo_1975]

*rant*

Ok, so it is widely regarded that most Renaults are a BIG pile of nightmare, serious and often expensive problems in every area.....

Had to work on a friends Master 2.2dci today. The turbo had been replaced due to suspected blown seals (very common) as it had a tendancy to loose oil like the USA, smoke like a train, and have involuntary revvings to 5000+rpm.

Sadly this wasnt the case as it was still doing it. Infact it was a blown intake manifold gasket causing the problem. Now on this stupid french design the cam cover, intake manifold AND crankcase breather are all one and the same thing.

This is a 16v engine, but there are 8 intake ports- 4 where you would expect on the side, and 4 more between each injector on the top of the head:

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This is the underside of the cam cover showing the 4 top ports and the common rail injector holes along side:

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What happens is either the gasket blows or the manifold splits internally and boost pressure vents into the cam area, which then blows oil out through the breather and into the turbo.

If you are really unlucky the dipstick blows out and you loose all the oil, or the plastic cover itself lifts at the corners and blows out all the oil; result = seized engine. Thats if it doesnt self distruct from over revving first!!!!!

ive never seen such a ridiculously over complex and poorly executed design in my life!

PS the gasket kit is nearly £70!!!!!

*rant over*

 

[extreme-4x4]

i think the title covers my views on renault.... although the old 1.9 diesel engine was the mutz nutz

had a master .... gave up and lost big style

 

[tezzer]

what do you expect from the french, Citroen, peugeot, all as bad, i dont know why people buy the bl**dy things to be honest, i suppose theres good and bad in them all though, i never found the good parts though, lol:doh

 

[sidsid06]

i had a old renualt 5 and it went on for ever!!!! no probs at all

 

[tezzer]

i had a old renualt 5 and it went on for ever!!!! no probs at all

thats the model with the gear stick coming out from the dash iirc, my uncle had one and loved it, but it was new and a company car though.

 

[rayf3262]

Changing a buggered exhaust valve on a Renault 1700 petrol engine....
wet liners with paper seals at the bottom of the crankcase, only needs one fool to turn the engine with the head off...
short job became a long French nightmare......

 

[lacroupade]

I've got my daughters Y-plate Clio parked in my field with an incurable lumpy tickover/stalling problem (and a f*cked undercarriage since she kerbed it!) and an old K-plate automatic Clio with only 64k miles on it but some kind of sensor problem (I assume) that makes it stall soon as you stick it into drive.:doh

Piles of POO!!!

 

[danielj]

Had a renault Scenic for a while. It was a 1.6 petrol, with alloys and twin sunroofs. I liked it in many ways. But I had a good few problems with it. Window wipers had mind of their own despite getting them repaired and I never trusted the electrics. Fuel pump went. Sunroof used to leak. When an engine management light started to come on and go off I got rid of it. Traded it in against a T2.