cool intercooler debate!

[(RIP) PLANK]

Now here's some food for thought - or just complete nonsense, you decide!

Intercoolers are there to cool the air.

a fine spray of water with various addatives improves cooling

so how about using the air con system to cool the intercooler properly?


Thoughts!

Remember i'm not suggesting you do it, of planning to do it myself, i'm just asking the question.

 

[Timbo_1975]

It's ben done on a turbo'd jag straight 6. Robbed about as much power from the engine via the compressor as it gave in denser air.

Stick with a good front mount- its free.

 

[Adz]

& no disrespect to the select few that have played & are playing but i just think its a waste of time on a diesel for a start & a 4WD :nenau

Now on a performance petrol car :naughty then yes, play & mod away :sly but WHY on a diesel 4WD :doh

Apart from a induction kit / snorkel (for the off roader) / tunit for the later models i just dont see the point :nenau



& the best person on here for a FACT when it comes to performance is " Timbo_1975 " so listen & learn :bow :thumbs



I would confess to doing a front mount IF i didnt use it off road but that would be about it :thumbs

 

[extreme-4x4]

i looked into the air con into the intercooler, the theory works, but you loose power running the aircon. so not much profit in it.

wet intercoolers i have looked into and supposed to be very effective, but its more your speed trials thing rather than normal running

also looked at many other intercooler options ie front mount, raised out of the bonnet, side vented, and none really do the thing on a diesel off road or motorway. they all pro's and cons.

the best option i saw was the r3m set up . its placed behind the front bumper
low level and ducted to inside the front wheel arch. so the faster you go the more air gets pushed in from the front and sucked through by the wheel spinning . great set up and free cooling. bloody risky if using near water though. slightest air leak and your sucking water in .

something to work on in the future for me though

 

[Timbo_1975]

& the best person on here for a FACT when it comes to performance is " Timbo_1975 " so listen & learn.

Don't know about that, I am only speaking from good engineering practices and sound theory.

 

[briggie]

surely a supercharger would be a better option ?

 

[Adz]

Don't know about that, I am only speaking from good engineering practices and sound theory.

Dont sell ya self short M8 :nono

Ya advice is held in high regards by myself & makeitfit :thumbs

 

[R1cho]

surely a supercharger would be a better option ?

found one :doh

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Shorrock-Supe...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item230cab26d8

 

[Timbo_1975]

If you have a TDI, and a/c or cant be arsed with big plumbing- then convert the top mount to a charge cooler. Ally plate top and bottom, pump, 3/8 heater hose, small header tank and rad in the grille area. Jobs a good'un.

Charge temps always just acouple of c's above ambient, and MUCH greater resistance to heatsoacking under sustained boost say when towing or off roading where the top mount doesnt get much air.

I had afew years 'training' with M-sport and Pi working on the ford wrc engines. Often had a turbo zetec strapped down giving its absolute all for hours on end or til it popped. 500ft lbs of torque at 4000rpm from 2 litres of petrol power is the work of god!

 

[Adz]

I had afew years 'training' with M-sport and Pi working on the ford wrc engines. Often had a turbo zetec strapped down giving its absolute all for hours on end or til it popped. 500ft lbs of torque at 4000rpm from 2 litres of petrol power is the work of god!

That reminds me of the wiz kidz at Prodrive getting 243bhp with over 500ft lb tq with standard turbo
Asked if they could do it to mine :nenau
They said yes
I asked how much :augie
15k
They then said it needs a complete rebuild every 2500 miles
I said i'd think about it :augie No :lol
Bloody impressive though :bow

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

i was just thinking of the front mount intercooler argument - they get full of mud apparently. Bu they are better placed o get the benefit of cold air.

And surley they are no more likely to get full of mud than the radiator?

muddy intercooler - slightly reduced performance

muddy radiator - overheating and potential of knackered motor

+ surley the intercooler would keep the mus off the rad, and it would be less likely to get baked on?

We have a ford ranger (Mazda bt2500), that has a front mounted intercooler as standard.

 

[Deleted account DD]

i was just thinking of the front mount intercooler argument - they get full of mud apparently. Bu they are better placed o get the benefit of cold air.

And surley they are no more likely to get full of mud than the radiator?

muddy intercooler - slightly reduced performance

muddy radiator - overheating and potential of knackered motor

+ surley the intercooler would keep the mus off the rad, and it would be less likely to get baked on?

We have a ford ranger (Mazda bt2500), that has a front mounted intercooler as standard.

Mines got a large front mounted intercooler, it doesnt get any more dirty or muddy than a normal front mounted rad, however it does get "washed" out in the rain or the car wash :thumb2

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

Mines got a large front mounted intercooler, it doesnt get any more dirty or muddy than a normal front mounted rad, however it does get "washed" out in the rain or the car wash :thumb2

and as i said theoretically it will be cooler, as hot air rises so top mounting will be naturaly hotter, and it's right in the path off all the cold air!

 

[Deleted account DD]

and as i said theoretically it will be cooler, as hot air rises so top mounting will be naturaly hotter, and it's right in the path off all the cold air!

Go on modify it, you know you want to :augie

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

Davem i don't even wash mine - the closest i've come to modding it is a front tow bar and a new side light bulb :lol

 

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

so what of these i/c fans some speak of

do they really do anything, or is the power to run them
seen as loss from the charging system equalled out?

 

[extreme-4x4]

Davem i don't even wash mine - the closest i've come to modding it is a front tow bar and a new side light bulb :lol

so what was the purpose of the intercooler debate then ???

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

so what was the purpose of the intercooler debate then ???

to see if was a practical idea or not, damn it all, you dont expect me to do these things myself do you?:doh :lol

 

[lacroupade]

An excellent example of why Plankism should be an offence....
:jesterbg

 

[extreme-4x4]

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