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BIG-JOHN

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Ok guys my terrano's battery is on the way out my son had a new one fitted about 5yrs ago before I bought it off him, it is now I believe about knackered it still turns engine over but in winter it struggles can someone advise me on the correct amp battery to fit as regards to cold cranking ampage, oh and anybody got some idea where to get a good battery for reasonable money.

Cheers John.........
 
Ok guys my terrano's battery is on the way out my son had a new one fitted about 5yrs ago before I bought it off him, it is now I believe about knackered it still turns engine over but in winter it struggles can someone advise me on the correct amp battery to fit as regards to cold cranking ampage, oh and anybody got some idea where to get a good battery for reasonable money.

Cheers John.........

Have you tried charging it for 2 or more days (up to 5 if possible) using an 'intelligent' type charger (aldi do one for £13). Because these 'pulse charge' they can recover supposedly old or dud batteries. Mine is 4 3/4 years old (was on the car when I bought it) & would go flat if left for more than a few days. Now it withstands 2 weeks with no signs of trouble & recently started the car, with no hesitation, after a night in the open at -6degs: much to my pleasant surprise.
 
As it happens I do have one of those chargeres I will give it ago and in the meantime I will try to find one of those batteries plank suggested.

cheers

john
 
With the bad winter weather around the corner I would personally not muck about trying to recondition the battery. I'd just get another and then I'll know the car will start in a morning. 5 Years is not too bad an age for a battery, yes they can last longer. It really depends if you are prepared for the car to let you down again when it's cold.
 
tryed to find the Newmax battery could not find one so have a Varta G8 for £84.99 from thompsons Ltd coming.
as mine is on its way out.
Laurie ash:thumb2
 
FIve days of your life wasted waiting for a miracle that won't happen. Plank's spec is as good as your'e going to need. Target price would be £90 - £95. Just my opinon. David
 
I f you look to wards the end of my 'battery on it's way out' thread you will see a web address and contact details for (allegedly) the UK's largest mail order battery supplier. Mine came at a less than £100 delivered, I can't remember the exact figure now but you can call them for a quote :thumb2
 
Numax CVX 30 HMF

113AH and 1000 cca
I believe this to be the most powerful standard fit replacement!

From what I have read on the internet, Marine CCA and Automotive CCA are different.

1000 CCA on a marine battery equates to a much lower figure when compared to Automotive CCA which could be say 850 CCA. ( estimate for comparison purposes, as it depends on the construction and material of the battery)

The reason being that Automotive CCA is calculated at -18 C and Marine CCA is calculated at 0C. FROM what I have read...:nenau and there are a few dodgy sites out there..:augie

There may also be an issue with the amp hour rating when comparing, as they should be tested at a 20 hour rate, I am unsure at what rate the Marine batteries are tested at, but if it is over a longer period than 20 hours, then the current will be lower and the Ahr rate would be greater.

Would I consider this battery as a replacement for my 17 year old Maverick...:nenau



YES, TOO RIGHT I WOULD:thumb2:thumb2
Here's why...

There is a small drain on the Mav when sitting idle, and since I often use it for short journeys, then during the week the battery is slowly loosing the charge, so a starter battery is really unsuitable which can really only take a 10% discharge without doing serious damage to the life of the battery. I often do a float charge during the week, or for longer periods, and I use one of those 3 stage chargers.

A deeper discharge battery would be better for my application, and Marine batteries can take up to 50 % discharge without serious damage. They have fewer internal plates and larger spacing, than starter or automotive batteries.

However a full traction type battery will take an even deeper discharge, up to 80% discharge without serious damage. These would be better for cyclic use like trawling motors on boats, ie electric outboards.

So what do I know about this?:nenau
I own a boat and batteries come up all the time, they are often abused, left for long periods of time in a semi discharge state.
They often supply electric fridges, so are discharged regularly to 50%.

I hope my experience on this matter helps, backed up by some "information" found on the internet...:augie:augie

So do a google, have a look and see if you can confirm or contradict my findings please. :eek:


To estimate the charge condition of a battery, you have to measure the terminal voltage at no load, and having sat for some time, ie not just after a run.

I have seen several tables to show this, BUT it also depends on the ambient temperature, and not all tables show this, but basically if your resting battery voltage is showing 12.0 volts, it is in a discharged condition, and is sulphating up as you watch it.

If at 12.5 volts it is about 50% discharged, and automotive ie starter batteries are also becoming damaged and if over 12.8 volts then you are close to full charge.


See if you can find a suitable table based on ambient temperature, make a note, then buy a cheap multi meter and keep an eye on your battery.

Don't let a flat battery spoil your winter fun.:clap:clap:clap

Best regards,
Rustic
 
As above, but the latest test are over a longer 30 hour period and the Ah reflects this on a 20 hour test it would be markedly higher!

If you read my other thread, there are several T2 owners who use this battery and also use ti to power a winch and lots of extra lights etc. with no problems and have done so for a few years. I say 'this' battery but theirs is almost the same but needs a clamp fabricating as it is a slightly different model, with slightly lower performance! I also discovered that the CCA on this battery was tested under the new rules at -18 degrees C, so the cranking amps should be comparable :thumb2
 
ok fellas thanks for all your advice I think a new battery is on the cards now must go and hunt one down.

cheers john.....
 

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