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And people still voted the tories back in, I agree, it beggars belief at how stupid we are. I've worked with immigrants for over 7 years and have to say that some of the racist undertones here really are unwarranted and demostrate a high level of ignorance.

So demonstrate that it's nonsense with some nice facts and figures. You could always start with South Korea, Greece or even Germany and tell me why they have death rates significantly lower than UK. That'd be a great start. Link to the articles, I've got a bit of reading time at the moment.

ANZ6182 is one of over 100 international flights entering, at around the time I posted, the so called shut down USA. The boats were seen and the immigrants have been detained and more than likely being prepared for return. Immigrant have nothing to do with the spread of coronavirus. If you want...

Give me the numbers for these boatloads of illegal immigrants. Not refugees, I'm not interested in them, but illegal immigrants.

Sorry mate, I got as far as this paragraph and gave up reading, in two lines there are two glaring errors. We do not have boat loads of illegal immigrants coming into this country and secondly USA has an even more lax approach to lockdown than us and are nowhere near having a flight lockdown...

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the govt has done virtually nothing. The Chancellor has given us the furlough scheme, but ultimatey, us, the tax payer, will be paying for it (it's unlikely to be the billionaires or corporations who pick up the tab). The govt gave us lockdown (unless you...

Much like Rick's immunity, the nicotine claim would appear to be purely anecdotal. I found this while Googling "smoking cures covid-19" https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-on-smoking-and-covid-19 There are plenty of other scientific studies under that search which seem to agree with...

The Govt has been appalling in this respect, lie after lie after lie. The promise of 100k per day which changed to capacity for and now is booking for 50k. Hindsight doestn't come into it, we could see what was happening to other countries and chose the wrong path. I takes balls to admits to...

Which, of course, we still have. Except with fewer deaths because we've killed them all in the first wave.

Those numbers are both shocking and saddening. They are so much worse than should have been as we know that stricter lockdown, sooner and widespread testing would have significantly reduced them.

Dutch oven. Or one of these as iy already has the stove jack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWhAqI8RkGA

Have you seen my set up? AGM battery behind the rear seats connected through a split charger from the std alternator and starter battery. I run a fuse box off the second battery where I take the supply to whichever switch I want to use to run something off. I understand that AGM batteries don't...

Sweden and South Korea are at two very different stages of the curve. South Korea has been through the test and quarantine scenario, while Sweden has made the same mistake as us by not doing anything and will a) follow our curve and b) are about to go into total lockdown. If you can demonstrate...

I wouldn't be backing Trump, Rick. He certifiably bonkers. :freak3:

When do we get a "like" button? Take care of yourself Jim.

"Yeah, that's neat, innit?" he says. And he's not wrong. They are alright.

https://fullfact.org/europe/online-cost-brexit-net-contributions/ But it's not all all about money, we've lost Freedom oF Movementa and all the benefits that our younger generations can no longer have. Shameful. EDIT: This is a pointless discussion, I'm out.

What's his borrowing up to now? He's got the brexit disaster to pay for yet, too. Totally reckless.

Can we pay for the banks that we're bailing first before thinking about this?

Rick, our fishermen sold the fising rights years ago. Naff all to do with Brexit and everything to do with greed. https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/2019/03/07/fishing-brexit-uk-fleetwood/ EU has, on the otherhand, offered to treat us as being part of th EU for as long as necessary. We are not wothy.