Snorkle

iandouglas · 04-01-2009, 21:29

Looking at diflock site post on there about fitting snorkle to 300 tdi .what interested me was the i think watwr trap will try to post picture

extreme-4x4 · 04-01-2009, 22:43

all snorkels will suffer from water intake due to the amount of air sucked in even when the top is reversed.

you can do a water trap but that has to be to a sealed container that is vented to the highest point

sealed so as not to create a lower point of entry for water
vented to allow air to escape to allow unwanted water to enter catch tank

but normal air intake will let water in anyway

on second viewing it looks like he has incorporated a snorkel into the roll bar

dinky · 04-01-2009, 23:39

Looks too much of a bodge ,plenty on ebay do job better.wouldnt like that look on mine.

iandouglas · 04-01-2009, 23:54

the piece going down towards the ground i thought was water trap,but now looked again .it does look like a rool cage. clever bit of steel work.
rgds.iandouglas

extreme-4x4 · 05-01-2009, 00:56

to be honest if its incorporated into the roll cage i dont think he will have any problems with knocking it off . very clever.

i like the idea, if roll cages are your thing

(RIP) PLANK · 05-01-2009, 17:15

i think it only looks a bit rough as it isn't finished and the wing has yet to be put back on!

zippy656 · 05-01-2009, 18:18

time will tell im sure

but i think it will look good.

(RIP) PLANK · 05-01-2009, 18:45

I think the idea of building it into the roll cage is good but in practice i'm not convinced it seems like it would ruin the intergrity of the cage in an accident or at least wreck the snorkel rendering the car imobile? im not convinced.

Bu having said all that his/her fabricating skills look far beyond anything i could manage!

Terranosaurus · 05-01-2009, 19:00

MSA rollcage rules forbid you from passing anything inside the cage - theres probably a good reason for that.

MSA rollcage rulls also insist that the front stays either form a continous hoop (passing over te top of the windscreen) in their own right or a continous piece up to the joint with the main hoop - theres probably a good reason for that too.

MSA rules also don't allow bens made up of multiple pieces welded together - theres a reason for that too.

Looks to me like a typical piece of steering wheel substitute engineering - if you make it tough enough you don't have to steer cos you can drive through everything. If its purely a snorkel he's way over complicating matters and over engineering, if its meant to act as a rollcage too then rather him than me.

iandouglas · 05-01-2009, 20:55

hi the picture is from difflock site didnt know if it would be ok to publish the compleated truck on here without the owners permission .
the truck has been made into a trayback .and it looks prity well put together.
i still think the piece of tube going down off the snorkle could be a water trap .would it work if a tap or something was fitted at the bottom to drain any water away.
rgds,iandouglas

extreme-4x4 · 05-01-2009, 21:03

no cos it would suck water up and drown the engine (like a straw). i guess you could block the end off on the bit going down and put a drain off tap like on a compressor.
but you'd have to remember to empty it as and when needed

iandouglas · 05-01-2009, 21:53

iandouglas · 05-01-2009, 22:10

hi the two pictures are of a 300 tdi showing the outlet of the air intake and after repossioning and fitting of a 200 tdi air box. and B+Qs finest.
my thoughts have now turned to raising the original air intake by making a new opening in my 300 s airbox and refitting original air intake which would take same line as B+Qs conversion ,would you point it forwards or backwards ?
I can do this without removing wing so eventualy could fit a snorkle .
your thought coments .
thats askin for it in`t it
rgds.iandouglas
this could save me drowning it .

extreme-4x4 · 05-01-2009, 22:23

cost wise and the life of the snorkel , id go for a southdown snorkel...
just over a hundred quid

http://www.southdown4x4.co.uk/RaisedAirIntake.htm

04-01-2009, 21:29	#1
iandouglas Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NOTTINGHAMSHIRE Vehicle: LANDROVER Disco 300TDI Posts: 1,802	Snorkle Looking at diflock site post on there about fitting snorkle to 300 tdi .what interested me was the i think watwr trap will try to post picture Last edited by iandouglas; 04-01-2009 at 21:37.

04-01-2009, 23:54	#4
iandouglas Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NOTTINGHAMSHIRE Vehicle: LANDROVER Disco 300TDI Posts: 1,802	Snorkle the piece going down towards the ground i thought was water trap,but now looked again .it does look like a rool cage. clever bit of steel work. rgds.iandouglas

05-01-2009, 20:55	#10
iandouglas Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NOTTINGHAMSHIRE Vehicle: LANDROVER Disco 300TDI Posts: 1,802	Snorkle hi the picture is from difflock site didnt know if it would be ok to publish the compleated truck on here without the owners permission . the truck has been made into a trayback .and it looks prity well put together. i still think the piece of tube going down off the snorkle could be a water trap .would it work if a tap or something was fitted at the bottom to drain any water away. rgds,iandouglas

05-01-2009, 21:53	#12
iandouglas Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NOTTINGHAMSHIRE Vehicle: LANDROVER Disco 300TDI Posts: 1,802	Snorkle Last edited by iandouglas; 05-01-2009 at 22:00.

05-01-2009, 22:10	#13
iandouglas Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NOTTINGHAMSHIRE Vehicle: LANDROVER Disco 300TDI Posts: 1,802	Snorkle hi the two pictures are of a 300 tdi showing the outlet of the air intake and after repossioning and fitting of a 200 tdi air box. and B+Qs finest. my thoughts have now turned to raising the original air intake by making a new opening in my 300 s airbox and refitting original air intake which would take same line as B+Qs conversion ,would you point it forwards or backwards ? I can do this without removing wing so eventualy could fit a snorkle . your thought coments . thats askin for it in`t it rgds.iandouglas this could save me drowning it .

04-01-2009, 22:43	#2
extreme-4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WALES Posts: 6,295	all snorkels will suffer from water intake due to the amount of air sucked in even when the top is reversed. you can do a water trap but that has to be to a sealed container that is vented to the highest point sealed so as not to create a lower point of entry for water vented to allow air to escape to allow unwanted water to enter catch tank but normal air intake will let water in anyway on second viewing it looks like he has incorporated a snorkel into the roll bar

04-01-2009, 23:39	#3
dinky Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF SOUTH YORKSHIRE Vehicle: t20 lwb Posts: 1,238	Looks too much of a bodge ,plenty on ebay do job better.wouldnt like that look on mine.

05-01-2009, 00:56	#5
extreme-4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WALES Posts: 6,295	to be honest if its incorporated into the roll cage i dont think he will have any problems with knocking it off . very clever. i like the idea, if roll cages are your thing

05-01-2009, 17:15	#6
(RIP) PLANK Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central England, in the Heart of the Black Country Vehicle: T2 2004 TDI SE LWB Posts: 7,740	i think it only looks a bit rough as it isn't finished and the wing has yet to be put back on!

05-01-2009, 18:18	#7
zippy656 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Devizes Wiltshire Vehicle: Nissan Note Ntec 1.5 Posts: 14,137	time will tell im sure but i think it will look good.

05-01-2009, 18:45	#8
(RIP) PLANK Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central England, in the Heart of the Black Country Vehicle: T2 2004 TDI SE LWB Posts: 7,740	I think the idea of building it into the roll cage is good but in practice i'm not convinced it seems like it would ruin the intergrity of the cage in an accident or at least wreck the snorkel rendering the car imobile? im not convinced. Bu having said all that his/her fabricating skills look far beyond anything i could manage!

05-01-2009, 19:00	#9
Terranosaurus Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: YORKSHIRE Vehicle: 2001 2.7 TDi T2 SWB Posts: 4,077	MSA rollcage rules forbid you from passing anything inside the cage - theres probably a good reason for that. MSA rollcage rulls also insist that the front stays either form a continous hoop (passing over te top of the windscreen) in their own right or a continous piece up to the joint with the main hoop - theres probably a good reason for that too. MSA rules also don't allow bens made up of multiple pieces welded together - theres a reason for that too. Looks to me like a typical piece of steering wheel substitute engineering - if you make it tough enough you don't have to steer cos you can drive through everything. If its purely a snorkel he's way over complicating matters and over engineering, if its meant to act as a rollcage too then rather him than me.

05-01-2009, 21:03	#11
extreme-4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WALES Posts: 6,295	no cos it would suck water up and drown the engine (like a straw). i guess you could block the end off on the bit going down and put a drain off tap like on a compressor. but you'd have to remember to empty it as and when needed

05-01-2009, 22:23	#14
extreme-4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WALES Posts: 6,295	cost wise and the life of the snorkel , id go for a southdown snorkel... just over a hundred quid http://www.southdown4x4.co.uk/RaisedAirIntake.htm