Just been given this :D

Banshee · 02-04-2013, 23:20

Just need to learn how to use it now, I haven't the foggiest and don't even know if it works.

I know that I'm going to need to get me a welders mask to avoid getting the old welders flash and I know I need to get some MIG welding rods but whats the easiest thing to do to see if it works OK?

kitchenman · 02-04-2013, 23:26

Looks like an arc welder to me, good for burning holes in car bodies

R1cho · 02-04-2013, 23:28

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Originally Posted by kitchenman

Looks like an arc welder to me, good for burning holes in car bodies

yep is an arc welder, it says so on the top

Banshee · 02-04-2013, 23:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by R1cho

yep is an arc welder, it says so on the top

So what's it good for? No good for cars then?

solarman216 · 02-04-2013, 23:39

it is a stick welder, not MIG, it is good for 3 to 4 mm thick and up, no good for body work at all, as you get practised you will be able to weld 1.5 to 2 mm without blowing holes but lots of practice needed and also will depend on orientation, vertical a lot harder than horizontal, Rick

puddle hoppers inc. · 03-04-2013, 00:02

i was once told by a farmer....soak the sticks in water for a day and it will cut metal like a plasma oo aaar! never tried it, let me know tho yeh?

kitchenman · 03-04-2013, 02:49

I have an old Oxford in the workshop, I will give it a try at the weekend, but expect the coating to fall off before I even get to strike..

I guess if it stays on the steam will blast it everywhere so its big gloves and leather apron at least

Watch this space, I will do it outside and if it is interesting I will publish the video

stinka · 03-04-2013, 06:35

I have a beasty 30 yr old German 180w arc

I used it to make my rock sliders. I found it very easy to use.

The trick is having both hands free, so u need one of those self darkening masks off eBay, I'll grab a link to mine for ya

Buy some half decent rods too, makes loads of difference, and some quality gloves as you'll get close to the weld as you get to the bottom of the rod

stinka · 03-04-2013, 06:40

This is the one I got

http://bit.ly/SV7Cwx

stinka · 03-04-2013, 06:53

Also, get some of those magnetic welding clamps

And clean up ya metal first with white spirit, I also give it a little scrub with the edge of the grinder and put a v on 2 edges of a butt joint

jims-terrano · 03-04-2013, 09:10

As said a nice little arc welder, I have that my old man bought over 30 years ago (Jeez did I really say 30 years ago). Still works and does odd little jobs. Have to say I sussed out quite sometime ago that the rods need to be 100% dry or it doesn't strike properly just sticks to the metal. I now keep rods in an airing cupboard.

frosty · 03-04-2013, 09:39

A pal of mine use to use industrial stick welders for a living, he made doors for war ships and gave me some welding rods he told me to keep them dry ideally in a airing cupboard. I had a plastic pig [reliant 3 wheeler] he welded that with a stick welder with 1.6 rods, was very messy but did get it thru it's test. That was 30 years ago as well.

spiderpig37 · 03-04-2013, 12:59

Trick i use if my rods are damp is to turn amps up and when striking stick the end of the rod to a piece of metal until the rod heats up and smokes drys them out nice
Saying that on hobby welders itl trip out first

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02-04-2013, 23:39	#5
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	it is a stick welder, not MIG, it is good for 3 to 4 mm thick and up, no good for body work at all, as you get practised you will be able to weld 1.5 to 2 mm without blowing holes but lots of practice needed and also will depend on orientation, vertical a lot harder than horizontal, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

02-04-2013, 23:26	#2
kitchenman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Essex Wescliff Vehicle: maverick 1994 2.7 TD Posts: 1,278	Looks like an arc welder to me, good for burning holes in car bodies

03-04-2013, 00:02	#6
puddle hoppers inc. Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: west midlands Vehicle: terrano se 2.7 Posts: 1,041	i was once told by a farmer....soak the sticks in water for a day and it will cut metal like a plasma oo aaar! never tried it, let me know tho yeh?

03-04-2013, 02:49	#7
kitchenman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Essex Wescliff Vehicle: maverick 1994 2.7 TD Posts: 1,278	I have an old Oxford in the workshop, I will give it a try at the weekend, but expect the coating to fall off before I even get to strike.. I guess if it stays on the steam will blast it everywhere so its big gloves and leather apron at least Watch this space, I will do it outside and if it is interesting I will publish the video

03-04-2013, 06:35	#8
stinka Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Staffs Vehicle: '02 Terrano TDI sport lwb Posts: 3,787	I have a beasty 30 yr old German 180w arc I used it to make my rock sliders. I found it very easy to use. The trick is having both hands free, so u need one of those self darkening masks off eBay, I'll grab a link to mine for ya Buy some half decent rods too, makes loads of difference, and some quality gloves as you'll get close to the weld as you get to the bottom of the rod

03-04-2013, 06:40	#9
stinka Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Staffs Vehicle: '02 Terrano TDI sport lwb Posts: 3,787	This is the one I got http://bit.ly/SV7Cwx

03-04-2013, 06:53	#10
stinka Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Staffs Vehicle: '02 Terrano TDI sport lwb Posts: 3,787	Also, get some of those magnetic welding clamps And clean up ya metal first with white spirit, I also give it a little scrub with the edge of the grinder and put a v on 2 edges of a butt joint

03-04-2013, 09:10	#11
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	As said a nice little arc welder, I have that my old man bought over 30 years ago (Jeez did I really say 30 years ago). Still works and does odd little jobs. Have to say I sussed out quite sometime ago that the rods need to be 100% dry or it doesn't strike properly just sticks to the metal. I now keep rods in an airing cupboard.

03-04-2013, 09:39	#12
frosty Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Yorkshire Vehicle: 98 Ford Maverick 2.7 tdi Posts: 204	A pal of mine use to use industrial stick welders for a living, he made doors for war ships and gave me some welding rods he told me to keep them dry ideally in a airing cupboard. I had a plastic pig [reliant 3 wheeler] he welded that with a stick welder with 1.6 rods, was very messy but did get it thru it's test. That was 30 years ago as well.

03-04-2013, 12:59	#13
spiderpig37 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: doncaster south yorkshire Vehicle: nissan terrano t2+ Posts: 729	Trick i use if my rods are damp is to turn amps up and when striking stick the end of the rod to a piece of metal until the rod heats up and smokes drys them out nice Saying that on hobby welders itl trip out first