Mini filter needed

Terranical · 02-09-2012, 21:38

Does anyone have a fuel mini filter they don't need?
When attempting to remove mine to clean it I dropped the b****y thing and it has disappeared without trace. I'm currently running my T2 without one which I'm not happy about.
I'm in Spain (as is my Terrano) and would need it to be posted here. If anyone can help I would be extremely grateful.
Cheers
Bruce (Terranical)

stinka · 02-09-2012, 21:40

You don't need it, just leave it out. Early ones don't have them. Just change your fuel filter every 6 months

rustic · 02-09-2012, 21:59

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Originally Posted by stinka

You don't need it, just leave it out. Early ones don't have them. Just change your fuel filter every 6 months

How often should the fuel filter be changed then?

Every 6 months seems OTT !

stinka · 02-09-2012, 22:03

Well once every full/major service so every 12k or perhaps even as long as 24k

But being as he's in Spain, and the amount of dust and shit on the roads I suggested every 6 months if he's concerned

I have no mini filter in mine and I shall change my fuel filter once a year

Terranical · 02-09-2012, 22:08

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Originally Posted by stinka

You don't need it, just leave it out. Early ones don't have them. Just change your fuel filter every 6 months

My mini filter needs cleaning every 3 or 4 months (symptoms - poor acceleration, excessive black smoke), each time I take it out it's completely blocked, and this must be getting through the main fuel filter to end up in the mini filter.
What I don't want is all this c**p to end up in the diesel injection system, hence my urgent need for a replacement mini filter.

stinka · 02-09-2012, 22:23

In that case your tank must be rusting on the inside, unless you are buying contaminated fuel !

Drop the sender out and have a look in your tank for rust etc

solarman216 · 02-09-2012, 23:45

I have a TDi that I am preparing for off road fun, I do not know yet if it has still got the filter but I do not want it so if it is there I will gladly let you have it, I have yet to be convinced of the need for this thing, after all the fuel has gone through a paper filter much finer than the gauss mini thing, so where does this contamination come from? Rick

briggie · 03-09-2012, 07:51

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Originally Posted by solarman216

I have a TDi that I am preparing for off road fun, I do not know yet if it has still got the filter but I do not want it so if it is there I will gladly let you have it, I have yet to be convinced of the need for this thing, after all the fuel has gone through a paper filter much finer than the gauss mini thing, so where does this contamination come from? Rick

ive no idea either rick , but , judging by the amount of people that had clogged up ones , and then cleaned them to notice a vast improvement , i can only summise it must be doing something

davenclaire · 03-09-2012, 08:21

Im thinking the mini filter its self is the problem as rick says the fuel has passed threw the paper filter first. so my thinking is the mini filter is reacting with the deisel its self poss chemicals added to it..... these same chemical attach them selves to the mini filter and build up over time

think of it like scale building up in ur kettle.

Terranical · 03-09-2012, 08:55

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Originally Posted by solarman216

I have a TDi that I am preparing for off road fun, I do not know yet if it has still got the filter but I do not want it so if it is there I will gladly let you have it, I have yet to be convinced of the need for this thing, after all the fuel has gone through a paper filter much finer than the gauss mini thing, so where does this contamination come from? Rick

Thanks for that Rick, if you do have one would it be possible to send it to Spain? Obviously I would pay for the filter and postage costs and some extra to cover costs of taking it to the post office,plus something for your trouble.
The problem I have is that when I'm not in Spain my daughter uses my Terrano, and as she never has any money, runs it til it's running on fumes - any gunge in the tank then gets sucked up. I think that's why my filter gets blocked.

davenclaire · 03-09-2012, 11:32

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Originally Posted by Terranical

Thanks for that Rick, if you do have one would it be possible to send it to Spain? Obviously I would pay for the filter and postage costs and some extra to cover costs of taking it to the post office,plus something for your trouble.
The problem I have is that when I'm not in Spain my daughter uses my Terrano, and as she never has any money, runs it til it's running on fumes - any gunge in the tank then gets sucked up. I think that's why my filter gets blocked.

Gunge still wouldnt get threw the main paper filter thothey filter down to 5 micron but i understand your concern

Fez_uk · 03-09-2012, 11:51

newer terranos don't have them or the mavericks.

rustic · 03-09-2012, 12:06

I've never touched mine in 17 years

But I must admit I am tempting to whip it out and have a look see.

arcascomp · 03-09-2012, 14:54

Could the crud be down to corrosion of the pipes from main filter to pump on the inside?

or does the pump cause so much suction that it reduces the effectiveness of the main filters?

kitchenman · 03-09-2012, 17:26

When my mini filter was done under warranty the garage bloke said it was full of stuff like belly button fluff, could it be bits of fuel filter element?

02-09-2012, 21:38	#1
Terranical Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Resident in Bristol, Terrano in Spain Vehicle: 1994 Terrano 2.7TD SWB Posts: 1,398	Mini filter needed Does anyone have a fuel mini filter they don't need? When attempting to remove mine to clean it I dropped the b****y thing and it has disappeared without trace. I'm currently running my T2 without one which I'm not happy about. I'm in Spain (as is my Terrano) and would need it to be posted here. If anyone can help I would be extremely grateful. Cheers Bruce (Terranical)

02-09-2012, 23:45	#7
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,430	I have a TDi that I am preparing for off road fun, I do not know yet if it has still got the filter but I do not want it so if it is there I will gladly let you have it, I have yet to be convinced of the need for this thing, after all the fuel has gone through a paper filter much finer than the gauss mini thing, so where does this contamination come from? Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

03-09-2012, 12:06	#13
rustic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Staffordshire Vehicle: Maverick Mk I 2.7 TD LWB Posts: 7,825	I've never touched mine in 17 years But I must admit I am tempting to whip it out and have a look see. __________________ Ford Maverick GLX 1995 2.7TD LWB in illusion silver, 98k miles. Owned since new, for 22 years. Best car I have ever owned. Just wish I could drive it more.

02-09-2012, 21:40	#2
stinka Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Staffs Vehicle: '02 Terrano TDI sport lwb Posts: 3,787	You don't need it, just leave it out. Early ones don't have them. Just change your fuel filter every 6 months

02-09-2012, 22:03	#4
stinka Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Staffs Vehicle: '02 Terrano TDI sport lwb Posts: 3,787	Well once every full/major service so every 12k or perhaps even as long as 24k But being as he's in Spain, and the amount of dust and shit on the roads I suggested every 6 months if he's concerned I have no mini filter in mine and I shall change my fuel filter once a year

02-09-2012, 22:23	#6
stinka Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Staffs Vehicle: '02 Terrano TDI sport lwb Posts: 3,787	In that case your tank must be rusting on the inside, unless you are buying contaminated fuel ! Drop the sender out and have a look in your tank for rust etc

03-09-2012, 08:21	#9
davenclaire Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: south east Vehicle: terrano 2 lwb Posts: 816	Im thinking the mini filter its self is the problem as rick says the fuel has passed threw the paper filter first. so my thinking is the mini filter is reacting with the deisel its self poss chemicals added to it..... these same chemical attach them selves to the mini filter and build up over time think of it like scale building up in ur kettle.

03-09-2012, 11:51	#12
Fez_uk Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mid-Wales Vehicle: Maverick 2.7 - Patrol 4.2 Posts: 5,645	newer terranos don't have them or the mavericks.

03-09-2012, 14:54	#14
arcascomp Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Vehicle: 96 Mitsubishi Challenger! Posts: 775	Could the crud be down to corrosion of the pipes from main filter to pump on the inside? or does the pump cause so much suction that it reduces the effectiveness of the main filters?

03-09-2012, 17:26	#15
kitchenman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Essex Wescliff Vehicle: maverick 1994 2.7 TD Posts: 1,278	When my mini filter was done under warranty the garage bloke said it was full of stuff like belly button fluff, could it be bits of fuel filter element?