Welll that's me

[zippy656]

http://www.gassaferegister.co.uk/reg...ss&reload=true

[solarman216]

Zipps it comes up error timed out? I am sure you are on it but needs looking at, Rick

[zippy656]

Bigger..

Just shows me on gas safe site.

[solarman216]

Well done mate anyway, another string and all that, could tell you some stories when I was Corgi registered, I had some right old games with my yearly exam, Rick

[zippy656]

So tell!!

[rustic]

Congratulations, as Rick says, another string to your bow and all that, so will you be doing gas installations in caravans, or is this for an alternative career?

Sorry to bombard you with your first technical question but...
If I for example, want to replace a gas oven in my own home, and the oven has a bayonet type fitting, a sort of plug and play, do I need a gas safe engineer to do the installation?

I think the answer is yes I can, but I don't want to fall foul of any house insurance loop holes.

[terranosaurusdoug]

Originally Posted by rustic

Congratulations, as Rick says, another string to your bow and all that, so will you be doing gas installations in caravans, or is this for an alternative career?

Sorry to bombard you with your first technical question but...
If I for example, want to replace a gas oven in my own home, and the oven has a bayonet type fitting, a sort of plug and play, do I need a gas safe engineer to do the installation?

I think the answer is yes I can, but I don't want to fall foul of any house insurance loop holes.

Hiya rustic, to do any work on a gas appliance you have to be a "competent" person, definition of a competent person in the regs is someone who has had certain training, not necessarily gas safe registered, but only if it isnt for profit. Hope that makes sense , Mark.

[solarman216]

Originally Posted by zippy656

So tell!!

OK a couple of snippets, on one exam, he asked me at what pressure do I test new gas pipework, I told him honestly 100psi with no pressure drop for ten minutes, he was aghast and said something about bursting the pipe, I asked him what he thought the bursting pressure was of 22mm half hard copper pipe, he did not know and thought I was joking when I told him it was in excess of 2000psi, his next comment was but you could damage the meter regulator or the appliance, Er! I said we are testing pipe work not appliances, he said very little after, singed me off and left, a year or so later I took him for the test to an installation in Hastings, Glow Worm energy saver condensing boiler, this boiler had a high/low flame switch (selectable by the user) I fitted a stat to the return pipe set at 50 C wired that if over 50 C the boiler was switched to low flame/rate, he was again aghast saying I had illegally modified a boiler, I pointed out that I had merely automated what the user could do anyway, he was not happy and spent an hour on the phone to his bosses only to come back and sign me of and again and disappear with his head down, I love em, Rick

[Mobieus_uk]

Originally Posted by terranosaurusdoug

Hiya rustic, to do any work on a gas appliance you have to be a "competent" person, definition of a competent person in the regs is someone who has had certain training, not necessarily gas safe registered, but only if it isnt for profit. Hope that makes sense , Mark.

sorry but you are incorrect, you have to be gas safe registered to work on gas appliances, its as simple as that, there are no workarounds, anything else would be contravention of the gas safety act - its nothing to do with hire or reward, the only way you can prove that you are competent is by being on the approved register which is now known as the Gas Safe Register

The correct advice it to use a gas safe registered engineer

http://www.gassaferegister.co.uk/PDF...0appliance.pdf

[solarman216]

have to disagree to some extent, there is nothing in the regs to stop you working on your own appliances, you can even purchase and install your own boiler, the down side is that when you come to sell the property you will have no official paperwork, and you will not qualify for extended guarantees, but that is all, sale of goods act will still apply for the first year, Rick

[terranosaurusdoug]

Originally Posted by Mobieus_uk

sorry but you are incorrect, you have to be gas safe registered to work on gas appliances, its as simple as that, there are no workarounds, anything else would be contravention of the gas safety act - its nothing to do with hire or reward, the only way you can prove that you are competent is by being on the approved register which is now known as the Gas Safe Register

The correct advice it to use a gas safe registered engineer

http://www.gassaferegister.co.uk/PDF...0appliance.pdf

That might be out of date, check out gas safety installation and use 1998, L56 is the most recent revision, look at part B and see if you come to the same conclusion as me

[Mobieus_uk]

I'll stick with my original advice thanks, but agree that what a man does in his own home is down to him and there is nothing that can stop that

[Banshee]

Originally Posted by Mobieus_uk

I'll stick with my original advice thanks, but agree that what a man does in his own home is down to him and there is nothing that can stop that

Good on you, sick of rules and regs

[solarman216]

there are many more rules out there that that you could be taken to task with but nobody bothers for instance you are supposed to notify your water undertaking if you so much as change a tap, or replace a WC the list is endless, Rick

[terranosaurusdoug]

Originally Posted by solarman216

there are many more rules out there that that you could be taken to task with but nobody bothers for instance you are supposed to notify your water undertaking if you so much as change a tap, or replace a WC the list is endless, Rick

Latest one from gas safe is no white part of flue to be showing externally, because the powder coating used is not UV resistant and could degrade, crack, and let the elements get at the metal underneath causing it to rot, which will happen, if the boiler lasts long enough (it won't) for it to be exposed that long.

I don't like white part of flue showing cos it looks a t**t, but it came in handy sometimes to get clearance under eaves etc.