Pls Help! Towing weight woes!! - Page 8

briggie · 29-12-2010, 22:36

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Originally Posted by daved

works.

Not sure what youre saying

He's made a good effort plus a disclaimer to describe it

it says 1700 kg max towing weight ( unbraked ) ... id love to know where got his info from .... looks about right too if you think of 2000kg for the 3 litre

lacroupade · 29-12-2010, 23:12

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Originally Posted by briggie

it says 1700 kg max towing weight ( unbraked ) ... id love to know where got his info from .... looks about right too if you think of 2000kg for the 3 litre

Ummmm....the VIN plate mayhaps? Have you been asleep this entire thread?LOL

briggie · 29-12-2010, 23:15

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Originally Posted by lacroupade

Ummmm....the VIN plate mayhaps? Have you been asleep this entire thread?LOL

is it christmas yet

Thomas-the-Terrano2 · 30-12-2010, 09:24

well after 8 odd pages, think what ever the maths is the groos train is fact.

and the box and horses are going to exceed that combined with the unladen
or kerb weight i found for the auto of 1900 odd kg.

go get 'em.

i still cant believe that nissan down rated the gross train, to reduce the
max trailer, suppose atleast didnt down rate vechicle's gross...

nor can i believe that they built the auto with chocolate slush box when
in therory an auto is better for towing, though clearly not at max loads...

seems would be rough if needed auto on grounds of disability then found
couldnt use it for a purpose/living, forgivable on a fiesta but on what is
classed a utility/truck by many, down right embarrassing, wonder what
part bin nissan got it out of.

sure the autos in green ovals have same tow weights, and defender
upwards thats 3500 but hey after all this dont quote me.

macabethiel · 30-12-2010, 09:57

In my experience automatics are brilliant for towing and they often have limitations on them due to the increased load on the ATF. (Auto Transmission Fluid)

Back in the 1970,s the fix was to add an extra oil cooler to the transmission unit with a Kenlow type fan on it. With modern Synthetic ATF I would have thought this was a reasonable proposition and would not break the bank costwise.

If most of the time you are not towing anything this might be an option worth exploring.

Deleted account DD · 30-12-2010, 10:36

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Originally Posted by Thomas-the-Terrano2

sure the autos in green ovals have same tow weights, and defender
upwards thats 3500 but hey after all this dont quote me.

youre spot on as far as I am aware

dont know them model by model but theres generally little or no difference on a lot of the bigger beefier 4x4s manual vs auto box. Mine is auto and has a properly matched auto box that still clocks in for a 3 1/2 tonne tow.

I still reckon the auto box on the Terrano was a Nisan faux pas when they thought they could market it to the urban posers who couldnt spell "tow rating" rather than someone who was going to work the truck hard

Deleted account DD · 30-12-2010, 10:49

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Originally Posted by macabethiel

In my experience automatics are brilliant for towing and they often have limitations on them due to the increased load on the ATF. (Auto Transmission Fluid)

Back in the 1970,s the fix was to add an extra oil cooler to the transmission unit with a Kenlow type fan on it. With modern Synthetic ATF I would have thought this was a reasonable proposition and would not break the bank costwise.

If most of the time you are not towing anything this might be an option worth exploring.

Yes I remember the extra oil coolers.We had Granadas & Consuls in the 70's.They needed them.

When i got my auto I made enquiries along those lines and the answer was theyre common place as standard now and no need to consider anything extra unless youre heading out into the desert

Deleted account DD · 30-12-2010, 10:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by briggie

it says 1700 kg max towing weight ( unbraked ) ... id love to know where got his info from .... looks about right too if you think of 2000kg for the 3 litre

ahhh with you

Quote:

Originally Posted by lacroupade

Ummmm....the VIN plate mayhaps? Have you been asleep this entire thread?LOL

lacroupade · 30-12-2010, 12:13

ah apologies Briggie, missed the 'unbraked' quote...yes, one for W-ankers Corner I think!

Thomas-the-Terrano2 · 31-12-2010, 00:15

whats this unbraked 1700, surely braked 1700, unbraked 750 is legal max.

even on c1 trucks, mind dont know how heavy those hand controlled
rollers are, rollers must be full of helium? whilst being towed on their
little trailers, no brakes, rarely a secondary coupling, how the hell they
reverse 'em when so much narrower than the truck i'll never know.

(RIP) PLANK · 31-12-2010, 00:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas-the-Terrano2

whats this unbraked 1700, surely braked 1700, unbraked 750 is legal max.

even on c1 trucks, mind dont know how heavy those hand controlled
rollers are, rollers must be full of helium? whilst being towed on their
little trailers, no brakes, rarely a secondary coupling, how the hell they
reverse 'em when so much narrower than the truck i'll never know.

i've often wondered that too!

I checked my data plate today, manual, definately 2800k!

briggie · 31-12-2010, 00:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by lacroupade

ah apologies Briggie, missed the 'unbraked' quote...yes, one for W-ankers Corner I think!

my apology actually , the 1700 says braked , i missread it

MudLifeCrisis · 31-12-2010, 02:08

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Originally Posted by cm2581

. And quoting the Sale of Goods Act 1979 (as advised by Consumer Direct) and let then know I am holding them in breach of contract as the goods are not fit for the purpose made known at the time of sale

I said that :O)

Amazing what you pick up after 12 years selling cars

Good luck to you

lacroupade · 31-12-2010, 12:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by briggie

it says 1700 kg max towing weight ( unbraked ) ... id love to know where got his info from .... looks about right too if you think of 2000kg for the 3 litre

I think we are both suffering from visual dyslexia

Deleted account DD · 31-12-2010, 16:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by lacroupade

I think we are both suffering from visual dyslexia

Some one else said it was an age thing

30-12-2010, 09:24	#109
Thomas-the-Terrano2 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hackenthorpe Sheffield Vehicle: Terrano2 R20 lwb 2.7TDi Posts: 5,234	well after 8 odd pages, think what ever the maths is the groos train is fact. and the box and horses are going to exceed that combined with the unladen or kerb weight i found for the auto of 1900 odd kg. go get 'em. i still cant believe that nissan down rated the gross train, to reduce the max trailer, suppose atleast didnt down rate vechicle's gross... nor can i believe that they built the auto with chocolate slush box when in therory an auto is better for towing, though clearly not at max loads... seems would be rough if needed auto on grounds of disability then found couldnt use it for a purpose/living, forgivable on a fiesta but on what is classed a utility/truck by many, down right embarrassing, wonder what part bin nissan got it out of. sure the autos in green ovals have same tow weights, and defender upwards thats 3500 but hey after all this dont quote me. __________________ M6YTB / 20YTB '60' 2010 Ford C Max Zetec 1.6i, black '56' 2006 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0TD, silver 2021 Bailey Pegasus Grade SE Turin caravan Smile, its more likely to confuse. One Life, Don't Just Live It, Drive a Nissan, or ...... a Jeep. Owner of Nissan 4x4s 2005 to 2019, and maybe in the future too!

30-12-2010, 09:57	#110
macabethiel Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Derby Vehicle: Freelander & Jeep GC 3.0 Posts: 4,416	Automatics and towing In my experience automatics are brilliant for towing and they often have limitations on them due to the increased load on the ATF. (Auto Transmission Fluid) Back in the 1970,s the fix was to add an extra oil cooler to the transmission unit with a Kenlow type fan on it. With modern Synthetic ATF I would have thought this was a reasonable proposition and would not break the bank costwise. If most of the time you are not towing anything this might be an option worth exploring.

31-12-2010, 00:15	#115
Thomas-the-Terrano2 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hackenthorpe Sheffield Vehicle: Terrano2 R20 lwb 2.7TDi Posts: 5,234	whats this unbraked 1700, surely braked 1700, unbraked 750 is legal max. even on c1 trucks, mind dont know how heavy those hand controlled rollers are, rollers must be full of helium? whilst being towed on their little trailers, no brakes, rarely a secondary coupling, how the hell they reverse 'em when so much narrower than the truck i'll never know. __________________ M6YTB / 20YTB '60' 2010 Ford C Max Zetec 1.6i, black '56' 2006 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0TD, silver 2021 Bailey Pegasus Grade SE Turin caravan Smile, its more likely to confuse. One Life, Don't Just Live It, Drive a Nissan, or ...... a Jeep. Owner of Nissan 4x4s 2005 to 2019, and maybe in the future too!

30-12-2010, 12:13	#114
lacroupade Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: All hail to the Glove of Love... Posts: 9,212	ah apologies Briggie, missed the 'unbraked' quote...yes, one for W-ankers Corner I think!