T2 - what next? - Page 6

MudLifeCrisis · 05-07-2013, 21:46

Had mine for a year now , can't fault apart from suspension a bit 'slow' but different shocks will cure that when they need replacing. My 05 plate is £280 tax they go up after that.Strong Merc lump good fuel solo and towing (compared to Mav

) big armchair on wheels :-)

Brian

Thomas-the-Terrano2 · 05-07-2013, 21:48

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Terracan

2.9 td and 3.5 petrol, auto and manual

2.9 doesnt list on wiki but another page suggests its a merc unit crdi, common rail?

Kia did a 2.9 crdi, shared korean tech?

same engine in kia sedona the big mpv.

2.9 was td then crdi depends on age.

looks like a belt as google engine and cam belt loads of results...

Thomas-the-Terrano2 · 05-07-2013, 21:52

cheers MLC was about to put a call out for you and then we've posted together.

MudLifeCrisis · 05-07-2013, 21:55

Bigger lump in facelift (square fogs) timing chain not belt dealer told me. Definitely common rail

Thomas-the-Terrano2 · 05-07-2013, 21:58

Wonder if would get a thread about Nissans on the Hyundai OC?

http://www.4x4overlandtravel.com/t60...sked-questions

MudLifeCrisis · 05-07-2013, 22:02

you keep beating me with these links .

macabethiel · 05-07-2013, 22:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by MudLifeCrisis

Had mine for a year now , can't fault apart from suspension a bit 'slow' but different shocks will cure that when they need replacing. My 05 plate is £280 tax they go up after that.Strong Merc lump good fuel solo and towing (compared to Mav

) big armchair on wheels :-)

Brian

If its a Merc engine then it must have chain driven camshaft as Merc do not do belts.

Presumably yours is a later engine ?

Is it coil spring suspension ?

Does it have a centre diff lock as well as switchable 4WD ?

I have read a few posts about fuel pump issues and rear LSD diff issues.

MudLifeCrisis · 05-07-2013, 22:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by macabethiel

If its a Merc engine then it must have chain driven camshaft as Merc do not do belts.

Presumably yours is a later engine ?

Is it coil spring suspension ?

Does it have a centre diff lock as well as switchable 4WD ?

I have read a few posts about fuel pump issues and rear LSD diff issues.

Yes mine is later engine, chain driven. Suspension set up same as Maverick / Terrano , coils on back torsion bars on front. 2H 4H 4L not sure about centre diff , no switch for it unless it does it itself

You can read faults about ever car on the interweb

MudLifeCrisis · 05-07-2013, 23:24

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walshie · 06-07-2013, 08:05

I'd been trying to work out what the successor to the T2 could be for a while, Hyundai terrecan and Kia sorento stood out out as most similar to the no frills good value 4x4 capability of the t2, but can I also put forward the shogun Lwb? Prices seem to be coming down now and reliability ratings always seem good.

One thing I have noticed about later 4x4s after 2002 when the car tax rules changed to emissions based, is that for some models which are borderline £225/450 (or whatever the exact figures are now) is that sometimes the autos can be in the top bracket and the manuals in the next one down - worth checking before ruling models out purely on their tax bracket!

The other thing is to definitely consider the annual mileage, if you're doing average miles or above then mpg does count, but 10k or less and the savings become less and less significant. When you factor in the cheaper purchase price of some 'guzzlers' it would take many many years to break even against the pricey 'economical' cars out there.

Case in point, my boss bought a new fiat bravo, 1.6diesel , 30quid a year road tax, and 65mpg he said. But.....it cost a lot to buy new, and was depreciating by more than his monthly payment on it! Whereas me in my trusty T2, bought and paid for paying £240 tax and 35mpg was driving round in 7seat comfort, safety and with a smile on my face, whilst he was still more out of pocket and driving a paper bag!

Apologies for the essay! Overall, my advice, put all the costs including purchase price and annual milage in a single spreadsheet over the planned time to own the car and only look at the bottom line, the results are very surprising!

Thomas-the-Terrano2 · 06-07-2013, 08:22

spot on walshie, sort of like phrase knowing price of everything but value of nothing.

plus the newer vehicles are more complex, to repair and service, the T2 is a classic,
bullet proof 2.7 etc, why not try to keep 'em rolling, could pick up a late 05/06 MY truck
as a write off and put bits onto an older one. Not suggesting ringing, just renewing
as you go, something landy owners been doing for ever.

Lazy-Ferret · 14-07-2013, 21:57

How about one of these???

http://beforeitsnews.com/motor-junki...2-2471544.html

http://www.eurocarblog.com/post/4733...ketch-released

05-07-2013, 21:48	#77
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05-07-2013, 21:52	#78
Thomas-the-Terrano2 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hackenthorpe Sheffield Vehicle: Terrano2 R20 lwb 2.7TDi Posts: 5,234	cheers MLC was about to put a call out for you and then we've posted together. __________________ M6YTB / 20YTB '60' 2010 Ford C Max Zetec 1.6i, black '56' 2006 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0TD, silver 2021 Bailey Pegasus Grade SE Turin caravan Smile, its more likely to confuse. One Life, Don't Just Live It, Drive a Nissan, or ...... a Jeep. Owner of Nissan 4x4s 2005 to 2019, and maybe in the future too!

05-07-2013, 21:58	#80
Thomas-the-Terrano2 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hackenthorpe Sheffield Vehicle: Terrano2 R20 lwb 2.7TDi Posts: 5,234	some gen Wonder if would get a thread about Nissans on the Hyundai OC? http://www.4x4overlandtravel.com/t60...sked-questions __________________ M6YTB / 20YTB '60' 2010 Ford C Max Zetec 1.6i, black '56' 2006 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0TD, silver 2021 Bailey Pegasus Grade SE Turin caravan Smile, its more likely to confuse. One Life, Don't Just Live It, Drive a Nissan, or ...... a Jeep. Owner of Nissan 4x4s 2005 to 2019, and maybe in the future too!

06-07-2013, 08:22	#86
Thomas-the-Terrano2 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hackenthorpe Sheffield Vehicle: Terrano2 R20 lwb 2.7TDi Posts: 5,234	spot on walshie, sort of like phrase knowing price of everything but value of nothing. plus the newer vehicles are more complex, to repair and service, the T2 is a classic, bullet proof 2.7 etc, why not try to keep 'em rolling, could pick up a late 05/06 MY truck as a write off and put bits onto an older one. Not suggesting ringing, just renewing as you go, something landy owners been doing for ever. __________________ M6YTB / 20YTB '60' 2010 Ford C Max Zetec 1.6i, black '56' 2006 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0TD, silver 2021 Bailey Pegasus Grade SE Turin caravan Smile, its more likely to confuse. One Life, Don't Just Live It, Drive a Nissan, or ...... a Jeep. Owner of Nissan 4x4s 2005 to 2019, and maybe in the future too!

05-07-2013, 21:46	#76
MudLifeCrisis Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: St Albans Herts Vehicle: 1997 Mav 2.7tdi lwb Posts: 1,377	Had mine for a year now , can't fault apart from suspension a bit 'slow' but different shocks will cure that when they need replacing. My 05 plate is £280 tax they go up after that.Strong Merc lump good fuel solo and towing (compared to Mav ) big armchair on wheels :-) Brian

05-07-2013, 21:55	#79
MudLifeCrisis Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: St Albans Herts Vehicle: 1997 Mav 2.7tdi lwb Posts: 1,377	Bigger lump in facelift (square fogs) timing chain not belt dealer told me. Definitely common rail

05-07-2013, 22:02	#81
MudLifeCrisis Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: St Albans Herts Vehicle: 1997 Mav 2.7tdi lwb Posts: 1,377	you keep beating me with these links .

06-07-2013, 08:05	#85
walshie Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: High Wycombe Vehicle: Nissan Terrano 3.0di Posts: 165	I'd been trying to work out what the successor to the T2 could be for a while, Hyundai terrecan and Kia sorento stood out out as most similar to the no frills good value 4x4 capability of the t2, but can I also put forward the shogun Lwb? Prices seem to be coming down now and reliability ratings always seem good. One thing I have noticed about later 4x4s after 2002 when the car tax rules changed to emissions based, is that for some models which are borderline £225/450 (or whatever the exact figures are now) is that sometimes the autos can be in the top bracket and the manuals in the next one down - worth checking before ruling models out purely on their tax bracket! The other thing is to definitely consider the annual mileage, if you're doing average miles or above then mpg does count, but 10k or less and the savings become less and less significant. When you factor in the cheaper purchase price of some 'guzzlers' it would take many many years to break even against the pricey 'economical' cars out there. Case in point, my boss bought a new fiat bravo, 1.6diesel , 30quid a year road tax, and 65mpg he said. But.....it cost a lot to buy new, and was depreciating by more than his monthly payment on it! Whereas me in my trusty T2, bought and paid for paying £240 tax and 35mpg was driving round in 7seat comfort, safety and with a smile on my face, whilst he was still more out of pocket and driving a paper bag! Apologies for the essay! Overall, my advice, put all the costs including purchase price and annual milage in a single spreadsheet over the planned time to own the car and only look at the bottom line, the results are very surprising!

14-07-2013, 21:57	#87
Lazy-Ferret Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Sevenoaks, Kent Vehicle: Terrano 2.7TDi SE Touring Posts: 5,221	How about one of these??? http://beforeitsnews.com/motor-junki...2-2471544.html http://www.eurocarblog.com/post/4733...ketch-released