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Old 05-02-2011, 00:56   #76
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can i go to bed now and leave you two love birds at it , or do you need some help ?
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did you stay on until just after midnight to prove youre not a pumpkin
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why do I always miss the excitement?
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Old 05-02-2011, 16:00   #83
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I think - if the law says give them the vote, then give it to them - it's no bloody use to them anyway, never does any of is on the outside any good, does it? I have never seen any political manifesto that included a 'be nice to murderers day' so what would they get out of it? Answer - nothing.

as for the compo, a big 'NO WAY' - so now it is legal to use veg oil without paying tax - should we give compo to all those who were done for it before the law changed?

Think of all the laws that have changed over the years, we don't have retrospective prosecutions for anything, do we?
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I think - if the law says give them the vote
Point is, the law doesnt say give em the vote.

Not UK law.
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wow, a hole in the fabric of the space/time continuum....

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Not quite, its actually in our laws that convicted prisoners will not have the vote. Stazibourg is saying they should, They have not. So its not in OUR laws
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eu law over rules uk law so it is the law!
 
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eu law over rules uk lawso it is the law!
Not always, in a test case it CAN take primacy. We are still a sovereign state.

EU law was enshrined to protect the wider population. It meant you could expect the same treatment wherever you went. It was not meant to replace practical and reasonable laws in participating states.

Hence the challenge and the fact that our no vote law has to date been up held
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Point is, the law doesnt say give em the vote.

Not UK law.
'IF' it's a big little word mate and it is now pretty much a forgone conclusion

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...irst-time.html


OK then look at it this way - i vote, give them the vote, that is about as meaningful as any vote any prisoner will ever cast!

Giving them compo for this is ridiculous, could all women who were paid less than men (in the same job) before the law changed get compensated for that? -Answer : NO

Or all the drunk drivers who were told to go home and sleep it off, before that law changed, were they rounded up and prosecuted after wards? - NO

the list goes on - if we must let them vote (and i believe it would do no real harm) let them. There should be limits on this, and even make their vote count in their home constituency only, to save wards with large prisons in their midst being swamped by prisoner votes. BUT NO COMPO!

But as always - how true is the story we are discussing
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i think labour signed it onto the statute books therefore it overules uk sovereign law,this test case has come about becuase politicians have realised it makes them look bad,but thats what they get for not thinking things through properely!
 
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