What Are Xtrails Like?

[firebobby]

The only problem with later metal is the road tax...£400 ish

[jims-terrano]

Originally Posted by rustic

I was thinking of the Skoda Yeti 4x4, looks aren't everything.

Or VW tiguan next car has to do close to 50 mpg on a run, 4x4 for winter, we don't really need the high towing capacity of the Mav.

Easy and cheap to fix... I guess that really rules out both of the above.

Terrano it is then Rustic for you

Love both those two motors but they are just out of my price range really.

[jims-terrano]

Originally Posted by rayf3262

Audi A4 platform,.. not too much wrong with that. Avoid the dual mass flywheel issue and go for a DSG transmission.

What's DSG and how do I know it has or hasn't got it?

[rustic]

Originally Posted by jims-terrano

What's DSG and how do I know it has or hasn't got it?

I didn't know either, I found this..


The DSG dual-clutch gearbox, available in 6-speed and 7-speed versions, is unlike a conventional automatic transmission. Two independent gearboxes are connected under load to the engine in turn, depending on the current gear, via two drive shafts. An output shaft assigned to each gearbox applies the torque to the driven wheels via the differential gear. Clutches and gearboxes are operated hydraulically by the gearbox mechatronics (a combination of mechanics and electronics). The electronic transmission control unit, sensors and hydraulic control unit form one compact unit. The control unit uses information such as engine speed, road speed, accelerator position and driving mode to select the optimum gear and to determine the ideal shift point. The control unit then implements the shift commands in a sequence of precisely co-ordinated actions. Each change takes less than four-hundredths of a second. DSG can be used manually, via the Tiptronic gearlever or the optional paddle shifts.

[rayf3262]

DSG combines the fuel economy of a manual transmission with the ease of an auto.
DSG transmissions are optionally fitted to just about every vehicle in the VAG range, including some of the commercial vehicles.

[rustic]

Originally Posted by rayf3262

DSG combines the fuel economy of a manual transmission with the ease of an auto.
DSG transmissions are optionally fitted to just about every vehicle in the VAG range, including some of the commercial vehicles.

Sounds like something very expensive to repair if it goes wrong, and very expensive to diagnose what needs doing.

With injectors each costing £600 and requiring programming into the ECU by the main dealers for some modern vehicles, it does make you think where modern cars are going

When will the time come that the bonnet of a car is sealed for life, and there is a little compartment you open with caps to fill with the appropriate liquid when told to do so by the onboard computer.

[jims-terrano]

Some of the Reno's have sealed gearboxes, they don't need topping up?

[firebobby]

Originally Posted by rayf3262

DSG combines the fuel economy of a manual transmission with the ease of an auto.
DSG transmissions are optionally fitted to just about every vehicle in the VAG range, including some of the commercial vehicles.

I know 3 people who have VW Transporters with this box and all have had major issues...engine and box out to sort out bearing issues in the box.

They were all low mileage and still under warranty, so didn't cost the owners.

[Peasgood1]

I have an Xtrail.
In my couple of months ownership I have done both front wheel bearings. This is at the professional end of DIY as a press is needed, luckily I have one or I would have had to pay for it to be done. Not a fun job anyway as various bits are seized in place.

Now I cured those noises two more have appeared. One sounds like possible seized caliper or hopefully a bent splash shield (I can guess which is more likely)
The other noise is possibly damaged cam, no oil pressure or something even more horrid.

The idea of getting the car instead of a replacement Terrano was that the better fuel economy would make me more inclined to go places at the weekend.
Turns out my weekends are taken up with fixing the damned thing instead!

Don't buy one.

[Bedhead1157]

Originally Posted by rayf3262

DSG combines the fuel economy of a manual transmission with the ease of an auto.
DSG transmissions are optionally fitted to just about every vehicle in the VAG range, including some of the commercial vehicles.

The local big taxi firm has Octavias with DSG's as their depot cars. Of the ones I've been in, most were good, but a few were jerky as hell on the change.

I know the Citygo has an autobox that is just a computer controlled clutch and manual box, those are never a good job in any make of vehicle, the clutches always come out cooked.

[jims-terrano]

Well we aint in a hurry to do anything at the moment, probably wait until Easter before doing much about the car. What ever the happens the Xtrail is out. I like the practical side of the Roomster and economy.

I've had my opinion confirmed that modern cars are crap without exception. The only way to run modern cars is to lease or buy brand new and dump when warranty runs out.

Still like the Terrano but trying to be realistic about it.

[rustic]

Originally Posted by jims-terrano

...I've had my opinion confirmed that modern cars are crap without exception. The only way to run modern cars is to lease or buy brand new and dump when warranty runs out...

My thoughts exactly.
It explains why I still have my Mav

I can't think of any modern car that I would still have or even want, in 10 years time, let alone 18...

[jims-terrano]

I also reckon that newer Terrano's are rust buckets which is a crying shame

[jims-terrano]

Originally Posted by jims-terrano

I also reckon that newer Terrano's are rust buckets which is a crying shame

OH BUGGER!!!!!! I just seen a T2 with 60k on it and it's lovely

And her in doors likes the look of it too

Got all week for somebody else to buy it as we can't go and see it until next weekend

[AlexD333]

Originally Posted by jims-terrano

I also reckon that newer Terrano's are rust buckets which is a crying shame

Mines a 2004 and quite clean. Think you just need to find one thats been used in town