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The already owned Pajero 8 40.00%
The Terrano which i think just needs hubs 12 60.00%
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Old 20-12-2010, 00:38   #46
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thats what i am thinking any way

still trying to talk my self out of aussie lockers
Well if it does fuel up THEN you'll have a power house
I'm trying to get 300 squid spare without the wife finding it so I can get my LOKKA for the front of mine.
It'll be the mutts then
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Old 20-12-2010, 00:41   #47
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Just read the start of this thread , OOPS
I say keep the Paj. till after crimbo then flog it.
1000 is too much for a 94 terrano me thionks
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Old 20-12-2010, 00:47   #48
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Well if it does fuel up THEN you'll have a power house
I'm trying to get 300 squid spare without the wife finding it so I can get my LOKKA for the front of mine.
It'll be the mutts then
it will fuel up just soem screws at the back to screw in lol

have to drop the twin egr valves tho

just got a price on a 2.5" power flow with fre flow silencer £280
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Old 20-12-2010, 00:48   #49
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Just read the start of this thread , OOPS
I say keep the Paj. till after crimbo then flog it.
1000 is too much for a 94 terrano me thionks








I'll make me mind up tomorrow
Do the turbo 1st thing, then get 24hrs insurance cover on the Pajero then go have a look i suppose
Be spur of the moment as normal with me
If it is a mint 1 & its only the hubs then i think i will swap
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Old 20-12-2010, 00:58   #50
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adz, i cant see why you would want to swap your pajero for the maverick, mavs not in the same league mate.
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Old 20-12-2010, 06:40   #51
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something a bit left field
stick a turbo on dirty frog flog the paj you hinted after a 90 how about bobtailing a three door series one disco with the 200tdi you then get the 100 inch chassis and a lot more comfort than a 90. Whilst youve got the back cut off chnge the sills for 3 inch box sections and youve got some nice rock sliders.
dont know what its like down your way but 90/110 tend to get nicked all the time up here
cheers Andy
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Old 20-12-2010, 09:50   #52
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WOOOHHHOOOOO

Dirty frog lives - my son will be over the moon he loves the dirty frog.

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ps Adz upto date piccies please as the last time he see it was @ the services in Brentwood when u fitted the flashy sidelights
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Old 20-12-2010, 14:04   #53
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WOOOHHHOOOOO

Dirty frog lives - my son will be over the moon he loves the dirty frog.

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ps Adz upto date piccies please as the last time he see it was @ the services in Brentwood when u fitted the flashy sidelights

I'll get some up after Crimbo

The Pajero after driving it all of 3 miles from me mates garage to me mum & dads is most certainly NOT going anywhere Its bloody lovely to drive & wont see any mud until it fails an mot badly which will be a long way off
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Old 20-12-2010, 15:20   #54
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already put a link up

horn has 133bhp with 294nm of torq

you link is for the ls version mine is the lotus se
http://www.cars-directory.net/specs/.../1995_6/13544/
the site you quote puts my tdi ad 130 hp (so maybe a different calculation as its a non Uk site?) SO lets assume they are both accurate you have 3 HP advantage a lot more body weight and lousy hadling, I'll still give you a race

I'm with Dave D i have owned a lot of troopers, and i used to love the old 2.8 (which odly is the same output power as the standard 3.1) but gave up after the disapointing 3.1's and the dissasterous 3.0 ended my love of Isuzu.

DaveD - I htink the Lotus thing was an exchange, Lotus used an Isuzu engine (from the Piazza Turbo I think) for one of their models at the time. I think it was a technology exchange. But to be honest in every day driving of the two models I couldn't tell any real difference. Bear in mind we had them a fe years back when they were newer and with less miles so closer to the way they cam out of the factory.
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Old 20-12-2010, 16:39   #55
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the site you quote puts my tdi ad 130 hp (so maybe a different calculation as its a non Uk site?) SO lets assume they are both accurate you have 3 HP advantage a lot more body weight and lousy hadling, I'll still give you a race

I'm with Dave D i have owned a lot of troopers, and i used to love the old 2.8 (which odly is the same output power as the standard 3.1) but gave up after the disapointing 3.1's and the dissasterous 3.0 ended my love of Isuzu.

DaveD - I htink the Lotus thing was an exchange, Lotus used an Isuzu engine (from the Piazza Turbo I think) for one of their models at the time. I think it was a technology exchange. But to be honest in every day driving of the two models I couldn't tell any real difference. Bear in mind we had them a fe years back when they were newer and with less miles so closer to the way they cam out of the factory.
just had a look at the mistrel (guess thats the one you was looking at) 130bhp at 4000 rpm
mines 133 at 3000rpm

also bear in mind the mistrel is more powerful than the english version like for like
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just had a look at the mistrel (guess thats the one you was looking at) 130bhp at 4000 rpm
mines 133 at 3000rpm

also bear in mind the mistrel is more powerful than the english version like for like
no mate i found a 2.7 tdi terrano, but bare inmind the mistrals were all TD and were (when you drove them) slower than a manual T2, Mine is a TDI so if they ae rating a TD mistral at 130 then mine would - by there calculations- be over 156 bhp. I think they have and odd way of calculating this. I found an English site that rates mine at 126, (which i beleive they are) and your Bighorn at 125, so either way ther ain't much int it!

As for the weight, there are some od things going on with Izuzu weight classes (as published) When taking of road modded troopers for MOT we used to have to get them tested on a weigh bridge to sort out the breaking efficiancy as the published figures are way out and can lead to brake failure (MOT wise) when they are in fact perfectly allright - this mostly affected the back brakes on Troopers with oversized tyres.

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no mate i found a 2.7 tdi terrano, but bare inmind the mistrals were all TD and were (when you drove them) slower than a manual T2, Mine is a TDI so if they ae rating a TD mistral at 130 then mine would - by there calculations- be over 156 bhp. I think they have and odd way of calculating this. I found an English site that rates mine at 126, (which i beleive they are) and your Bighorn at 125, so either way ther ain't much int it!

As for the weight, there are some od things going on with Izuzu weight classes (as published) When taking of road modded troopers for MOT we used to have to get them tested on a weigh bridge to sort out the breaking efficiancy as the published figures are way out and can lead to brake failure (MOT wise) when they are in fact perfectly allright - this mostly affected the back brakes on Troopers with oversized tyres.
according to that site they have a tdi version of the mistrel only made from 97-99
http://specs.cars-directory.net/niss...e_X_19138.html

i cant find any uk sites with the bighorn se power specs i can find the trooper but they didnt do an se, only duty and citation (which is the irish spec with a spoiler)

i think its due to all the extras they have so their is odd weights etc

i find it strange that i have 3 different brake units with the rears having disks and drums extra to spend lol

the mistrel is quicker than the td manual top end wise also the td version had a 100bhp over the 98 of the uk spec ones

also i think the mistrel is slightly heavier then the uk spec

i will stand up and say in the wet the mav was more fun with the back end loosing grip when you wanted it to havnt been able to do the same in mine, but the horn is a nice comfy place to sit compared to my mav as they were both the same age, the newer ones may have been better equipped i dont know

age for age the horn is a little more advanced than the 95 mav/t2, just a shame they let GM play with the 3.0 as it did have the makings of a good engine, but the injectors mashed the whole thing up from leaking diesel into the oil making the engine go bang to the failure of said injectors in some cases under 10,000 miles was a real poor show from isuzu.

but isuzu will still take in the old one time and time again to repair the damage

in one case isuzu has given a new engine to one even when they had the recall done due to injector failure and that was one of the earlier ones
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no mate i found a 2.7 tdi terrano, but bare inmind the mistrals were all TD and were (when you drove them) slower than a manual T2, Mine is a TDI so if they ae rating a TD mistral at 130 then mine would - by there calculations- be over 156 bhp. I think they have and odd way of calculating this. I found an English site that rates mine at 126, (which i beleive they are) and your Bighorn at 125, so either way ther ain't much int it!

As for the weight, there are some od things going on with Izuzu weight classes (as published) When taking of road modded troopers for MOT we used to have to get them tested on a weigh bridge to sort out the breaking efficiancy as the published figures are way out and can lead to brake failure (MOT wise) when they are in fact perfectly allright - this mostly affected the back brakes on Troopers with oversized tyres.
also the ones at the terrano is the Terrano 2.7DT R3m not the uk spec ones as these are the imports as well
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according to that site they have a tdi version of the mistrel only made from 97-99
http://specs.cars-directory.net/niss...e_X_19138.html

i cant find any uk sites with the bighorn se power specs i can find the trooper but they didnt do an se, only duty and citation (which is the irish spec with a spoiler)

i think its due to all the extras they have so their is odd weights etc

i find it strange that i have 3 different brake units with the rears having disks and drums extra to spend lol

the mistrel is quicker than the td manual top end wise also the td version had a 100bhp over the 98 of the uk spec ones

also i think the mistrel is slightly heavier then the uk spec

i will stand up and say in the wet the mav was more fun with the back end loosing grip when you wanted it to havnt been able to do the same in mine, but the horn is a nice comfy place to sit compared to my mav as they were both the same age, the newer ones may have been better equipped i dont know

age for age the horn is a little more advanced than the 95 mav/t2, just a shame they let GM play with the 3.0 as it did have the makings of a good engine, but the injectors mashed the whole thing up from leaking diesel into the oil making the engine go bang to the failure of said injectors in some cases under 10,000 miles was a real poor show from isuzu.

but isuzu will still take in the old one time and time again to repair the damage

in one case isuzu has given a new engine to one even when they had the recall done due to injector failure and that was one of the earlier ones
yakkerman has a tdi mistral
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so i htink we can safely say you have never owned or driven a Mistral?

or a TDI T2?


rest my case!

your Troper may be streets ahead of your TD t2 for the same age, but to me they have a feeling of fadded grandure, shabby chique of you like. The feeling of a seedy old Authur Daley jag to smoke your cigar in and feel like your doing well. Where as the TDI T2 does feel youg and alert and nippy, and driving the two - the T2 feels like a GTI - and the Trooper (as i said) like wallowing old jag. but that's based on ownership and experience not web site reviews.

by the way does yours have a rear LSD as most of them didn't and the back brakes (as you say) are a pain!
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