i met rick today - Page 3

solarman216 · 25-10-2010, 13:14

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Originally Posted by extreme-4x4

what about a nice stream . i was thinking you could use the electric bit off a generator throw the engine away and run a drive shaft to a wheel turned by water ????

an old 5kw genny would give me a few lights wont it ?

Next time you are down you will have to have a look at my water wheel, you missed it last time, it is 10 ft diameter and drives an old land rover gear box backwards (set in low) then it drives some pulleys and belts to get the speed up to 300 rpm for the permanent magnet alternator on the end, works great when we have some rain, Rick

lacroupade · 25-10-2010, 23:53

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Originally Posted by solarman216

No need as red derv is 55 p ltr at the mo, but the 1975 twin air cooled Lister runs on 50/50 derv/old engine oil when I have it, Rick

Never occurred to me before Rick, but I'm guessing that a registered smallholding ought to be eligible to use red diesel?

solarman216 · 26-10-2010, 00:09

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Originally Posted by lacroupade

Never occurred to me before Rick, but I'm guessing that a registered smallholding ought to be eligible to use red diesel?

Do not see a problem, as long as it is used for Heating/Power generation perfectly legit, but don't buy it in 45 gallon drums, you need a tank and purchase 1000 ltrs at a time, but there is no official checking, when I bought my first load the driver was only interested in the quality of the tank and cos we are near a stream was it bunded (which of course it was) I might add that although most oil CH systems run on kerosene most boilers can run Derv (gas oil) with little modification so any oil household can have red derv in their tanks, Rick

lacroupade · 26-10-2010, 08:47

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Originally Posted by solarman216

Do not see a problem, as long as it is used for Heating/Power generation perfectly legit, but don't buy it in 45 gallon drums, you need a tank and purchase 1000 ltrs at a time, but there is no official checking, when I bought my first load the driver was only interested in the quality of the tank and cos we are near a stream was it bunded (which of course it was) I might add that although most oil CH systems run on kerosene most boilers can run Derv (gas oil) with little modification so any oil household can have red derv in their tanks, Rick

Tank not a problem...but wondering what cost benefit is with heating? Heating oil seems to be around the same price as red diesel so by the time you've paid to have your boiler modded and connected your red diesel tank to your system you're out of pocket surely?

briggie · 26-10-2010, 09:03

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Originally Posted by lacroupade

Tank not a problem...but wondering what cost benefit is with heating? Heating oil seems to be around the same price as red diesel so by the time you've paid to have your boiler modded and connected your red diesel tank to your system you're out of pocket surely?

ITS A GREAT SET UP HE HAS THERE , IM GUESSING OLD ENGINE OIL IS FREE , PERHAPS GARAGES MIGHT EVEN PAY RICK TO " DISPOSE " OF IT

kbekl · 26-10-2010, 09:09

its nice to see people like rick all self sufficient

great bloke and helpful and very knowledgeable about a manner of things

he could always put an add in the paper or on local board and speak to garages might get a bit of differnt types of oil could always ask local chipshops

extreme-4x4 · 26-10-2010, 13:33

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Originally Posted by lacroupade

Tank not a problem...but wondering what cost benefit is with heating? Heating oil seems to be around the same price as red diesel so by the time you've paid to have your boiler modded and connected your red diesel tank to your system you're out of pocket surely?

mine runs on red or kerro

depending on whats available

solarman216 · 26-10-2010, 23:50

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Originally Posted by lacroupade

Tank not a problem...but wondering what cost benefit is with heating? Heating oil seems to be around the same price as red diesel so by the time you've paid to have your boiler modded and connected your red diesel tank to your system you're out of pocket surely?

A new jet and an air adjustment on most oil boilers, same tank, the point is once you have a tank full of the red stuff what you do with it is ??????????????? Rick

lacroupade · 27-10-2010, 00:09

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Originally Posted by solarman216

A new jet and an air adjustment on most oil boilers, same tank, the point is once you have a tank full of the red stuff what you do with it is ??????????????? Rick

get your drift Rick but Wales isn't the smartest part of the country to be doing that unfortunately.......

solarman216 · 27-10-2010, 20:59

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Originally Posted by lacroupade

get your drift Rick but Wales isn't the smartest part of the country to be doing that unfortunately.......

Understood, but if you have other derv fueled machinery it could be useful, Rick

solarman216 · 27-10-2010, 21:04

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Originally Posted by extreme-4x4

mine runs on red or kerro

depending on whats available

Now you are not talking about a diesel engine are you, cos at the pressures these run at a very short pump life can be expected on kerro, over 2000 psi as opposed to 100 psi on a boiler, Rick

extreme-4x4 · 28-10-2010, 10:23

no the boiler, it works with red with no adjustment. i find it very slightly better than kerro.

done a few tests cos im poor and on 25 litres it was lasting up to 5 days where kerro would last 4-4.5 days.

but obviously loads of possible causes ie
tank weeping
temp
usage (baths etc)

but without being too fussy i preferred it, although the water people prob prefer kerro with me living by a stream diesel is much harder to clean up than kerro

26-10-2010, 09:09	#36
kbekl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Manchester Vehicle: Ford Maverick 2.7 LWB GLX Posts: 1,519	its nice to see people like rick all self sufficient great bloke and helpful and very knowledgeable about a manner of things he could always put an add in the paper or on local board and speak to garages might get a bit of differnt types of oil could always ask local chipshops

28-10-2010, 10:23	#42
extreme-4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WALES Posts: 6,295	no the boiler, it works with red with no adjustment. i find it very slightly better than kerro. done a few tests cos im poor and on 25 litres it was lasting up to 5 days where kerro would last 4-4.5 days. but obviously loads of possible causes ie tank weeping temp usage (baths etc) but without being too fussy i preferred it, although the water people prob prefer kerro with me living by a stream diesel is much harder to clean up than kerro