auto hubs........ i know i had to say it - Page 3

extreme-4x4 · 06-02-2009, 22:06

took them apart as per download and went a bit further to remove brake rings etc. cleaned all and greased.

the truck wobbles and pulls to the left but the left side looked good
now i can see the pics and understand

however the right side looked like it had water in it at some point and some rust the big drum with cog's in inside the auto hub didn't move as free and i could not get it to lock-unlock position when dismantled...i could with the left

to be honest i think its dead or dieing fast its back together but no better

manuals i think or try the breakers
shame all the rings etc are good its that drum that seems seized

willow · 06-02-2009, 22:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by extreme-4x4

took them apart as per download and went a bit further to remove brake rings etc. cleaned all and greased.

the truck wobbles and pulls to the left but the left side looked good
now i can see the pics and understand

however the right side looked like it had water in it at some point and some rust the big drum with cog's in inside the auto hub didn't move as free and i could not get it to lock-unlock position when dismantled...i could with the left

to be honest i think its dead or dieing fast its back together but no better

manuals i think or try the breakers
shame all the rings etc are good its that drum that seems seized

Yep manuals are good

simple easy to fit and replace

extreme-4x4 · 06-02-2009, 22:18

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Originally Posted by willow

Yep manuals are good

simple easy to fit and replace

yeah but its the cost, the mav owes me 340.00 quid and i want to get it to 0 spending out on manuals will ruin my plan for free motoring

i paid 850.00 and sold loads a bits off it so it owes me very little

not a happy bunny

willow · 06-02-2009, 22:28

Well uhmmm
rebuild both sides and you really need to do that to make i work.
I wasted a good new hub kit because i didnt.
If you have new working against old it will break.or sieze

i wish I lived closer I would pop my old autos round so you could use them
the new kit is still ok.
Good luck
well at least you won the photo comp

jims-terrano · 06-02-2009, 22:58

Wendy, don't forget he aint got Turkey's to barter with

Jim T

willow · 06-02-2009, 23:29

O yes Jim I for got about that

It was well worth the money though its paying us back now done loads of work for us and now getting sam to work too

extreme-4x4 · 08-02-2009, 19:29

ok i have put makitfits auto's on today and its still no better...
it still feels like its triping over itself or running on egg shaped wheels.

so what else could it be ...???

really need help now

zippy656 · 08-02-2009, 19:47

have you lifted the front up? if so ive read some where on here you might hve gone a bit to high. the CV joints could be hiting its self with the angle beeing a little to much.

Zippy

extreme-4x4 · 08-02-2009, 19:53

no its not that zips... well i dont think so.

that was bluebulls post i beleive

zippy656 · 08-02-2009, 19:55

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Originally Posted by extreme-4x4

no its not that zips... well i dont think so.

that was bluebulls post i beleive

yep, just read it tonight..

oh well, just trying to get away from my normal drivel.. i DID help some new member early withthe s AT switch..

extreme-4x4 · 09-02-2009, 18:54

still got the problem in 4wd the stearing is all ok and ive changed the auto hubs but its pulling from side to side and feels like its tripping over its front wheels..

could it be the diff oil needs changing ?
or
replace the brake rings etc on the auto hubs ?

this is all i can think it is its not like its loose its like its just swiching drive wheels really quickly and very often

come on guys throw some ideas at me

jims-terrano · 09-02-2009, 20:24

I've heard in the past that old oil in the transfer box thickens at low temps. The solution to that is suposed to be replace with Synthetic. Surely can't be a bad idea to change the transfer box oil if you don't know it's history.

Jim T

Toolbox · 09-02-2009, 20:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by extreme-4x4

still got the problem in 4wd the stearing is all ok and ive changed the auto hubs but its pulling from side to side and feels like its tripping over its front wheels..

could it be the diff oil needs changing ?
or
replace the brake rings etc on the auto hubs ?

this is all i can think it is its not like its loose its like its just swiching drive wheels really quickly and very often

come on guys throw some ideas at me

Are your back an front tyres all the same size? ie not different makes, or worn lower on one axle. (The same rolling radius)

extreme-4x4 · 09-02-2009, 21:46

yes all matching tires in size make and model,

one thing i have noticed if you take it easy up to 30mph in 4wd its not too noticeable or bad, but if you give it welly in 4wd its all over the place

jims-terrano · 09-02-2009, 21:51

If you jack it up and grab the wheel top and bottom and then each side and shake is there any movement in either plane? Not sure how you would test it but what about CV joints or UJ's.

Jim T

06-02-2009, 22:06	#31
extreme-4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WALES Posts: 6,295	took them apart as per download and went a bit further to remove brake rings etc. cleaned all and greased. the truck wobbles and pulls to the left but the left side looked good now i can see the pics and understand however the right side looked like it had water in it at some point and some rust the big drum with cog's in inside the auto hub didn't move as free and i could not get it to lock-unlock position when dismantled...i could with the left to be honest i think its dead or dieing fast its back together but no better manuals i think or try the breakers shame all the rings etc are good its that drum that seems seized

06-02-2009, 22:28	#34
willow Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Norfolk East Vehicle: terrano11 1995 TD Posts: 1,955	Well uhmmm rebuild both sides and you really need to do that to make i work. I wasted a good new hub kit because i didnt. If you have new working against old it will break.or sieze i wish I lived closer I would pop my old autos round so you could use them the new kit is still ok. Good luck well at least you won the photo comp

06-02-2009, 22:58	#35
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	Wendy, don't forget he aint got Turkey's to barter with Jim T

06-02-2009, 23:29	#36
willow Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Norfolk East Vehicle: terrano11 1995 TD Posts: 1,955	O yes Jim I for got about that It was well worth the money though its paying us back now done loads of work for us and now getting sam to work too

08-02-2009, 19:29	#37
extreme-4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WALES Posts: 6,295	ok i have put makitfits auto's on today and its still no better... it still feels like its triping over itself or running on egg shaped wheels. so what else could it be ...??? really need help now

08-02-2009, 19:47	#38
zippy656 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Devizes Wiltshire Vehicle: Nissan Note Ntec 1.5 Posts: 14,137	have you lifted the front up? if so ive read some where on here you might hve gone a bit to high. the CV joints could be hiting its self with the angle beeing a little to much. Zippy

08-02-2009, 19:53	#39
extreme-4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WALES Posts: 6,295	no its not that zips... well i dont think so. that was bluebulls post i beleive

09-02-2009, 18:54	#41
extreme-4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WALES Posts: 6,295	still got the problem in 4wd the stearing is all ok and ive changed the auto hubs but its pulling from side to side and feels like its tripping over its front wheels.. could it be the diff oil needs changing ? or replace the brake rings etc on the auto hubs ? this is all i can think it is its not like its loose its like its just swiching drive wheels really quickly and very often come on guys throw some ideas at me

09-02-2009, 20:24	#42
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	I've heard in the past that old oil in the transfer box thickens at low temps. The solution to that is suposed to be replace with Synthetic. Surely can't be a bad idea to change the transfer box oil if you don't know it's history. Jim T

09-02-2009, 21:46	#44
extreme-4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WALES Posts: 6,295	yes all matching tires in size make and model, one thing i have noticed if you take it easy up to 30mph in 4wd its not too noticeable or bad, but if you give it welly in 4wd its all over the place

09-02-2009, 21:51	#45
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	If you jack it up and grab the wheel top and bottom and then each side and shake is there any movement in either plane? Not sure how you would test it but what about CV joints or UJ's. Jim T