road tax - Page 3

mully · 14-03-2008, 09:50

Just been surfing it looks as if my 2001 Terrano (emits 263kg) car tax will be band M from 2009 costing me £440 rising to £445 for 2010-2011, cant seem to locate anything for cars registered before March 2001.

harajack · 14-03-2008, 14:16

£185 for pre-march 2001(over 1549cc)

(RIP) PLANK · 14-03-2008, 16:46

up intil now comercials have been exempt, ie crew cabs etc. does anyone know if this has changed?

thor · 14-03-2008, 17:12

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...le/DG_10012524

have a look 8O

(RIP) PLANK · 14-03-2008, 17:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by thor

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524

have a look 8O

just looked but it appears this reffers to the tax system as it stands today rather than after the proposed changes

bigjim · 15-03-2008, 17:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by supertaff

Well that explains it then ..... If your truck was pre- 2001 the road tax would be a little cheaper than a post 2001.

That's about the long and the short of it pre 2001 on the old tax system post 2001 on the emissions system so us poor folks with ols clapped out 4x4's dont get affected as much

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JonathanM · 15-03-2008, 18:35

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/consume...8&in_page_id=5

I'm not sure what will happen to pre 2001 vehicles, as I don't think they had officially recorded CO2 emissions, therefore couldn't be suitably classified.

sooner we loose the scots from running england, the better. Its all very well having devolution for Scotland, Wales, & Northern ireland, but currently the bulk of the population (living in england) are loosing out funding the decisions being made by the devolved states that rely on central funding. Free prescriptions in wales, better public service pay deals for two spring to mind.

next thing you know the devolved states will probably have their own car tax systems, at a lower rate than england, but with central govt paying for road improveemnts etc.

This isn't being racist, stateist, or aythign else-ist. Just annoyed that wales et al have their own decision maiing processes in the interests of those living there, while in england our decisions are effectively controlled by an unelected scottish prime minister, representing a scottish seat. How just.

(RIP) PLANK · 15-03-2008, 21:33

what about no tuition fees for students in Scotland yet English students attending a scottish university have to pay, but not visa versa?

I agree it has all gone pear shaped, we allow so many millions of imigrants and then complain there in not enough housing and too many cars on the road!

what an earth is going on, I for one have had much more than enough!

But in real terms what can we do? voting is no answer, I think a mass abstention from voting would be more efectrive in the long term as the goverment would loose legitimacy.

but thats a long term answer

what can we do about things right now?

they have us over a barell, we cant afford to drive to protests, high property prices mean going on strike would leave mortgaes unpaid etc etc.

JonathanM · 15-03-2008, 21:38

Any govt has got us over a barrell, but surely a change at the top - with a PM elected by the population - would allow a review of some of the less popular decisions made by the current govt.

As far as road tax, so long as I can afford to pay it, I'll run my wagon - anyone who tries any "green" rubbish my way will get short shrift - I'm paying more tax for the priveldge!!!!

supertaff · 15-03-2008, 21:40

What makes you think we actually want a "Government of Wales"?
The first "Democratic" decission that the Welsh assembly actually made when they came into office was to award themselves an 8% payrise !!
I'm afraid that politicians, regardless of where in Britain or which party, have become "Don't do as I do, but do as I say" Merchants.
Are our politicians riding around in Nissan Micra's to save the environment ? or sitting in second class carriages on train journeys to save the poor taxpayer some cash, or flying on chartered flights ?
Look how they buy second homes in London, and expect us to furnish them and pay for their upkeep .... Give them Council flats, and charge them full rent !!
Had my little rant .... Blood pressure returning to normal ....pulse steadying !"!
Matt.

JonathanM · 15-03-2008, 21:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by supertaff

What makes you think we actually want a "Government of Wales"?
The first "Democratic" decission that the Welsh assembly actually made when they came into office was to award themselves an 8% payrise !!
I'm afraid that politicians, regardless of where in Britain or which party, have become "Don't do as I do, but do as I say" Merchants.
Are our politicians riding around in Nissan Micra's to save the environment ? or sitting in second class carriages on train journeys to save the poor taxpayer some cash, or flying on chartered flights ?
Look how they buy second homes in London, and expect us to furnish them and pay for their upkeep .... Give them Council flats, and charge them full rent !!
Had my little rant .... Blood pressure returning to normal ....pulse steadying !"!
Matt.

Matt, I'm not aganst the population living in Wales (except when it comes to rugby......) but the current political situation is producing inequalities - agree with you that politicians are all cast from the same mould.

15-03-2008, 22:20

Ok,
Trying not to let my blood pressure pop reading some of these comments, but is it any wonder scotland and wales wanted to go it alone after there industries being either privitised or closed down mainly by a english parliment.

Gas/electricity/hospitals/royal mail/bt everyone has been turned over by a goverment at some time still not happy about who's in power ask a miner or there communtiy.

Did i hear any englsh people shouting about an english pm ensuring that all raidoactive waste from power stations and other sites be brought to central & north scotland so as not to upset her voting public even although these convoys where running unmarked and through villages and towns past primary schools always during peak traffic so as no one questioned as to why vehicles were running on these roads in the early hours.

My point is if you want a tax guzzling 4x4 and enjoy it then stop the moaning about it cos as usual you will find the extra cash to do it just the same as if you smoke or drink regardless of who is in charge down there as we did when its an english man.... :x

bigjim · 16-03-2008, 09:59

I think that this is not a Scotish , Welsh, or English problem but a British one we can not anymore protest about anything if you strike you cant afford it, if you blockaid the fuel depots you are classed as breaking national security laws, MP ignore been lobbied by letter or E-Mail as noeadays they get so many, how can you get your point over to a deaf blind government? the opposition seem to listen but you bet your bottom dollar if they get in they will carry on the same, they dress thing up they told every one that they were giving family £20 child benifit generous no they are only in reality giving £1.80 extra wow £20 PA up £285 down when you take in the fact that water rates are up, council tax up 18%, every thing is costing more as the head of a large family i am struggling to survive it then pushes people to run on credit and then that starts another nasty cycle off with the econamy, help we are all drowning in taxes, what is the answer?
possably leave the country and become a entnic minority somewere else?
its an unreal goverment (all parties ) in clowd Cuckoo land

leo23 · 16-03-2008, 10:11

my m8 went to oz and never looked back,might join him....

bigjim · 16-03-2008, 10:33

Rumour has it that the UK is the laughing stock of europe,we pay for everything and everyone in the EEC community what does the french pay for or the polish they take the hand outs and it is more benifishal for them to live and work here they recieve enough in working tax credits to send it home and buy a house???

15-03-2008, 22:20	#42
Allboys Guest Posts: n/a	Road Tax Ok, Trying not to let my blood pressure pop reading some of these comments, but is it any wonder scotland and wales wanted to go it alone after there industries being either privitised or closed down mainly by a english parliment. Gas/electricity/hospitals/royal mail/bt everyone has been turned over by a goverment at some time still not happy about who's in power ask a miner or there communtiy. Did i hear any englsh people shouting about an english pm ensuring that all raidoactive waste from power stations and other sites be brought to central & north scotland so as not to upset her voting public even although these convoys where running unmarked and through villages and towns past primary schools always during peak traffic so as no one questioned as to why vehicles were running on these roads in the early hours. My point is if you want a tax guzzling 4x4 and enjoy it then stop the moaning about it cos as usual you will find the extra cash to do it just the same as if you smoke or drink regardless of who is in charge down there as we did when its an english man.... :x

14-03-2008, 09:50	#31
mully Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: dorset Vehicle: Terrano11 Posts: 112	Just been surfing it looks as if my 2001 Terrano (emits 263kg) car tax will be band M from 2009 costing me £440 rising to £445 for 2010-2011, cant seem to locate anything for cars registered before March 2001.

14-03-2008, 14:16	#32
harajack Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: u k Posts: 25	£185 for pre-march 2001(over 1549cc)

14-03-2008, 16:46	#33
(RIP) PLANK Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central England, in the Heart of the Black Country Vehicle: T2 2004 TDI SE LWB Posts: 7,740	up intil now comercials have been exempt, ie crew cabs etc. does anyone know if this has changed?

14-03-2008, 17:12	#34
thor Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Warrington,Cheshire. Posts: 268	http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...le/DG_10012524 have a look 8O

15-03-2008, 18:35	#37
JonathanM Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Merseyside Posts: 1,048	http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/consume...8&in_page_id=5 I'm not sure what will happen to pre 2001 vehicles, as I don't think they had officially recorded CO2 emissions, therefore couldn't be suitably classified. sooner we loose the scots from running england, the better. Its all very well having devolution for Scotland, Wales, & Northern ireland, but currently the bulk of the population (living in england) are loosing out funding the decisions being made by the devolved states that rely on central funding. Free prescriptions in wales, better public service pay deals for two spring to mind. next thing you know the devolved states will probably have their own car tax systems, at a lower rate than england, but with central govt paying for road improveemnts etc. This isn't being racist, stateist, or aythign else-ist. Just annoyed that wales et al have their own decision maiing processes in the interests of those living there, while in england our decisions are effectively controlled by an unelected scottish prime minister, representing a scottish seat. How just.

15-03-2008, 21:33	#38
(RIP) PLANK Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central England, in the Heart of the Black Country Vehicle: T2 2004 TDI SE LWB Posts: 7,740	what about no tuition fees for students in Scotland yet English students attending a scottish university have to pay, but not visa versa? I agree it has all gone pear shaped, we allow so many millions of imigrants and then complain there in not enough housing and too many cars on the road! what an earth is going on, I for one have had much more than enough! But in real terms what can we do? voting is no answer, I think a mass abstention from voting would be more efectrive in the long term as the goverment would loose legitimacy. but thats a long term answer what can we do about things right now? they have us over a barell, we cant afford to drive to protests, high property prices mean going on strike would leave mortgaes unpaid etc etc.

15-03-2008, 21:38	#39
JonathanM Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Merseyside Posts: 1,048	Any govt has got us over a barrell, but surely a change at the top - with a PM elected by the population - would allow a review of some of the less popular decisions made by the current govt. As far as road tax, so long as I can afford to pay it, I'll run my wagon - anyone who tries any "green" rubbish my way will get short shrift - I'm paying more tax for the priveldge!!!!

15-03-2008, 21:40	#40
supertaff Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Swansea, South Wales Vehicle: 1999 (V) Terrano II SE Posts: 273	What makes you think we actually want a "Government of Wales"? The first "Democratic" decission that the Welsh assembly actually made when they came into office was to award themselves an 8% payrise !! I'm afraid that politicians, regardless of where in Britain or which party, have become "Don't do as I do, but do as I say" Merchants. Are our politicians riding around in Nissan Micra's to save the environment ? or sitting in second class carriages on train journeys to save the poor taxpayer some cash, or flying on chartered flights ? Look how they buy second homes in London, and expect us to furnish them and pay for their upkeep .... Give them Council flats, and charge them full rent !! Had my little rant .... Blood pressure returning to normal ....pulse steadying !"! Matt.

16-03-2008, 09:59	#43
bigjim Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 549	I think that this is not a Scotish , Welsh, or English problem but a British one we can not anymore protest about anything if you strike you cant afford it, if you blockaid the fuel depots you are classed as breaking national security laws, MP ignore been lobbied by letter or E-Mail as noeadays they get so many, how can you get your point over to a deaf blind government? the opposition seem to listen but you bet your bottom dollar if they get in they will carry on the same, they dress thing up they told every one that they were giving family £20 child benifit generous no they are only in reality giving £1.80 extra wow £20 PA up £285 down when you take in the fact that water rates are up, council tax up 18%, every thing is costing more as the head of a large family i am struggling to survive it then pushes people to run on credit and then that starts another nasty cycle off with the econamy, help we are all drowning in taxes, what is the answer? possably leave the country and become a entnic minority somewere else? its an unreal goverment (all parties ) in clowd Cuckoo land

16-03-2008, 10:11	#44
leo23 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 177	my m8 went to oz and never looked back,might join him....

16-03-2008, 10:33	#45
bigjim Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 549	Rumour has it that the UK is the laughing stock of europe,we pay for everything and everyone in the EEC community what does the french pay for or the polish they take the hand outs and it is more benifishal for them to live and work here they recieve enough in working tax credits to send it home and buy a house???