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Old 16-01-2011, 19:45   #31
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http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...720742&sk=wall
this chap has some interesting people incl sex ofenders some working out in the community so if you live in glos you certainly dont know whos walking past you!
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Old 16-01-2011, 19:46   #32
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I take it you decided not to read the link.
yes i did, i find some of it a bit ott to be honest, but the majority of offenders are totally out of control, and i dont think you can compare american prisons to ours, the mentaly disturbed are treated different here than out there.
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Old 16-01-2011, 19:49   #33
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i wasn't suggesting you were advocating brutality, more that sherif joe's tatics end up there, these threads go to pot so easiy Sorry
dont worry mate, i wasnt sure

I believe in human rights but its where on the scale people clock in. I also do not make judgement on people who have got it wrong. I take as I find.

With few exceptions I also believe a spent sentence is a spent sentence and its a fresh start.

Up to them after that
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Old 16-01-2011, 19:50   #34
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sex offenders castrated or steralised

thiefs have a hand removed on first offence , as per sharia law etc

murderers are incarcerated for life or given poison ( their choice )

bring back the stocks for antisocial criminals

im thinking of other punishments for other crimes at the mo ..... bear with me
we certainly dont want "sharia law" here, but i see where your coming from,
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dont worry mate, i wasnt sure

I believe in human rights but its where on the scale people clock in. I also do not make judgement on people who have got it wrong. I take as I find.

With few exceptions I also believe a spent sentence is a spent sentence and its a fresh start.

Up to them after that
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Old 16-01-2011, 20:44   #36
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bring back national service ?

No, youve got the armed forces full of volunteers.

National service would only fill them up with people who didnt want ot be nor would they want them there.

Because of the lack of conscripts amongst other factors we have the best armed forces in the world
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Old 16-01-2011, 21:20   #37
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despite the politicians best eforts i think we are very lucky over here our armed forces are best in world,we get ill we dont have to have medical ins and if some little scroat breaks into your house u know u will be the one arrested for sitting on him till police arrive lol!
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No, youve got the armed forces full of volunteers.

National service would only fill them up with people who didnt want ot be nor would they want them there.

Because of the lack of conscripts amongst other factors we have the best armed forces in the world
I agree, serving your country shouldn't feel like punishment, or done with resentment. If you don't want to do it you've no place being there. But maybe 2 years service for willing volunteers, or gap years for students in non combat roles could be encouraged as an alternative to the meaningless college and uni courses that are being forced on people?
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I agree, serving your country shouldn't feel like punishment, or done with resentment. If you don't want to do it you've no place being there. But maybe 2 years service for willing volunteers, or gap years for students in non combat roles could be encouraged as an alternative to the meaningless college and uni courses that are being forced on people?
I agree with the 2 yr bit. There was a debate a few years back which basically concluded that Nat Service wasnt a good scheme but a 2 year stint which left you , when/if you came out of the services, with the same rights as youd have had 2 years previously re eduction etc would work. A lot of people who would join the forces didnt know if it was for them and didnt want to sign up on the 6 & 12yr schemes and would lose certain age related rights by losing a couple of years.

Not surprisingly as it was quite a sensible proposition nothing came of it

The alternative is the Israeli model where theyre generally fanatically defensive and patriotic and see the 2 years as a matter of pride and just about everyone does it.
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and i suppose another problem with compulsory service is, a load of nutters who are now trained in self defence, handling fire arms, etc. etc. Who would basically be even more quilified to wreak havoc. Thats if they didnt cause so much trouble in the two years that they either got kicked out, or the military courts system became as overloaded as the civil one.
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stick em in a regimental glasshouse for a few weeks
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just hang em and goet it over with
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stick em in a regimental glasshouse for a few weeks
saw a documentary on the colchester glasshouse a few years back, it looked pretty easy in military terms.

My mate and I talking the next day genuinely reckoned we had it harder in basic training

A lad i knew got sent down for sleeping in (long story) but when he got back from pokey he said he'd enjoyed it.
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just hang em and goet it over with
best idea yet, that would save Cameron some dosh, not having to keep them.
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rapists, peado's and the like should be castrated without any anesthetic before being hung
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