Terrano 2" Body Lift Steering Issues - Steering off splines - Page 3

solarman216 · 16-08-2014, 20:06

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Originally Posted by AlexD333

Howdy all, good news all sorted at work, and yes all comments are taken on board.

Rustic - you are a lovely dude and have your heart in the right place but please know I am aware, it does aggravate when some of the comments are made, even though I'm sure you mean with good intention. Anywho on a plus note work have lengthened it out of the bulkhead. They still want me to get another donut anyway but this wont come apart.

interesting mod there Alex, not sure how it would stand up to extreme stresses, but lots on here have lifted their bodies by 2 inches and do not recall them needing to do this kind of mod, so what gives? we know that your front shocks (the originals) are different to pre 99, and your rear brakes are as well so what other surprises do the later models have, Rick

AlexD333 · 16-08-2014, 21:46

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Originally Posted by solarman216

interesting mod there Alex, not sure how it would stand up to extreme stresses, but lots on here have lifted their bodies by 2 inches and do not recall them needing to do this kind of mod, so what gives? we know that your front shocks (the originals) are different to pre 99, and your rear brakes are as well so what other surprises do the later models have, Rick

Yes tis a bit different, the techs at my work still want me to get hold of 2 donuts off the terranos so they can do a proper mod, they have called this a temp fix.

Does make you wonder what the different models have lurking?

Paff · 16-08-2014, 22:18

I just like to say that you were F'kin lucky you didn't take yourself/your passengers or others out mate. I've just come back from Norfolk with my family at around 60 to 70 mph and if it had happened to me then, well I'd hate to think what would have happened

That must have been a wake up call for you.

AlexD333 · 16-08-2014, 23:21

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I just like to say that you were F'kin lucky you didn't take yourself/your passengers or others out mate. I've just come back from Norfolk with my family at around 60 to 70 mph and if it had happened to me then, well I'd hate to think what would have happened

That must have been a wake up call for you.

Nothing to "wake up" about really, it was an unfortunate incident which I was obviously not expecting otherwise I would have done something about it.

These things happen from time to time, just lucky it picked the right spot.

Had I known there was an underlying issue then it would have been tackled.

I think people only see me post quick mods on here and assume its a bodge when infact a lot more goes on "behind the scenes" if you catch my drift.

AlexD333 · 16-08-2014, 23:26

solarman216 · 17-08-2014, 21:09

having looked at you pic in post 26, you seem to be missing a very important part, ie the safety bracket, if the rubber splits as it is you will loose all steering, with the safety bracket in place you will at least retain some steering if a little slack, so I have to ask did you remove it or was it not there before???????????? Rick

AlexD333 · 17-08-2014, 21:17

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Originally Posted by solarman216

having looked at you pic in post 26, you seem to be missing a very important part, ie the safety bracket, if the rubber splits as it is you will loose all steering, with the safety bracket in place you will at least retain some steering if a little slack, so I have to ask did you remove it or was it not there before???????????? Rick

Been meaning to ask, yep we actually took it all off, looked at it, all the jag techs were like "what is this supposed to do" systems must be different.

Of course as we are dismantling it again anyway they made sure we held on to it

briggie · 18-08-2014, 07:12

in my humble and probably worthless opinion , by removing the safety bracket it was an accident waiting to happen

AlexD333 · 18-08-2014, 08:20

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in my humble and probably worthless opinion , by removing the safety bracket it was an accident waiting to happen

No Mr Briggie sir, you have the wrong end of the stick, the bracket was only removed Saturday (after the steering came off)

The techs here still think its a stone guard more than anything?? its only attahced to two bolts.. doesent hold it together?

AlexD333 · 18-08-2014, 08:23

Yeah here we go, have a zoom on this picture, It may stop it falling to pieces all together but the car would be far from driveable if the bolts had come out anyway, and frankly I wouldnt be suprised if it would just fall out anyway if it came off.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/R20-1998-N...c#ht_387wt_904

The techs are good here, the mod they intend to do will be ace no doubt!

Paff · 18-08-2014, 09:23

That picture of the bracket looks as if the rubber shears, the metal bit will still keep the steering together, although sloppy, you would still have some steering.

Can't see exactly, but does the bent up bits stay on the shaft end?

AlexD333 · 18-08-2014, 09:37

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Originally Posted by Paff

That picture of the bracket looks as if the rubber shears, the metal bit will still keep the steering together, although sloppy, you would still have some steering.

Can't see exactly, but does the bent up bits stay on the shaft end?

The bent up bit it is going towards the lower column, the bit its bolted to is the upper column

Paff · 18-08-2014, 09:58

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Originally Posted by AlexD333

The bent up bit it is going towards the lower column, the bit its bolted to is the upper column

Yes, but if the rubber sheared, would that metal keep on the flange and not fall off?

AlexD333 · 18-08-2014, 10:25

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Yes, but if the rubber sheared, would that metal keep on the flange and not fall off?

im not sure, looks like it has the clearance to escape but can only help I guess.

AlexD333 · 26-03-2015, 20:44

Just resurrecting this thread for Banshee who is planning his body lift soon.

Banshee mate, you can see the spines bit coming off the steering box, see the groove dug out in the splined arm, the knuckle/joint must do up over this, that way it is impossible for it to slip or come off

We didn't realise at the time but mine was sitting past this

Also a pic of the mod on end of page two for you.

17-08-2014, 21:09	#36
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,428	Attention Alex having looked at you pic in post 26, you seem to be missing a very important part, ie the safety bracket, if the rubber splits as it is you will loose all steering, with the safety bracket in place you will at least retain some steering if a little slack, so I have to ask did you remove it or was it not there before???????????? Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

16-08-2014, 22:18	#33
Paff Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Just north of Ipswich, Suffolk Vehicle: Terrano II 2.7 SE+ Auto Posts: 1,094	I just like to say that you were F'kin lucky you didn't take yourself/your passengers or others out mate. I've just come back from Norfolk with my family at around 60 to 70 mph and if it had happened to me then, well I'd hate to think what would have happened That must have been a wake up call for you.

16-08-2014, 23:26	#35
AlexD333 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Uk Vehicle: 2004 Terrano 2.7 TDI Posts: 7,847

18-08-2014, 07:12	#38
briggie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: peoples democratic republic of west yorkshire Vehicle: " alice " Posts: 10,473	in my humble and probably worthless opinion , by removing the safety bracket it was an accident waiting to happen

18-08-2014, 08:23	#40
AlexD333 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Uk Vehicle: 2004 Terrano 2.7 TDI Posts: 7,847	Yeah here we go, have a zoom on this picture, It may stop it falling to pieces all together but the car would be far from driveable if the bolts had come out anyway, and frankly I wouldnt be suprised if it would just fall out anyway if it came off. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/R20-1998-N...c#ht_387wt_904 The techs are good here, the mod they intend to do will be ace no doubt!

18-08-2014, 09:23	#41
Paff Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Just north of Ipswich, Suffolk Vehicle: Terrano II 2.7 SE+ Auto Posts: 1,094	That picture of the bracket looks as if the rubber shears, the metal bit will still keep the steering together, although sloppy, you would still have some steering. Can't see exactly, but does the bent up bits stay on the shaft end?

26-03-2015, 20:44	#45
AlexD333 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Uk Vehicle: 2004 Terrano 2.7 TDI Posts: 7,847	Just resurrecting this thread for Banshee who is planning his body lift soon. Banshee mate, you can see the spines bit coming off the steering box, see the groove dug out in the splined arm, the knuckle/joint must do up over this, that way it is impossible for it to slip or come off We didn't realise at the time but mine was sitting past this Also a pic of the mod on end of page two for you.