Which one is best ?

[TONUP]

Originally Posted by daved

Get a jeep then you get to sit in this sort of comfort with a Merc 5 cylinder pushing you along

I didn't know those Jeeps were rear engined...

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by TONUP

I didn't know those Jeeps were rear engined...

depends which way youre going I suppose

[(RIP) PLANK]

back on topic i have though of buying a 3.0 sve swb (if i can find one) for myself, but i think i would settle for a 2.7tdi as they do seem a more reliable engine. I'm pleaed with my tdi van

[4wheel]

I might be selling my X Reg SWB absolutely mint with 36000 miles on the clock if anyone is interested send me a PM.All the bells and whistles,towbar etc.Her indoors wants a campervan,i'm not keen but what can a man do.

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by 4wheel

Her indoors wants a campervan

Originally Posted by 4wheel

i'm not keen but what can a man do.

In the words of Harry Hill, theres only one way to sort this.................

[makeitfit]

Originally Posted by PLANK

I'm pleaed with my tdi van

I've just bought one too (back off topic)

[BigBlack]

Originally Posted by 4wheel

Her indoors wants a campervan,i'm not keen but what can a man do.

[macabethiel]

[QUOTE=daved;108052]Get a jeep then you get to sit in this sort of comfort with a Merc 5 cylinder pushing you along

The older Jeep has a crap engine with individual cylinder heads nothing to do with Merc renown for overheating and blowing the head gaskets.

I did not know they ever fitted the old Merc 5 cyl Diesel engine- never seen one but I am not a Jeep Buff.

The later Jeep had the Merc V6 common rail engine and thats good but they had lots of problems with leaking injectors that cost a fortune to replace and can be difficult to remove as they are clamped in situ rather than screwed in. The carbon gets up the sides of the injectors between the walls of the cylinder heads and they stick solid. Specialist job to get them removed from the cyllinder head. Over a grand for a set of injectors they are laser offset drilled.

[Muckypup]

Originally Posted by daved

Get a jeep then you get to sit in this sort of comfort with a Merc 5 cylinder pushing you along

OOOOOOOHHHHH THAT LOOKS JUST LIKE MINE!

After driving a Grand Cherry it soon became clear Mavericks and Terranos aint for me... BUT before I drove one I thought they were ok

Personally, if money was not an object and it had to be a Nissan (especially with potential off-road use in mind) i'd go for a live axled Patrol, no silly crappy independant wishbones to bother with and much stronger and better to drive

[(RIP) PLANK]

Originally Posted by Muckypup

OOOOOOOHHHHH THAT LOOKS JUST LIKE MINE!

After driving a Grand Cherry it soon became clear Mavericks and Terranos aint for me... BUT before I drove one I thought they were ok

Personally, if money was not an object and it had to be a Nissan (especially with potential off-road use in mind) i'd go for a live axled Patrol, no silly crappy independant wishbones to bother with and much stronger and better to drive

well i have driven all sorts of 4x4 over the years and owned most makes, I am happy with my t2 van it tows my trailer, goes off road daily, and is a no frills working vehicle, that is economical to purchase, and run, and holds it's value well. Nothing falls in value faster than loads of gadgets petrol engined 4x4's even gas converting isn't an option (and i used to convert to lpg for a living!) you never get your money back as it costs a fortune and kills the car's internal space, or ruins it's ground clearance depending on tank choice.

I am currently considering a Jeep (2.7 diesel) for my wife, but then she does spend a fair bit of time at the hair dressers and it should look good on their car park

[Deleted account DD]

[quote=macabethiel;108268]

Originally Posted by daved

Get a jeep then you get to sit in this sort of comfort with a Merc 5 cylinder pushing you along

The older Jeep has a crap engine with individual cylinder heads nothing to do with Merc renown for overheating and blowing the head gaskets.

I did not know they ever fitted the old Merc 5 cyl Diesel engine- never seen one but I am not a Jeep Buff.

The later Jeep had the Merc V6 common rail engine and thats good but they had lots of problems with leaking injectors that cost a fortune to replace and can be difficult to remove as they are clamped in situ rather than screwed in. The carbon gets up the sides of the injectors between the walls of the cylinder heads and they stick solid. Specialist job to get them removed from the cyllinder head. Over a grand for a set of injectors they are laser offset drilled.

Im not sure where youve got your info from but its a bit confused

The 5 cylinder common rail rail fitted to my 52 reg is definitely a merc diesel. It is the engine fitted in different forms to sprinter vans, the ML range and some saloons ( 300's?? if I recall from when I was doing my pre purchase homework)

The previous diesel engine ,to be avoided, was higher capacity i think it was 2.8 but significantly lower power. Then Jeep combined with / taken over by Merc or whatever happened and as reported on various jeep forums there was an upturn in build quality (Austrian factory producing for UK & middle east at least ) , better engines and components.

Merc opened their parts cupboard to help put the jeep nightmare to an end. That included binning the old crap engine and dropping the 2.7crd workhorse in.

Natural development and evolution has of course moved the range on and it now has the superb 3.0 v6. Driving that is believing, I dont know anything like as much about the 3 litres other than it is definitely Merc sourced and Bosch fit in somewhere. I have not heard of repeated problems with the 3 litre other than fair wear and tear and the odd rougue problem as can happen with any vehicle.

The injectors on mine are as you describe and clamped in. They are a breeze to change (especially if youre binning them ) They cost £180 new from merc , top whack of course and yes thats approaching a grand for a full set (I was told they were nearly £300 each a couple of years ago ) or around £80 to £100 each recon exchange.

But lets put that in context mine is at around 90 000 (i honestly havent looked for ages and as any jeep owner will tell you the electronic display only does trip or total so Im on trip ) I have the service records and receipts for mine and it is on 4 originals one of which will need changing soon and the one I changed last year. I regard that as quite good

Other parts prices are not excessive. Air filters, oil filters, batteries etc etc are all in the same bracket as comparable trucks/engines inc Terranos. I needed a new specialist exhaust clamp dealer only for mine, quite a big chunky thing , took a deep breath went in......... £20....... Battery of a higher rating than the old chrysler one.........Bosch......£80.

The year and a bit Ive had this truck has probably been one of the cheapest periods of motoring , maintenance wise for ages

Jeeps did have a justified and horrendous reputation in some areas but as far as Im concerned on the oil burners that seemed to get sorted early in the noughties engine wise, the build quality is beyond reproach and the shed load of on board goodies all still work