Soon to be new owner of a 1997 terrano swb 2.7tdi se! with gaffa tape on wing mirrior

[lacroupade]

Originally Posted by zippy656

big some thing any way

[zippy656]

Ive got a leaning to big nose and ears..

i could also go to big scares

[zippy656]

sorry dsgrnmcm seam to have gone a little off your thread..



oh well, back to it.
youll love the SWB a lot better to play with than the LWB i have.

[Deleted account DD]

Dan , I fitted a K&N cone, as said before if you want to go deeper than the std filter use a snorkel.

I reckon the K&N actually takes in air higher up than the old plastic tube that feeds into the std item anyway

I've got Hiclones & K&N on the induction ide, 91 000 on the clock and return 25 - 30 mpg (carefully measured......I'm tight ) depending on how I've been driving.

If you can get hold of some during the warmer months use vege oil in with the diesel. Veggie oil = 70p per litre, diesel around (or just over) £1 = near as damn it 30% saving in fuel costs.

You'll have fun

[dsgrnmcm]

Originally Posted by daved

Dan , I fitted a K&N cone, as said before if you want to go deeper than the std filter use a snorkel.

I reckon the K&N actually takes in air higher up than the old plastic tube that feeds into the std item anyway

I've got Hiclones & K&N on the induction ide, 91 000 on the clock and return 25 - 30 mpg (carefully measured......I'm tight ) depending on how I've been driving.

If you can get hold of some during the warmer months use vege oil in with the diesel. Veggie oil = 70p per litre, diesel around (or just over) £1 = near as damn it 30% saving in fuel costs.

You'll have fun

so i can use the bio oil straight away, no conversion just fill it up and away i go? what sort of k&n is it the 57i or is there a terrano specific?

dan

p.s. think i'll give the bling a miss, dont live in brum anymore!

[lacroupade]

Originally Posted by dsgrnmcm

so i can use the bio oil straight away, no conversion just fill it up and away i go? what sort of k&n is it the 57i or is there a terrano specific?

dan

p.s. think i'll give the bling a miss, dont live in brum anymore!

yep its the 57i kit. fitted two on my trucks, pre and post 2000 facelift.

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by dsgrnmcm

p.s. think i'll give the bling a miss, dont live in brum anymore!

Bling youve lost me there.

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by dsgrnmcm

so i can use the bio oil straight away, no conversion just fill it up and away i go?

Mine is a 2002 2.7tdi and yes thats the case. I understand theres different fuel pumps etc that handle it differently, I did the research but I'm sorry i cant remember specifics I suspect yours will be.

Contrary to myth I have never found any evidenced info that veggie oil (svo) itself knackers the engine.

What you do have to be aware of is that its a tad thicker. That means that there may , just may be some problems with some components in some cars that cant handle it.

But effectively using the veggie oil in warmer weather means its no thicker than diesel in the colder weather. I got caught out by a cold snap and had half a tank of veggie in, It thickened up but the only effects were very poor running. I topped up with diesel, it mixed and youre away.

I generally mix the stuff but certainly this time onwards approx 75 to 100 % veggie each fill. No preheaters and no fancy equipment. I may upgrade to a twin tank with preheater (to thin it ) but quite frankly cant be arsed at the mo.

I get the same fuel consumption and including whilst towing the van no reduction in power.

I change oil and filters on all my cars every 6 to 8000 anyway so any problems that people say may occur with fuel filters, water content etc doesnt seem to be a problem.

It smells good too its brilliant in a traffic jam watching the occupants of the car behind you wondering why they can smell deep fat frying

£15 @ Makro for 20 litres at the mo (my last lot was even cheaper) makes it worth buying. I'm looking for someone in our area doing filtered used oil aka waste veg oil (wvo) that seems to clock in around 40 to 50p a litre if you buy about 100 litres of it. The reason for its cheapness seems to be that theres a lot of it about, not many trucks like ours that can run on it neat and only a finite demand for turing it into biodiesel which is its main anticapted use.

On a slight aside I havent tried bio diesel yet. We've had problems at work with fleet vehicles and bio diesel. I understand some problems are alleged to be caused by the chemical content in it reacting with seals etc as opposed to the more inert nature of "normal" diesel. I really dont know though.

Hope that helps without sending you to sleep

[lacroupade]

Originally Posted by daved

Bling youve lost me there.

there was a mench of shiny bullbars along the meandering way that is an N4x4OC thread....

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by lacroupade

there was a mench of shiny bullbars along the meandering way that is an N4x4OC thread....

ahh with you..........no bull on mine

[lacroupade]

Originally Posted by daved

Mine is a 2002 2.7tdi and yes thats the case. I understand theres different fuel pumps etc that handle it differently, I did the research but I'm sorry i cant remember specifics I suspect yours will be.

Contrary to myth I have never found any evidenced info that veggie oil (svo) itself knackers the engine.

What you do have to be aware of is that its a tad thicker. That means that there may , just may be some problems with some components in some cars that cant handle it.

But effectively using the veggie oil in warmer weather means its no thicker than diesel in the colder weather. I got caught out by a cold snap and had half a tank of veggie in, It thickened up but the only effects were very poor running. I topped up with diesel, it mixed and youre away.

I generally mix the stuff but certainly this time onwards approx 75 to 100 % veggie each fill. No preheaters and no fancy equipment. I may upgrade to a twin tank with preheater (to thin it ) but quite frankly cant be arsed at the mo.

I get the same fuel consumption and including whilst towing the van no reduction in power.

I change oil and filters on all my cars every 6 to 8000 anyway so any problems that people say may occur with fuel filters, water content etc doesnt seem to be a problem.

It smells good too its brilliant in a traffic jam watching the occupants of the car behind you wondering why they can smell deep fat frying

£15 @ Makro for 20 litres at the mo (my last lot was even cheaper) makes it worth buying. I'm looking for someone in our area doing filtered used oil aka waste veg oil (wvo) that seems to clock in around 40 to 50p a litre if you buy about 100 litres of it. The reason for its cheapness seems to be that theres a lot of it about, not many trucks like ours that can run on it neat and only a finite demand for turing it into biodiesel which is its main anticapted use.

On a slight aside I havent tried bio diesel yet. We've had problems at work with fleet vehicles and bio diesel. I understand some problems are alleged to be caused by the chemical content in it reacting with seals etc as opposed to the more inert nature of "normal" diesel. I really dont know though.

Hope that helps without sending you to sleep

If you get pulled over, especially by the revenue, wouldn't you get nobbled for not having paid duty as its straight off-the-shelf veggie oil (thought duty was payable on anything if being used as vehicle fuel?)?

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by lacroupade

If you get pulled over, especially by the revenue, wouldn't you get nobbled for not having paid duty as its straight off-the-shelf veggie oil (thought duty was payable on anything if being used as vehicle fuel?)?

Good point but no

You can use 2500 litres pa as a road fuel without paying any duty. @ 25 mpg that gives you in excess of 13 500 miles tax free fuel use

When you then consider I do around 16 000 pa in the terrano , I mix with diesel or use pure diesel during the winter months (approx 1/4 of the year), I'm on a roll

On the practical side, HMRC are responsible for enforcement, they dont dip for veggie oil as they do red diesel and have no plans to.

The onus is on them if they desired to check , to prove guilt, not you prove your innocence and to my mind that makes prosecuting bloody difficult to put it mildly and against a private motorist probably not at all cost effective.

Amongst other obstacles for them is the fact the legislation doesn't even state when the calendar for your year of usage starts starts for the private motorist

I strongly suspect the people they would go after would be someone like a transport company if they realised (via tip off or smell ) that they were running several large vehicles on veg oil they would go in and prove the fleet at that time was using the stuff, but even then hard work.

Quick disclaimer here.................the views re detection problems are mine and not official, I'm not advocating anyone stuffs the system aand my vehicle is definitely on the legal side of svo/wvo use


http://www.smartveg.com/faqs/fuel-du...etable-oil.php

Which gives a link into the confusing world of HMRC

[Deleted account DD]

I'm desperately searching for the document published by HMRC which contains the info I've commented and cant find it but I can assure any doubters I confirmed all of this "straight from the horses mouth" so to speak.

If you come across this doc http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageExcise_FAQs&propertyType=document&columns=1&id=HMCE_PROD1_024771#P10_1054
at least a big chunk of it has been superseded, particularly the private motorist registering

[lacroupade]

Thanks dave - interesting stuff, I'll be googling!

Mind you, in an effort to cultivate a better class of 4x4 colleagues I'm minded to try mine on extra virgin olive oil so in a traffic jam if i'm hungry I can nip out and dip me ciabatta up the exhaust for a little taste sensation! LMAO!

at least it'll get the punters oggling!

[Deleted account DD]

A chap with clarssssss