2003 plate terrano Lwb with twisted chasis - Page 2

samki12 · 01-02-2016, 11:00

Finally got round to having a look at the terrano yesterday seems as if it's not a twisted chassis as I was first told it's more of suspension geometry issue

as picture shows wheel is been pulled inwards

The bracket connecting the wishbone to the chassis broke which was replaced by a dodgy garage who then for whatever reason have moved the connecting bracket on the chassis and shortened the long rod that runs down the body next few pictures will explain

What am thinking is I know of a good welder/fabricater so if I can get him to get the bracket positioned exactly where it should and then replace the long rod will this cure the issue ?

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rustic · 01-02-2016, 11:28

There is a lot of chassis information in the service manual, however as you are not yet a member, that will not be available to you.
If you are aiming to keep the vehicle, then I suggest you pay your £10 as many recent newly paid members might confirm, as other information is available to you, in order to keep these normally great trucks on tbe road, for as long as possible, and at the lowest cost of repair

A way forward, might be a cut and shut for that part of the chassis, normally that part of the chassis is usually sound. There are plenty of scrappers on this forum that have become donors, but you will need someone who can weld to the correct standard.

What is the other side like?
It looks as though it has been in contact with sea water...

Best regards,
Rustic

samki12 · 01-02-2016, 11:35

The other side is aligned fine and it has lived on the coast from new if it was to be fixable I would completely smother it in underseal

If I was to have the chassis cut and shut as you say would it be safe and legal as I no of fabrication and welding company that could do the work just want for it to be safe afterwards

At the minute trying to decide weather the truck is worth saving if it is then I will definitely pay and join the forum

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elty001 · 01-02-2016, 11:38

Looking at the pictures it's looks like the torsion bar (the long rod)which is the spring for the front suspension has been welded one end so that definitely needs replacing.
They are prone for rotting around the lower compression rod mount on the chassis.
Again it's not a hard job to repair it correctly.
What is the cross member across the rear of the gearbox like?has this had a repair also,hard to tell in the pictures.

samki12 · 01-02-2016, 11:43

Yes the torsion bar is what they said they had cut down and welded up for whatever reason replacing that isn't particularly my main concern it's more the mounting point on the chassis that is of concern to me as to weather it is fixable

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Banshee · 01-02-2016, 11:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by samki12

Yes the torsion bar is what they said they had cut down and welded up for whatever reason replacing that isn't particularly my main concern it's more the mounting point on the chassis that is of concern to me as to weather it is fixable

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Torsion bars should be replaced in pairs and should not be 2nd hand ones from another truck, I'm sure someone on here at some point used a set from a scrap vehicle and one snapped in the middle

Get new ones

Also what the hell is round the CV boot

samki12 · 01-02-2016, 12:07

OK any idea where to get new ones from had a quick look on Euro car parts and they don't list them are they a Nissan only part ?

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elty001 · 01-02-2016, 12:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by samki12

Yes the torsion bar is what they said they had cut down and welded up for whatever reason replacing that isn't particularly my main concern it's more the mounting point on the chassis that is of concern to me as to weather it is fixable

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Replacing that would be a major concern as it's basically your front spring. It's high tensile steel and trust me if one of these snaps while driving the front of the truck drops like a ton of bricks..I had an adjuster bolt snap on mine a couple of years ago, luckily I was just pulling out of works carpark but it went with a bang and left it unmovable.

samki12 · 01-02-2016, 12:16

Yes I understand it needs doing and would be done I meant I no that it is fixable/able to be replaced it's just the chassis connection that am unsure on weather is able to be fix

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emjaybee · 01-02-2016, 13:30

Just my two-pence worth, but I honestly think that this kind of bodged repair has left this vehicle in a dangerous condition. I personally wouldn't travel in it and I wouldn't put anyone I cared about in it.

I know a lot of talented people on here may be able to bring it back from the brink, but I think you need to think long and hard about the consequences.

samki12 · 01-02-2016, 13:32

Yes the vehicle is off the road and has been for about a 2 years since the bodge was found I am just trying to find out if it is salvageable and just a scrapper

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Banshee · 01-02-2016, 15:29

I personally wouldn't like to fix that

Just structurally something you want to be sound, I've seen a video online of a dashcam that caught a 4x4 torsion bar snap in saudi and the car hit the wall and smashed over the bridge into another road below

jims-terrano · 01-02-2016, 15:40

Only my opinion but from the condition that I've seen I think you maye be better breaking it for parts then selling the remainder for scrap. With the money made I reckon you could by a good Terrano instead.

Sorry don't want to cause upset.

Banshee · 01-02-2016, 15:48

If he does break I'm after some bits

samki12 · 01-02-2016, 16:07

OK thanks for the advice at the end of the day I want the truck to be 100% safe if it was to go back on the road and if couldn't be made then breaking it to get another would be the next option was considering getting it to a good local garage and asking what there opinion would be.

Out of interest do these break well (is there a good demand for parts) I have broken a few cars in the past and found it difficult to shift parts due to not enough demand and to many people doing it. What sort of money could I expect for breaking it ?

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01-02-2016, 11:28	#17
rustic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Staffordshire Vehicle: Maverick Mk I 2.7 TD LWB Posts: 7,825	There is a lot of chassis information in the service manual, however as you are not yet a member, that will not be available to you. If you are aiming to keep the vehicle, then I suggest you pay your £10 as many recent newly paid members might confirm, as other information is available to you, in order to keep these normally great trucks on tbe road, for as long as possible, and at the lowest cost of repair A way forward, might be a cut and shut for that part of the chassis, normally that part of the chassis is usually sound. There are plenty of scrappers on this forum that have become donors, but you will need someone who can weld to the correct standard. What is the other side like? It looks as though it has been in contact with sea water... Best regards, Rustic __________________ Ford Maverick GLX 1995 2.7TD LWB in illusion silver, 98k miles. Owned since new, for 22 years. Best car I have ever owned. Just wish I could drive it more.

01-02-2016, 15:29	#27
Banshee Moderator Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: West Midlands Vehicle: 04 2.7 SWB Terrano II Van Posts: 13,526	I personally wouldn't like to fix that Just structurally something you want to be sound, I've seen a video online of a dashcam that caught a 4x4 torsion bar snap in saudi and the car hit the wall and smashed over the bridge into another road below __________________ Moderator 04' Terrano II SE 2.7 TDi SWB Commercial in Silver - Project Thread Toyo Open Country M/T 33's on 10J Steels, Super Strong Steering Job Navara D22 Snorkel, Front LOKKA, Maunal Hubs, EGR Blank TunitII ECU Chip, 3" Body Lift, 2" Suss Lift, Heat Exchanger Black Interior, 3.0 Borg&Beck Clutch, Eckes Heated Fuel Filter 99' Y61 Patrol GR SE 2.8 TD6 LWB in Blue/Silver - Project Thread Engine Transplant - In Progress!!!

01-02-2016, 15:48	#29
Banshee Moderator Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: West Midlands Vehicle: 04 2.7 SWB Terrano II Van Posts: 13,526	If he does break I'm after some bits __________________ Moderator 04' Terrano II SE 2.7 TDi SWB Commercial in Silver - Project Thread Toyo Open Country M/T 33's on 10J Steels, Super Strong Steering Job Navara D22 Snorkel, Front LOKKA, Maunal Hubs, EGR Blank TunitII ECU Chip, 3" Body Lift, 2" Suss Lift, Heat Exchanger Black Interior, 3.0 Borg&Beck Clutch, Eckes Heated Fuel Filter 99' Y61 Patrol GR SE 2.8 TD6 LWB in Blue/Silver - Project Thread Engine Transplant - In Progress!!!

01-02-2016, 11:00	#16
samki12 Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 45	Finally got round to having a look at the terrano yesterday seems as if it's not a twisted chassis as I was first told it's more of suspension geometry issue as picture shows wheel is been pulled inwards The bracket connecting the wishbone to the chassis broke which was replaced by a dodgy garage who then for whatever reason have moved the connecting bracket on the chassis and shortened the long rod that runs down the body next few pictures will explain What am thinking is I know of a good welder/fabricater so if I can get him to get the bracket positioned exactly where it should and then replace the long rod will this cure the issue ? Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk

01-02-2016, 11:35	#18
samki12 Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 45	The other side is aligned fine and it has lived on the coast from new if it was to be fixable I would completely smother it in underseal If I was to have the chassis cut and shut as you say would it be safe and legal as I no of fabrication and welding company that could do the work just want for it to be safe afterwards At the minute trying to decide weather the truck is worth saving if it is then I will definitely pay and join the forum Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk

01-02-2016, 11:38	#19
elty001 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Aflreton,Derbyshire. Vehicle: 2000se+ 2.7tdi terrano II Posts: 6,832	Looking at the pictures it's looks like the torsion bar (the long rod)which is the spring for the front suspension has been welded one end so that definitely needs replacing. They are prone for rotting around the lower compression rod mount on the chassis. Again it's not a hard job to repair it correctly. What is the cross member across the rear of the gearbox like?has this had a repair also,hard to tell in the pictures.

01-02-2016, 11:43	#20
samki12 Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 45	Yes the torsion bar is what they said they had cut down and welded up for whatever reason replacing that isn't particularly my main concern it's more the mounting point on the chassis that is of concern to me as to weather it is fixable Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk

01-02-2016, 12:07	#22
samki12 Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 45	OK any idea where to get new ones from had a quick look on Euro car parts and they don't list them are they a Nissan only part ? Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk

01-02-2016, 12:16	#24
samki12 Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 45	Yes I understand it needs doing and would be done I meant I no that it is fixable/able to be replaced it's just the chassis connection that am unsure on weather is able to be fix Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk

01-02-2016, 13:30	#25
emjaybee Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Oxfordshire Vehicle: 3.0Di SVE '05 5 door. Posts: 1,536	Just my two-pence worth, but I honestly think that this kind of bodged repair has left this vehicle in a dangerous condition. I personally wouldn't travel in it and I wouldn't put anyone I cared about in it. I know a lot of talented people on here may be able to bring it back from the brink, but I think you need to think long and hard about the consequences.

01-02-2016, 13:32	#26
samki12 Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 45	Yes the vehicle is off the road and has been for about a 2 years since the bodge was found I am just trying to find out if it is salvageable and just a scrapper Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk

01-02-2016, 15:40	#28
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	Only my opinion but from the condition that I've seen I think you maye be better breaking it for parts then selling the remainder for scrap. With the money made I reckon you could by a good Terrano instead. Sorry don't want to cause upset.

01-02-2016, 16:07	#30
samki12 Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 45	OK thanks for the advice at the end of the day I want the truck to be 100% safe if it was to go back on the road and if couldn't be made then breaking it to get another would be the next option was considering getting it to a good local garage and asking what there opinion would be. Out of interest do these break well (is there a good demand for parts) I have broken a few cars in the past and found it difficult to shift parts due to not enough demand and to many people doing it. What sort of money could I expect for breaking it ? Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk