Info needed please

[AlexD333]

If I'm gonna get steels id want a set of 5 problem again is budget...

Can anyone find some cheap ones?

[R1cho]

Originally Posted by AlexD333

If I'm gonna get steels id want a set of 5 problem again is budget...

Can anyone find some cheap ones?

try looking on ebay

[elty001]

Can pick up steelies new for not much dosh.
http://www.4x4tyres.co.uk/nissan/ter...-8_39_573.html

[elty001]

Don't know what the off set is of these rims though just an example of price.
Mine are 8 j(8inch wide) with zero offset.
Off set is the position of the centre(where the wheel bolts on)on the rim.
I E mine has 4 inch each side of the centre making it zero.
Minus off set means it is set further in pushing the wheel out away from the car and positive brings the wheel closer.
You want to be looking for zero or minus offset to help with your clearance issues.

[AlexD333]

Originally Posted by elty001

Don't know what the off set is of these rims though just an example of price.
Mine are 8 j(8inch wide) with zero offset.
Off set is the position of the centre(where the wheel bolts on)on the rim.
I E mine has 4 inch each side of the centre making it zero.
Minus off set means it is set further in pushing the wheel out away from the car and positive brings the wheel closer.
You want to be looking for zero or minus offset to help with your clearance issues.

Cheers my dears

Still shame about my wheels though *tear emote*

I did actually find this site, couldn't figure out how to navigate it tho

[elty001]

Fit the spacers for now and save up for some steelies then sell on the spacers once you have got wheels sorted.
I am wanting some 10 j steelies but can't afford any just now so keeping my spacers on until I can

[AlexD333]

I need to be careful here, if I go and buy steel wheels and they still rub I'm gonna be pissed

Surely I could search (or ask this comp) for a negative offset wheel?

[The Patrolman]

Originally Posted by solarman216

the prob with spacers is they stress everything more than normal, Rick

If you change the wheel to one with a greater offset or fit wheel spacers the net effect is the same. The tyre sits further out from the bearing than standard.

I need some +30mm spacers so might just bid on the ones mentioned earlier. Alex if you want them and want to bid let me know so we are not bidding against each other as I'm not too bothered but for £60 they are what I'm after

[kitchenman]

To my thinking moving the contact point further away from the bearing the load must increase
Would the insurance company accept this?

[AlexD333]

Originally Posted by kitchenman

To my thinking moving the contact point further away from the bearing the load must increase
Would the insurance company accept this?

Already thought of this, I believe you would need wheel arch extenders to cover the protruding wheels. Not sure what else

[rustic]

Originally Posted by solarman216

... the prob with spacers is they stress everything more than normal, Rick

In the same way, so will negative offset wheels.

The centre of the point load from the tyres is now further out, thus putting a greater force on the outer wheel bearing, and an increased force on the inner wheel bearing, which will be in opposition to the force on the outer.
In the 70's, mini owners were adding spacers, but wheel bearing failure was very common.

So what..
Expect increased wear on both bearings, the small play in the bearings will be exagerated due to the greater distance from the bearings, this will introduce a lot of wandering when driving.
The tracking and camber will also change if there is any play in the bearings, resulting in uneven tyre wear.

If you over adjust the bearings to remove any play, they might overheat, and fail.

Ball joints and track rod end wear, together with any steering box wear, will also be exaggerated whist driving.

If this occurs, then you need to limit your speed to a safe speed, probably better to have a guy walking in front with a red flag.

So you might need to fit new bearings, new top and bottom ball joints, new track rod ends, new poly bushes etc.
The rear wheel bearings will also be affected, but the seal may fail early due to excess wear and LSD oil will then enter the rear brake drums. (This is what happened to mine when a rear bearing failed)...

Either way, now you are aware of the issues with spacers or negative offset wheels, you can monitor the play, and get the appropriate parts replaced, and adjustments made.

Note:-
The MOT tester will probably notice more play in the front wheels, because of the extra distance out from the bearings. exaggerating any other wear too
Something else to add to the list.

[Fez_uk]

Think standard terrano rims have positive offset anyway rustic, Not saying both are ok, all depends on the offset and how and hard much you drive it. But parts will wear faster.

Main issue with spacers I have is theres an extra set if nuts to come loose (if it's that spacer type) which you can't check unless you take the wheel off.

[elty001]

I used locktite when I fitted my spacers.

[russell.huffer]

The Tyres are too big, if you fit spacers or negative offset wheels you will knock out wheel bearings so not really an option. Smaller Tyres is the way To go, cost wise I think you will find cutting through the chassis is the most expensive.

Kind regards

Russell.

[AlexD333]

Originally Posted by russell.huffer

The Tyres are too big, if you fit spacers or negative offset wheels you will knock out wheel bearings so not really an option. Smaller Tyres is the way To go, cost wise I think you will find cutting through the chassis is the most expensive.

Kind regards

Russell.

Tyres are not too big, elty is running 33's make it fit is running 35's

as mentioned its the offset of the wheels rubbing when on articulation

EDIT - im running 32's