The bradford factor

[Paul]

We have a great system at our's.. If your off sick more then 3 day's in 3 months you get a writen, have another day of within 3 months after that and your given your notice.

[macabethiel]

Originally Posted by lacroupade

Shortly afterwards he rejoined and changed his name to Dave

LOL

Did you know him ?

His first name really was Dave better not say anymore !

LOL

[macabethiel]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradford_Factor

This was the version we used.

You can't easily be sacked for sickness as it may contravene The Disability Employment Act legislation. Many firms just ignore the legislation as most people will not take them to a tribunal as that can render you almost unemployable even if you win your case.

Thats why I am a supporter of Trade Unions etc even though I am a Tory Voter. Its no easy job standing up for your rights especially if your Boss is a Bully.

when i saw this i thought it was a local thing to bradford yorkshire,didnt realise it was a national thing!

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by macabethiel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradford_Factor

This was the version we used.

Its a lot more civilised than the evolved versions that are enforced now.

[larson]

when my boss wants to sack you your backed in to a corner and forced to take redundancy.. hope he takes a dislike to me around autumn time

i was thinking the bradford factor was going to be a racist post....

[lacroupade]

Originally Posted by macabethiel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradford_Factor

This was the version we used.

You can't easily be sacked for sickness as it may contravene The Disability Employment Act legislation. Many firms just ignore the legislation as most people will not take them to a tribunal as that can render you almost unemployable even if you win your case.

Thats why I am a supporter of Trade Unions etc even though I am a Tory Voter. Its no easy job standing up for your rights especially if your Boss is a Bully.

I never thought I'd find myself agreeing with a statement like that, but I do.

The unions were their own worst enemy in the old Red Robbo days, and for many people the miners (over many years) were the straw that broke the camels back...whatever you think about the issues at the time, fact is the coal industry was bolloxed in the long term by cheap imports.

So too much militant action thats politically motivated is a bad thing IMHO, but standing up properly for employees rights is a different and laudable kettle of fish. Yes we live in a world where we can't afford to subsidise or even want to tolerate inefficiency and waste, but it doesn't mean that employers should be allowed to do as they please because the financial climate and employment shortages mean people are afraid to stand up for themselves.

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by lacroupade

I never thought I'd find myself agreeing with a statement like that, but I do.

The unions were their own worst enemy in the old Red Robbo days, and for many people the miners (over many years) were the straw that broke the camels back...whatever you think about the issues at the time, fact is the coal industry was bolloxed in the long term by cheap imports.

You dont have to be left wing to be trade union orientated. I was a rep for many years, militant as fcuk and not worried about speaking up (hence the limited careeer perhaps ) got shot down a few times but got a few good victories in

Must be in the blood. My Dad, tory through and through, was a very active trade unionist. I can remember as a kid seeing the big f off gong and chain he had as the regional chair/secretary or whatever for NALGO. (which became UNISON in 1993).

[danielj]

In recent times have found myself on the other side of the desk--the side that has to accept the sick notes and other explinations and / or excuses as to why someone is not turning up for work. Very hard to have a system that allows flexibility to employees and at the same time eliminate people pulling a sickie. That said, that Bradford Factor sounds off the wall. Doesn't seem to have made it across the pond to here yet thankfully. Can't see how it can be implemented while at the same time being fair to employees. And that will only lead to hassle and grievances and less work will be done in the long run.