fear factor

[briggie]

would this discussion not be better served through the pm medium rather than in public forum ?

dont worry mate this is just like good ol days ov mav and sharkie pulling there hair out lol
cammeraman wouldve been along ages ago and removed it to mods area but he got sacked for throwing his weight aroound a little to much lol
i still see no racist remarks in my question?

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by jace

i see no racisym just facts!

I see a very stupid question that displays to perfection the black and white attitude of bigots.

Two answers ? stay on, get off ? nothing in this world is that clear.

You wanting more options? how about "would you have the balls to get onto the bus " (presuming there was more than a bit of stereotyping to give credibility to the bod being a terrorist)......................think about it.

even better would have been a non prejudiced open question asking "what would you do if you saw.........."

Amazing how it expands when the old grey matter is applied.

One very very direct question Jace, have you ever met or even seen a "terrorist" ?

Tell you straight , what youve tried to do and failed is portray an example of an unusaul situation. What you have achieved is a stereotypical racist picture.

If youre in any doubt have a look at my post on the other thread ( about to do it)

I would suggest this tasteless thread is closed.

[extreme-4x4]

i think this thread is possibly not inclusive.... there is not an option for a white or non Muslim person who is looking at his watch / phone and smelling of bleach . and of course looking nervous or suspicious .

i think if your asking the question , it should not be referring to mr bleach as a muslim, unless you actually know he is of Muslim faith . but then if i was worried about any passenger on any form of transport.(not wanting to discriminate trains ) i would just get off

black , white and of any faith .... i might even get of if someone had a really bad cold and was coughing and spluttering all over the place .

the question asumes you are already on the bus/train (your stop is further down the route may give it away) and as yet ive not heard of any white skinhead suicide bombers ( i await with baited breath the russians blaming one!) so my percieved scenario is the most acurate maybe 20yrs ago it would have been a car on irish plates but muslim extremists are the latest incarnation of the terroist threat to our country

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by jace

the question asumes you are already on the bus/train (your stop is further down the route may give it away) and as yet ive not heard of any white skinhead suicide bombers ( i await with baited breath the russians blaming one!) so my percieved scenario is the most acurate maybe 20yrs ago it would have been a car on irish plates but muslim extremists are the latest incarnation of the terroist threat to our country

Your still a million miles away on most points.

Glasgow airport, Jeep Cherokee????????? nothing Irish about that one.

Answer some questions.

think youve gotten confused,"20 yrs ago car on irish plates" "muslim exstemists latest threat" and youve proved my point most (if not all) suicide have been muslim extremists just like the drs who drove there jeep loaded with petrol and gas cannisters into the airport they certainly werent wearing edl hoodies or have straining bull breed to fight off the firemen/security trying to douse the flames and save there lives.
so how are my comments racist and yours not many americans will be deeply upset at your jeep reference lol

[extreme-4x4]

Originally Posted by jace

the question asumes you are already on the bus/train (your stop is further down the route may give it away) and as yet ive not heard of any white skinhead suicide bombers ( i await with baited breath the russians blaming one!) so my percieved scenario is the most acurate maybe 20yrs ago it would have been a car on irish plates but muslim extremists are the latest incarnation of the terroist threat to our country

there was a father and son making chemical weapons not that long back . bnp members too


and what 10 years ago some bloke was nail bombing public areas of brixton . he was also found to be racist. not sure on his hair cut. so couldnt say if he was a skinhead.

oh and while on the subject of skinheads. the true skinhead was a movement from the late 60's that was kids of white Oregon that were interested in early reggea and ska music ... only later was the nf and at the end of the punk thing was the OI music movement of skinheads big. but a lot of that was to do with football hooliganism. bands like combat 84 and skrewdriver (aka kkk in the states ). interestingly i beleive garry bushell was involved it the start up of the OI record label (now in newspapers)

skinheads of today are mostly back the there roots with ska and reggae


oh and another thing... for those never been to a nf .or bnp march not many skinheads went . it was more joe public and his wife. people from every walks of british life some coloured people even went in the late 80's.

also went to lots of reggae parties and concerts too


the trouble with all these threads and we get plenty on here people always stereotype . i looked at both sides as a kid and chose neither. both arguments have massive flaws. i judge people on there own merits. not what colour they are or what the beleive

exactly a life is a life no matter whos ican think of quite a few who have forfetted that right and they come from every colour/nationality.
quite a few of them listed on here! http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/CHR...41671072532024

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by jace

think youve gotten confused,"20 yrs ago car on irish plates" "muslim exstemists latest threat" and youve proved my point most (if not all) suicide have been muslim extremists just like the drs who drove there jeep loaded with petrol and gas cannisters into the airport they certainly werent wearing edl hoodies or have straining bull breed to fight off the firemen/security trying to douse the flames and save there lives.
so how are my comments racist and yours not many americans will be deeply upset at your jeep reference lol

Youre clearly unaware, and the info is in the public domain, that the irish threat is re emerging. Historically they too get very nervous delivering their devices and would presumably sweat. Enforcers from over the water keep lovely pet dogs im told.

Oh.......and over here you wouldnt see them on irish plates either

I havent proven anyones point, Ive pointed out to you (in view of the fact that you still havent answered what I asked you) that a terrorist can be of any appearance and use any delivery method they choose. Be it a hybrid or their general preferred. You simply cant sterotype. Presumption is the mother of all fcuk ups.

The chances of you identifying a terrorist is slim.

Again i'll tell you straight, youve taken elements of identification and morphed them into a generally inaccurate racist stereotype (have a look at the statute)

From your description he could be late to pick up a prescription from the docs for his flu !!!!

Get yourself on the tube sometime and have a look around at just how many sweaty hassled people ar eon there looking at their watches..............of every colour and creed

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by extreme-4x4

there was a father and son making chemical weapons not that long back . bnp members too

About ten miles from here caused a bit of excitement for a while .

Shed loads of white extremists around the place.Some non sweaty ,very calm and collected prepared to sacrifice themselves.

All of which makes the racist stereotype more ludicrous

[(RIP) PLANK]

Originally Posted by jace

in response to suiucide bombings etc by muslim extremists your on bus/train your stops about 5 away an asian chappy in his pyjama suit carrying a rucksack looking nervous gets on sits down near you faint whiff bleach and he keeps looking at watch/phone do you stay on the extra stops or get off asap hes making hairs on back neck stand up!

another thing you fail to question - what if i am a muslim?

do you know i'm not?

im sure whatever religion you were you would consider it your religous duty to live and progress your religion so get off although i would hope youd reach out to your fellow muslim and engage him in conversation incase he is of the extreme side of islam and intends to do harm disuade him as i believe islam forbids taking ones own life or harming others think of the positives you could claim for your religion!
see debate brings answers closing free speech leaves unanswered questions!

maybe just maybe this chappy is thinking of emulating these guys!

[(RIP) PLANK]

Originally Posted by jace

im sure whatever religion you were you would consider it your religous duty to live and progress your religion so get off although i would hope youd reach out to your fellow muslim and engage him in conversation incase he is of the extreme side of islam and intends to do harm disuade him as i believe islam forbids taking ones own life or harming others think of the positives you could claim for your religion!
see debate brings answers closing free speech leaves unanswered questions!

I believe Jace, you are finally seeing the point