Racism in Britain today.

[tezzer]

Originally Posted by larson

the laws the law but it cant change the way we think.. i dont chose to dislike paki's and hate gays but i will always be thinking like that.. you just started this thred to cause trouble.. ya tit

my thoughts exactly larson,

carefull "tit" could be classed a sexist you know!

[lacroupade]

Originally Posted by larson

the laws the law but it cant change the way we think.. i dont chose to dislike paki's and hate gays but i will always be thinking like that.. you just started this thred to cause trouble.. ya tit

and thats the crux of it; I suspect peeps are not as 'racist' as they think - its more about the ways that some people take the pi55 out of the system that pee them off.

I mean my daughter has been going out with a muslim lad for over two years now and you wouldn't meet a nicer bloke. His dad has three of the best indian restaurants in the UK, pays lots of tax and is also a decent bloke.

On the other hand, my sister once married an illegal immigrant Kurd. He stayed til he got his passport (while working tax-free in a kebab joint), then divorced her and brought over a girl he married, she still doesn't speak a word of english and they have subsequently, depite him having a well paid full time job now at the Mini plant, got themselves a nice little council flat, all done up at the taxpayers expense, probably denying someone born and bred in this country who could have used it.

Apparently she has to pass an english exam soon or they will send her back home

and of course we all know good and bad white folks as well.

But at the end of the day its down to the Home Office and how it decides to manage the issue, and as long as there are free handouts to be had, they will keep coming.

Every time I come back from France through Paris - and I did again last week - I pass a dirty great shanty town full of the buggers - it makes my blood boil to know they'll soon be claiming my tax dollars....and often they are wandering loose in the port area trying to cadge a lift under the back of the trailer.

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there are some members on here that should visit that shanty town, i reckon they would get on well,, not for long though.

[briggie]

one thing confuses me , if the bnp/edl et al are so popular and hold the views of the majority of the country ..... why are they not in government ? ..... could it be that the majority of the population dont agree with their policies ? .... surely not ...... or maybe they dont have enough confidence in fielding a candidate ? ....or perhaps they dont support democracy ?

[tezzer]

Originally Posted by briggie

one thing confuses me , if the bnp/edl et al are so popular and hold the views of the majority of the country ..... why are they not in government ? ..... could it be that the majority of the population dont agree with their policies ? .... surely not ...... or maybe they dont have enough confidence in fielding a candidate ? ....or perhaps they dont support democracy ?

and what confuses me is, why some people stand up for these immigrants, some are justifiably welcome, but the type who only come here to bleed the system dry, are in my opinion not welcome, perhaps you (pete) and some other immigrant lovers on here, could put up a family of god knows how many, so OUR children can have homes of their own, because my kids cant get a poxy council house because they are given to the immigrants first. what do you reckon any offers to house the aliens.

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by Peasgood

Racism shows an extreme and unpleasant lack of intelligence IMO.
There are plenty of things to judge a person on, colour of skin is not one of them.

Originally Posted by PLANK

a major difference of course being the law

and the law also extents to bullying........like calling people ginga, fatty etc when it is meant in a derogatory hurtful or intimidatory manner. Just so happens that racially motivated is the one thats needed specific legislation to get the unjustified attacks in hand. Thats mainly down to the bigots creating the problem.

Point of all this is we all have different perceptions and prejudices. If you didnt you wouldn't belong to the human race.

The difference comes in when you express those prejudices and they become discriminatory or your grown up enough not to.

You'll notice most racists have a very narrow understanding of the big wide world and are very easily knocked back.

As far as the how about the forced marriages and kidnap question, the message from home office and acpo is crystal clear. They are unacceptable.

What been done about them? shed loads, that very subject happens to fall within my missus specialist role. Describing her as proactive is an understatement. However most racists will never have spoken to a rep from an asian group or the victim of a forced marriage so I wouldnt expcet them to know or understand any of it. Thats bigotry for you.

Most racists who dont like the word or seeing it debated ususally dont have anything much to contribute beyond "send em back" and "why do you support them" two very bland sweeping wide open questions

Dont know if its really one for a nissan forum but good debate plank

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by tezzer

the type who only come here to bleed the system dry, are in my opinion not welcome

Agree without reservation if thats their purpose in being in the country, but its not just them who are shafting the system.

Originally Posted by tezzer

some other immigrant lovers on here,

Now that really is an interesting statement. Nowhere, but nowhere on here have I seen anyone declare carte blanche love for immigrants

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by briggie

one thing confuses me , if the bnp/edl et al are so popular and hold the views of the majority of the country ..... why are they not in government ? ..... could it be that the majority of the population dont agree with their policies ? .... surely not ...... or maybe they dont have enough confidence in fielding a candidate ? ....or perhaps they dont support democracy ?

awww come on Pete, you now theyre a credible main stream democratic party. I mean just look how well their leader did on question time ...........
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[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by tezzer

there are some members on here that should visit that shanty town, i reckon they would get on well,, not for long though.

nawww far too violent and noisy, gave that sort of thing up years ago. I like to live a little more comfortably nowadays

[lacroupade]

Originally Posted by daved

Now that really is an interesting statement. Nowhere, but nowhere on here have I seen anyone declare carte blanche love for immigrants

I'd do the Cheeky Girls. Does that count?

[briggie]

no where at all have i said i am a imigrant lover , i am however anti racist.... a subtle difference

[briggie]

perhaps a better question to ask is ... what do you consider to be truely english society

we shouldnt have immagrants they are suposed to claim asylum in the first eu country the come to,so why are they all sat in france waiting to come here froggies dont want em and shouldnt be in france as its never the first eu contry.

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by jace

we shouldnt have immagrants they are suposed to claim asylum in the first eu country the come to,so why are they all sat in france waiting to come here froggies dont want em and shouldnt be in france as its never the first eu contry.

I dont think theres anyone would dispute with you the fact that those who cant get in lawfully to contribute should be allowed in subtle difference between that and racism.

Actually its about as subtle as a sledgehammer with a dayglo handle..........