have you read this ??

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by MontysMaverick

WITHOUT......

or

milk chocolate, not dark or white, if that helps

Its generally reckoned that no citizen born in the UK can claim to be from one blood line. Apart from the obvious, those who see themselves as white anglo saxon would probably be horrified by the results of any research they undertake

Good example is our neck of the woods. North east , lots of visits from marauding Scandinavians. Ive got blue eyes and when younger fair hair (now a dignified grey ).

Yet i was born here and served my country, never been out of the country for more than a year . Where does that leave me with the racists

Go figure springs to mind for them

[MontysMaverick]

Dave, Dont mention junkies to me its with venom that I hate them, they are selfish twats that just drain society... let them have as much shite to snort or smoke or inject as they want but when they o.d then it would be a DO NOT BRING THIS SCUMBAG BACK TO LIFE scenario

As for Nelsons crew, well what was first the chicken or the egg, most people wouldnt blame us for educating countries all over the world thro missionaries, but I wish we were not the country to "put all things right for everyone else"
we should of stayed at home and got pissed cause then we wouldnt be blamed for slavery and oppression etc etc.

It all stinks, I just want to lead a simple life and if I choose not to talk to a asian, african, muslim, catholic, black, white, then it should be my RIGHT to do so... On the other hand I wouldnt give a shite if they didnt want to talk to me, everyone to their own thing I say... simples

But heres one that always sticks in my crawl.

If I walk into a hospital and call a asian a Bla£k Arsehole then I am a rascist, but its ok for a asian to sit there and call me a arsehole in his own language and unless I can translate it I dont know what hes saying, theres a good old fashioned saying "when in Rome do as the romans do" rings true for me


Think Ive just confirmed what Tezzers said I AM A RASCIST THEN....

[MontysMaverick]

Originally Posted by daved

Its generally reckoned that no citizen born in the UK can claim to be from one blood line. Apart from the obvious, those who see themselves as white anglo saxon would probably be horrified by the results of any research they undertake

Good example is our neck of the woods. North east , lots of visits from marauding Scandinavians. Ive got blue eyes and when younger fair hair (now a dignified grey ).

Yet i was born here and served my country, never been out of the country for more than a year . Where does that leave me with the racists

Go figure springs to mind for them

You missed the point its if we were all the same shade then what the fukc would there be to argue about, thats what I was getting at, not all this history crap, Again Dave your doing what most people do and thats look backwards, forget that be positive look forward, at least thats what my ethnical deprived, abused, mis treated,asian friends tell me

[briggie]

whist i totally respect people views , my opinion is that racisim or discrimination of any kind is a dangerous field , at what point does discrimination stop and start ? ..... is it just about colour ? .... race ? .... culture ?....... its strange that if we cut ourselves we all bleed the same colour regardless of the colour of our skin , race, culture, religion etc

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by MontysMaverick

You missed the point its if we were all the same shade then what the fukc would there be to argue about, thats what I was getting at, not all this history crap, Again Dave your doing what most people do and thats look backwards, forget that be positive look forward, at least thats what my ethnical deprived, abused, mis treated,asian friends tell me

Fair do's

My missus and me are probably one of the most tolerantly intolerant couples around. By that I mean we do not tolerate racism BUT will not take crap from any one of any race. If they drop a bollock then try to cover with the race card they will get nowhere.

Funnily enough she's off to bed leaving me free to post because she's up early tomorrow to run a stand at a multi racial awareness day

The reason I love the history part of this is because when racists bang on about racial purity, how the immigrants dont contribute and what have you they seem to conveniently forget what went on to establish this formerly alleged green and pleasant land . Is that because its a tad inconvenient ? I tend to think so

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by MontysMaverick

It all stinks, I just want to lead a simple life and if I choose not to talk to a asian, african, muslim, catholic, black, white, then it should be my RIGHT to do so... On the other hand I wouldnt give a shite if they didnt want to talk to me, everyone to their own thing I say... simples

But heres one that always sticks in my crawl.

If I walk into a hospital and call a asian a Bla£k Arsehole then I am a rascist, but its ok for a asian to sit there and call me a arsehole in his own language and unless I can translate it I dont know what hes saying, theres a good old fashioned saying "when in Rome do as the romans do" rings true for me

I tend to agree with much of what youre saying. I have never been an egg and chips man whilst in spain and i try (not very well ) to speak the lingo. That has got me cred with the locals on many occasions (the raw meat sandwiches are another story ) and I would expect anyone over here to follow that principle too.

As far as people speaking in their own language, I often have a bit of a cynical chuckle when the aleged foreigner speaks English and their won whilst the pure Brit can only manage english.

I have met racist non white english folk and have made my thoughts about their attitudes very clear

I make no bones about it we have had a builder doing some work for us. His work ethos and attitude is polar opposite to the one we had in last year. You probably know just what Im going to say here..............this years is a pole and last years was a local lad aka complete cock. We paid both the same rate , only problem we've had with this years is he's busy with so much stuff working hard that when the job overran , our fault, we had to wait to get him back. last years arse ,well, we couldnt get him out of the bookies after we'd paid him








However

[tezzer]

[QUOTE=MontysMaverick;113107]Well Im sure his Dad will be there for him all the way

Times a great healer, but it takes longer than most people think and the smallest thing can set things off again,

Good luck and all the best tezzer[/QUOT


thank you, we are off to see him tomorrow, he lives in Hertfordshire so only an hour away, taking his sister and her 2 kids, my mum, he will probably be out of it for awhile because of the medication, doctors want him to rest, so we wont stay to long,

[pablo0874]

not sure if am allowed to post this here but this site i came across opens a few eyes about the state of the country and were everyone is being hoodwinked http://www.tpuc.org/

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DELETE THE POST IF IT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ON HERE

[kbekl]

now please dont play if you get angry easily and ae easily offended




how can these people walk the streets of the uk bangheadbanghead

[R1cho]

kbekl what makes me laugh about these so called extremists demonstrate is they always protest in english,,,,,,,surely if they are so extreme they should speak in thier mother tongue so as to 1 we cant undrstand as to insult us and 2 so we cant understand as to insult us, theyre just bored students that think they have something to say, it does piss me off they were just led away instead of being arrested as if it was white students doing the same thing the racism card would have been played

[harlowmaverick]

why was that demonstration left to go on for so long.
was that a racist attack i just saw on that short video clip?
the problem is that the british public are to complacent, we allow and tollerate to much !
time for a stand, look at the french and be inspired.
i thought i would never say that, but has the time come?
one of the first opening line of met police training with new recruits is
"when the revolution comes......"
so guess what they are expecting?
is it time, or are we all gonna be sheep and follow the goverment and be even more tollerent?

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by R1cho

kbekl what makes me laugh about these so called extremists demonstrate is they always protest in english,,,,,,,surely if they are so extreme they should speak in thier mother tongue so as to 1 we cant undrstand as to insult us and 2 so we cant understand as to insult us, theyre just bored students that think they have something to say, it does piss me off they were just led away instead of being arrested as if it was white students doing the same thing the racism card would have been played

Perhaps english is their main language he was speaking clearer than a lot of "Brits" Ive met. Mind you if theyd used a a language we didnt understand our very own racists would have had another complaint to field.

You just cant say that the racist card would have been played if white students were doing the same thing.

Having said all of that, there's absolutely no way that demo should have been allowed to go ahead. They were very careful from the bit of the clip I could be bothered to watch not to stray into anything that was racially motivated.

You have to understand the police on occasions like this are in between a rock and a very hard place. It is not (no pun intended) black and white. When paople say "arrest them" and nothing happens there's whinges and moans but nothing constructive forthcoming. Its the tolerant society we live in that gives you your freedom that also enables tham to take the p.

What offences would you suggest they have committed that they could have been arrested for R1cho

[R1cho]

Breach of the peace

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by R1cho

Breach of the peace

Dubious if there was a breach of the peace occuring (believe it or not it appears in that clip to actually be a lawful protest), in any case almost certainly insufficient to warrant interupting the silence which otherwise was very diginified and showed the protesters up as the arseholes they are.
You also cannot lock em up for BofP after the occurrence

[Deleted account DD]

The point I was trying to make is that they were actually making a lawful protest and theoretically at least voicing their concerns.

Things arent always what you think you see, bigger picture and all of that.

Where the cops would have been looking carefully would be for elements of the public order act (4a & 5) to be present or on a simpler level take them for incitement of breach of the peace.

However you still then have to consider the impact of the cops battling during the silence with a large group of protesters when it would take at least 2 cops per protester to drag them away.

Whats the way then................maybe sneaky quietly ..............lead them away at the end once theyve made complete cocks of themselves.........then report them lock em up if they cant be id'd

Win Win, dignified silence which represents the majority of the british public & protesters heading into the criminal justice system

Theyve also shot themselves in the foot because there is now evidence on the individuals to assist in other bits of legislation, which need corroboration , to be enforced. eg stopping protests being held