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Old 01-11-2007, 19:45   #166
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Ok,at my work they use 15ltr drums of vegitable oil in the fryers(doesn't say what it's made up of!!) once they use it,it gets taken away by someone.
So are you all saying it would be feesable to strain it with a 25micron filter and put it straight into the tank??
Or is it not as simple as that!!
If that's the case i'm laughing!! : :
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Old 01-11-2007, 19:49   #167
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Its not a simple as that - we could start a whole new forum (let alone just a thread) discussing it.
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Old 01-11-2007, 20:42   #168
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have look at big jims posts he posted few links you need few different chemicals to do job properly
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Old 03-11-2007, 23:11   #169
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Ok,at my work they use 15ltr drums of vegitable oil in the fryers(doesn't say what it's made up of!!) once they use it,it gets taken away by someone.
So are you all saying it would be feesable to strain it with a 25micron filter and put it straight into the tank??
Or is it not as simple as that!!
If that's the case i'm laughing!! : :
If you want to use that oil its got to be converted to BIODIESEL

You mix a quantity of methanol with caustic soda and make a TOXIC chemical called methoxide, after filtering the oil heat mix in the methoxide stir and watch all the crap fall to the bottom which is glycerine (soap) the biodiesel on the top, then needs water washed to get rid of the acid, then dried to get rid of the water. You then reclaim the methanol from the crap by distillation and then reuse the methanol in your next batch :P :wink:

The chemical process is called transesterification.

After making it you then have to tell HMCE what you have done and pay fuel tax duty :roll: You then have to work out how much extra electricity you've used to make the biodiesel and how much harm you've caused to the enviroment to save about 2p a litre on fuel.

If anyone thinks engines are causing climate change they should STOP using their car and WALK, you should NOT use public transport as that make no difference to you causing climate change.

The fact is if we can't afford the fuel we shouldn't own a car. Then when we no longer pay fuel duty, the government will start taxing us for causing climate change by the amount of CO2 we expel when we breath -banghead- :mrgreen: -rotfl- -rotfl- -rotfl-

Or we can whinge as usual and buy DERV from TESCO who are trying to take over the WORLD -wor-
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Old 03-11-2007, 23:46   #170
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Soory Gego, no offence meant but too many big words in that post above, you was loosing me at biodiesel, when you got to transgenderificationism I'd lost it -rotfl- I'll just stick to 50/50 veg oil by the litre and diesel. Its just too much messing to go any other route. I have trouble using a key board, can you imagine me trying to mix from the list above :roll: -rotfl- If I didn't die from the fumes I'd probably die from the explosion :wink:
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Old 04-11-2007, 03:48   #171
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Thats why I'm going to use good old petrodiesel (DERV) :wink:

My good old T2 engine was designed to run on it :smile:

Save £10 a week for a few weeks or months before your injector pump gives up the ghost then get the £2k bill for repairs. Don't it make you feel good -rotfl-

I'm sure I put something about cheap tesco fuel in my last post but it appears to have vanished :roll: very strange :roll:

or is it the methoxide fumes that are doing it -rotfl- -rotfl- -rotfl-

Have fun burning crap in yer tractors :twisted:
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Ok forget that idea!! : i'm no scientist so i'll leave all that mixing chemicals alone,will only blow myself up or gas myself... : :
I'll keep putting what's ment to go in it for know.. :?
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Old 04-11-2007, 09:21   #173
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Don't worry about your chip fat try this just good old H2 O mixture to run your diesel engine nothing fancy :wink:

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU0711/S00017.htm
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:03   #174
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I woudn' mind having a go at making some but when i get to the chemical process 'My wife says she wont give me a lone of a frock and high heels she's olso mummbling something about my glasses.
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Old 04-11-2007, 13:08   #175
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Don't worry about your chip fat try this just good old H2 O mixture to run your diesel engine nothing fancy :wink:

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU0711/S00017.htm
Rossco how much is diesel down under???? cos the uk must now be the most expensive fuel in the world, or near on. this chip fat talk is desperation talk cos we are getting taxed to death in the uk and when we die we get taxed again! and that ain't no joke but truth
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Old 04-11-2007, 13:28   #176
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daft thing is this country has oil/gas fields and government laughing at it gets revenue at source then off us poor saps no one people running red/kerescene
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I am still with gego on this! the savingsa re realtively small, and if you go down the biodiesel route is sounds very intereesteing and perhaps a good hobby, but also very time consuming and surely that otweighs the savings,

work all day then brewing fuel in the shed all night? I'll give it a miss and watch telly and drink a few cans, and maybe a drop of single malt instead, instead. Now the tax on a litre of decent Scotch put the price of diesel in perspective :
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It's now hit £105.9ltr for Diesel and £101.9ltr for Unleaded here!!! But i think the veg oil has gone up as well,infact all the prices are going sky high!!
Was just thinking have the goverment got a gagging order on the fuel protestors,they have been very quite!! :? 8)
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Old 04-11-2007, 20:36   #179
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new anti terrorisym laws preevent any kindve fuel protests as with most this new legislation it has other uses! theyve just passed phone and e mail snooping laws an you can bet any fuel protesters systems will be closley monitored!
as for veg oil maybe more people turning to it as alternative so supermarkets seeing chance for quick profit!
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Old 04-11-2007, 21:04   #180
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hi.
tesco last friday £1.98 for 3lts of rape seed oil .
tesco this friday £2.21 for 3lts of rape seed oil.
:cry: :cry: :cry:
rgds.
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