Newbie from Finland with a few dumb questions - Page 2

Oddball Matt · 30-12-2020, 19:14

Yep it was off the ground. The cv axle turned back half a turn then hit a stop, however the locking hub did not engage. The evidence is heavily suggesting bum hubs so going to order the manual ones anyway, only as said need to take one off first and count the splines to make sure I got the right ones.

Oddball Matt · 30-12-2020, 22:31

Just took one hub off and it seems I got 27 spline shafts so a pair of AVM 452:s have just been ordered, reporting back once they come and get installed if they did a thing (I reeeeally hope they will, been stuck at work for five times over the last two days in the stupidest places, really gotta plan where to park)

Oddball Matt · 30-12-2020, 22:44

OH! BTW, seems there`S a newbie no-edit on this forum so had to do an another post, the switches. The toggle switch seems to control the aux high beams on and off when high beams are selected, still trying to figure out what the rocker switch does.

And an another thing, there doesn`t seem to be an OBD system on this truck? Had an intermittent check engine light today and would like to see why but seems I cannot connect an OBD reader on such an old truck. Though I`m fairly confident it`s linked to the galloping idle surge and the godawful whistle at full throttle so a turbo hose inspection is somewhere in the near future as there`s quite likely a tear in some hose.

solarman216 · 31-12-2020, 02:09

No it is not OBD conformant but you can do a fault code check by linking certain pins on the diagnostic socket, it is in the workshop down loads section, Rick

Oddball Matt · 02-01-2021, 22:52

To pass the time waiting for the hub locks I had a little rummage through old picture folders and found these. This was my old `97 Terrano 2 2.7L manual. Bought not built though, had a body lift, sahara knobblies, tinted rear windows, spare wheel delete, metal doorskirts, box section sideskirts, side exit exhaust and lights like in a coca cola truck.

solarman216 · 02-01-2021, 23:24

Nice, Rick

Banshee · 15-01-2021, 18:20

Yeah I like that!!!!

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Oddball Matt · 15-01-2021, 23:30

Small update, offroad shop emailed me. Problems with the importer, locks won`t be arriving til sometime at february. No worries, bit of a bother driving with RWD only getting stuck here and there occasionally but nothing a shovel and a bag of grit can`t solve so far (been hella cold here lately, currently at -13.5c, was -23 when I left for work this morning)

Truck`s been working as expected and it`s really growing on me, totally loving this thing! The last car I`ve had that induced this level of enthusiasm in me was an Alfa GT and I`ve been through a LOT of cars. Sure it has it`s faults you cannot buy a 21 YO car and expect it to perform flawlessly but so far I have very little to complain about. When the temp gets a bit less brutal gonna need to address that throttle whistle/idle pump issue with a bottle of start spray to see if I can spot a leak somewhere but I`fairly certain this one will be a keeper.

Oddball Matt · 02-04-2021, 11:13

Hey guys back again after a small hiatus now as a fully paid member. Shortly after I swapped the manual freewheel locks on, the truck developed what I`m hoping to be a front wheel bearing tap. It`s too thirsty to daily at work so I`ve let it sit for a good while unused, but now the Fiat van decided to start losing gears (hopefully a transfer linkage issue) I decided now that I have a four day free weekend I`m gonna try to repair the Nissan and ordered a front wheel bearing kit. Just downloaded the workshop manual and holy moly there seems to be a TON of crap inside the front hub! Some sort of a lock nut too (seems like a castle nut?), hopefully it`ll open with a punch drive and a hammer, I think I may have suitable pliers I can do the final tightening with. Wish me luck!

solarman216 · 02-04-2021, 11:29

Hi mate, jack it up and remove the wheel, brake pads, and drive hub, then you will be able to asses the bearings properly, if you get a wheel bearing kit make sure the seal is included, they are pretty much impossible to get on their own, the bearings are easy enough to change, any problems get back on here, Rick

Oddball Matt · 02-04-2021, 11:48

Just printed out the hub assy bomb pic, seems fairly straightforward. I`m assuming I gotta remove the entire steering knuckle to get the drive shaft out and get access to the inner bearing. The kit I ordered is a FAG kit that has an O-ring, and two different sized seals with metal "cups", however in the bomb pic I can see THREE seals (A,B and C) so that`s a bit of a head scratcher but I`m assuming that will get sorted in the next couple hours one way or another.

EDIT: scratch that now I get it, the knuckle stays on and the hub comes off then just replace bearings, the third seal is behind the knuckle on the driveshaft and will not be touched

solarman216 · 02-04-2021, 12:10

Here is a pic of the hub, nut, lock ring and screws and the tool I made to fit the nut from an old box spanner, iirc it is 53mm between ctrs

solarman216 · 02-04-2021, 12:12

This is the only seal on the hub re bearings, you do need one of these as they get damaged on removeal, Rick

Oddball Matt · 02-04-2021, 14:38

Prepare thyself, for thee will laugh, hard...

There's nothing wrong with the wheel bearing. The wheel itself however was hanging on for dear life!!! Several nuts finger tight, the rest already on their way off! What was stranger still was I also noticed the allen bolts that are holding the freewheel lock bodies on the hub were also all either very loose or already partly threaded out, even though I tightened them to spec torque! The AVM assembly instruction spesifically said NOT to use threadlock when assembling the lock units but I thought F that noise and did so anyway now (loctite 243), however only on the M8 allen bolts and left the small torx screws that hold the cap on dry.

Shakedown run done, all's well in Nissan land apart from hurt pride from not checking before and a 90€ dent in my wallet. Oh and also noticed I'll be needing fresh brake pads shortly.

solarman216 · 02-04-2021, 19:33

All is well then after all, lucky it did not decide to come off when you were driving, close call I call that, Rick

31-12-2020, 02:09	#19
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	No it is not OBD conformant but you can do a fault code check by linking certain pins on the diagnostic socket, it is in the workshop down loads section, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

02-01-2021, 23:24	#21
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	Nice, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

15-01-2021, 18:20	#22
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02-04-2021, 11:29	#25
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	Hi mate, jack it up and remove the wheel, brake pads, and drive hub, then you will be able to asses the bearings properly, if you get a wheel bearing kit make sure the seal is included, they are pretty much impossible to get on their own, the bearings are easy enough to change, any problems get back on here, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

02-04-2021, 19:33	#30
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	All is well then after all, lucky it did not decide to come off when you were driving, close call I call that, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

30-12-2020, 19:14	#16
Oddball Matt Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Finland Vehicle: 1999 Terrano ll 2.7tdi Posts: 29	Yep it was off the ground. The cv axle turned back half a turn then hit a stop, however the locking hub did not engage. The evidence is heavily suggesting bum hubs so going to order the manual ones anyway, only as said need to take one off first and count the splines to make sure I got the right ones.

30-12-2020, 22:31	#17
Oddball Matt Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Finland Vehicle: 1999 Terrano ll 2.7tdi Posts: 29	Just took one hub off and it seems I got 27 spline shafts so a pair of AVM 452:s have just been ordered, reporting back once they come and get installed if they did a thing (I reeeeally hope they will, been stuck at work for five times over the last two days in the stupidest places, really gotta plan where to park)

30-12-2020, 22:44	#18
Oddball Matt Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Finland Vehicle: 1999 Terrano ll 2.7tdi Posts: 29	OH! BTW, seems there`S a newbie no-edit on this forum so had to do an another post, the switches. The toggle switch seems to control the aux high beams on and off when high beams are selected, still trying to figure out what the rocker switch does. And an another thing, there doesn`t seem to be an OBD system on this truck? Had an intermittent check engine light today and would like to see why but seems I cannot connect an OBD reader on such an old truck. Though I`m fairly confident it`s linked to the galloping idle surge and the godawful whistle at full throttle so a turbo hose inspection is somewhere in the near future as there`s quite likely a tear in some hose.

02-01-2021, 22:52	#20
Oddball Matt Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Finland Vehicle: 1999 Terrano ll 2.7tdi Posts: 29	To pass the time waiting for the hub locks I had a little rummage through old picture folders and found these. This was my old `97 Terrano 2 2.7L manual. Bought not built though, had a body lift, sahara knobblies, tinted rear windows, spare wheel delete, metal doorskirts, box section sideskirts, side exit exhaust and lights like in a coca cola truck.

15-01-2021, 23:30	#23
Oddball Matt Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Finland Vehicle: 1999 Terrano ll 2.7tdi Posts: 29	Small update, offroad shop emailed me. Problems with the importer, locks won`t be arriving til sometime at february. No worries, bit of a bother driving with RWD only getting stuck here and there occasionally but nothing a shovel and a bag of grit can`t solve so far (been hella cold here lately, currently at -13.5c, was -23 when I left for work this morning) Truck`s been working as expected and it`s really growing on me, totally loving this thing! The last car I`ve had that induced this level of enthusiasm in me was an Alfa GT and I`ve been through a LOT of cars. Sure it has it`s faults you cannot buy a 21 YO car and expect it to perform flawlessly but so far I have very little to complain about. When the temp gets a bit less brutal gonna need to address that throttle whistle/idle pump issue with a bottle of start spray to see if I can spot a leak somewhere but I`fairly certain this one will be a keeper.

02-04-2021, 11:13	#24
Oddball Matt Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Finland Vehicle: 1999 Terrano ll 2.7tdi Posts: 29	Hey guys back again after a small hiatus now as a fully paid member. Shortly after I swapped the manual freewheel locks on, the truck developed what I`m hoping to be a front wheel bearing tap. It`s too thirsty to daily at work so I`ve let it sit for a good while unused, but now the Fiat van decided to start losing gears (hopefully a transfer linkage issue) I decided now that I have a four day free weekend I`m gonna try to repair the Nissan and ordered a front wheel bearing kit. Just downloaded the workshop manual and holy moly there seems to be a TON of crap inside the front hub! Some sort of a lock nut too (seems like a castle nut?), hopefully it`ll open with a punch drive and a hammer, I think I may have suitable pliers I can do the final tightening with. Wish me luck!

02-04-2021, 11:48	#26
Oddball Matt Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Finland Vehicle: 1999 Terrano ll 2.7tdi Posts: 29	Just printed out the hub assy bomb pic, seems fairly straightforward. I`m assuming I gotta remove the entire steering knuckle to get the drive shaft out and get access to the inner bearing. The kit I ordered is a FAG kit that has an O-ring, and two different sized seals with metal "cups", however in the bomb pic I can see THREE seals (A,B and C) so that`s a bit of a head scratcher but I`m assuming that will get sorted in the next couple hours one way or another. EDIT: scratch that now I get it, the knuckle stays on and the hub comes off then just replace bearings, the third seal is behind the knuckle on the driveshaft and will not be touched

02-04-2021, 14:38	#29
Oddball Matt Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Finland Vehicle: 1999 Terrano ll 2.7tdi Posts: 29	Prepare thyself, for thee will laugh, hard... There's nothing wrong with the wheel bearing. The wheel itself however was hanging on for dear life!!! Several nuts finger tight, the rest already on their way off! What was stranger still was I also noticed the allen bolts that are holding the freewheel lock bodies on the hub were also all either very loose or already partly threaded out, even though I tightened them to spec torque! The AVM assembly instruction spesifically said NOT to use threadlock when assembling the lock units but I thought F that noise and did so anyway now (loctite 243), however only on the M8 allen bolts and left the small torx screws that hold the cap on dry. Shakedown run done, all's well in Nissan land apart from hurt pride from not checking before and a 90€ dent in my wallet. Oh and also noticed I'll be needing fresh brake pads shortly.