Headlights I’ve Been Saying This for years

jims-terrano · 24-03-2018, 18:43

RAC says new headlights 'blinding drivers' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43525525

jonny · 25-03-2018, 10:27

They are terrible things. Half the time you are flashing them thinking they have left their high beam on. I have been left with squinty eyes for a few seconds after, so it surely can't be safe.

jims-terrano · 25-03-2018, 10:32

Part of the problem is the HID and LED upgrade kits, fitted to headlights that are not designed to be used. New MOR regs will sort some out but you’ll get people removing kits and then refitting after MOT.
I have a neighbour who lives opposite with a fancy new Audi with LED headlights. Because their drive slopes down their headlights go straight into our windows and our eyes when in the car. Wouldn’t be so bad if they turned their lights off straight away but they don’t not even sure if the alarm remote turns the lights off.

jonny · 25-03-2018, 10:35

That must be a nightmare. Would a carefully aimed air rifle help.

Am i right in thinking the new MOT regs are clamping down on the retro fitted ones now.?

jims-terrano · 25-03-2018, 11:02

Yeah new MOT regs are clamping down on loads of things, I think there may be a few problems coming all our ways but only time will tell.
Apparently the upgrade kits fitted to standard headlamps are currently illegal but will pass an MOT or so I’ve seen on the Internet but after 19th May they’ll actually fail.
Classification of fails and advisories look as though they are changing too. Vehicles won’t need an MOT so I think we may all be going out and buying series 1 and 2s instead of Terranos

macabethiel · 25-03-2018, 11:22

As others have said there are some very bright headlamps even in dip beam.

My old Chrysler 300 CRD Estate had the Mercedes sourced Bi-Zenons, I found them very good with a superb main beam.
The dip beam cut off must have been fairly good as I never got flashed.

Now I have retired I do very little night driving so my old fashioned headlamps with Quartz bulbs are quite adequate only thing I did with the Jeep was upgrade the bulbs from 55/100W to 80/100 W. Not road legal but as the reflectors and polycarbonate lenses have aged they are probably about the same as brand new units.

Banshee · 25-03-2018, 11:30

Not an issue when you are sat up as high as I am

Jay666d · 25-03-2018, 11:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banshee

Not an issue when you are sat up as high as I am

I am the Dazzler!

(I removed the awful HID's tha were in my Patrol when I got it.... I'm sure they were terrible for oncoming traffic!)

Thomas-the-Terrano2 · 25-03-2018, 22:23

plus anti social fog light use, and whats all this fog light comes on when cornering...

flip those space ship citreons had corning lights in 60s.

oh and dont get me started on the twats that park up on off side of road and dont
switch down to side lights, cmon, surely know lights naturally dip to left.

solarman216 · 25-03-2018, 22:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas-the-Terrano2

plus anti social fog light use, and whats all this fog light comes on when cornering...

flip those space ship citreons had corning lights in 60s.

oh and dont get me started on the twats that park up on off side of road and dont
switch down to side lights, cmon, surely know lights naturally dip to left.

My sentiments exactly, seems people are far too self centred today to think about what they do and who they may inconvenience, Rick

Jay666d · 25-03-2018, 23:18

Daytime Running Lights that out shine indicators!

Stupid move!

terranosaurusdoug · 25-03-2018, 23:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay666d

Daytime Running Lights that out shine indicators!

Stupid move!

Ronge Raver's have brake lights that do the same

24-03-2018, 18:43	#1
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	Headlights I’ve Been Saying This for years RAC says new headlights 'blinding drivers' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43525525

25-03-2018, 11:22	#6
macabethiel Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Derby Vehicle: Freelander & Jeep GC 3.0 Posts: 4,416	Bright Headlights As others have said there are some very bright headlamps even in dip beam. My old Chrysler 300 CRD Estate had the Mercedes sourced Bi-Zenons, I found them very good with a superb main beam. The dip beam cut off must have been fairly good as I never got flashed. Now I have retired I do very little night driving so my old fashioned headlamps with Quartz bulbs are quite adequate only thing I did with the Jeep was upgrade the bulbs from 55/100W to 80/100 W. Not road legal but as the reflectors and polycarbonate lenses have aged they are probably about the same as brand new units.

25-03-2018, 11:30	#7
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25-03-2018, 22:23	#9
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25-03-2018, 10:27	#2
jonny Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Cheshire Vehicle: Terrano Posts: 198	They are terrible things. Half the time you are flashing them thinking they have left their high beam on. I have been left with squinty eyes for a few seconds after, so it surely can't be safe.

25-03-2018, 10:32	#3
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	Part of the problem is the HID and LED upgrade kits, fitted to headlights that are not designed to be used. New MOR regs will sort some out but you’ll get people removing kits and then refitting after MOT. I have a neighbour who lives opposite with a fancy new Audi with LED headlights. Because their drive slopes down their headlights go straight into our windows and our eyes when in the car. Wouldn’t be so bad if they turned their lights off straight away but they don’t not even sure if the alarm remote turns the lights off.

25-03-2018, 10:35	#4
jonny Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Cheshire Vehicle: Terrano Posts: 198	That must be a nightmare. Would a carefully aimed air rifle help. Am i right in thinking the new MOT regs are clamping down on the retro fitted ones now.?

25-03-2018, 11:02	#5
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	Yeah new MOT regs are clamping down on loads of things, I think there may be a few problems coming all our ways but only time will tell. Apparently the upgrade kits fitted to standard headlamps are currently illegal but will pass an MOT or so I’ve seen on the Internet but after 19th May they’ll actually fail. Classification of fails and advisories look as though they are changing too. Vehicles won’t need an MOT so I think we may all be going out and buying series 1 and 2s instead of Terranos

25-03-2018, 23:18	#11
Jay666d Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Northumberland Vehicle: Patrol GU3 (Y61) 3.0 SVE Posts: 1,375	Daytime Running Lights that out shine indicators! Stupid move!