hydrogen powered terrano

96terrano · 25-03-2013, 23:02

I think so anyway, wonder how it works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMnP...e_gdata_player

Fez_uk · 25-03-2013, 23:10

No way that small cell would power the car fully, probably just adding some hydrogen

solarman216 · 25-03-2013, 23:11

Yea well what a lot of non info, nice pics to waste time of Terrano badges etc but real info none, Rick

96terrano · 25-03-2013, 23:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by solarman216

Yea well what a lot of non info, nice pics to waste time of Terrano badges etc but real info none, Rick

Indeed, I actually wondered if it were set up,

makeitfit · 26-03-2013, 00:35

Our mate Stuart made one for his Landie

Yes it made hydrogen but I could fart as much after a tin of beans

MudLifeCrisis · 26-03-2013, 00:47

Funny how the top car manufacturers spending billions cant manage this yet a man with an old Terrano can. You can buy them on fleebay ...nuff said.

Mythbusters tested these..........

BUSTED

melissachels · 26-03-2013, 15:03

i've got one, it does seem to increase fuel economy a bit but no by much & calms the black moring reek too

(RIP) PLANK · 26-03-2013, 15:16

I posted a thread about hydrogen generators and got some pretty rude responses. Apparently the issue (as mythbusters and the like say) is the amount of electricity it uses to produce the hydrogen in these simple generators, the resulting load on the electrical system pretty much cancels out most of the gain.

But! and this is the interesting bit! new research is directed at using low current and a very specific frequency (a kind of Brownian motion if you like) to excite the various elements and separate them that way. A bit more complex obviously and would depend on so many other factors, like the air pressure, exact make up of the water used etc.

But i believe the future for hydrogen power is positive!

MudLifeCrisis · 26-03-2013, 17:18

Dont mention Brownian motion , had to take a few days off the other week with that ( ; )<}}}

(RIP) PLANK · 26-03-2013, 17:26

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Originally Posted by MudLifeCrisis

Dont mention Brownian motion , had to take a few days off the other week with that ( ; )<}}}

just in case anyone is interested:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownian_motion

but it's not all that interesting

firebobby · 26-03-2013, 17:51

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Originally Posted by MudLifeCrisis

Dont mention Brownian motion( ; )<}}}

Is that something to do with Blairian

briggie · 26-03-2013, 18:47

just eat lots of beans and stick a pipe up ya bum

rustic · 26-03-2013, 19:44

The process is probably electrolysis, and it is the compound of water breaking down to its basic atoms of Hydrogen, and oxygen. H2O

The gas mix will be very explosive,
If you can have a cheap electrical supply and store the hydrogen/oxygen mix, then you may be onto something.

The problem is that it requires high energy to disassociate the water.

As said before, more energy in than you get from the energy out, as the combustion engine is not very efficient. Just look at that wasted heat and noise, all is wasted energy.

Rustic

(RIP) PLANK · 26-03-2013, 19:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustic

The process is probably electrolysis, and it is the compound of water breaking down to its basic atoms of Hydrogen, and oxygen. H2O

The gas mix will be very explosive,
If you can have a cheap electrical supply and store the hydrogen/oxygen mix, then you may be onto something.

The problem is that it requires high energy to disassociate the water.

As said before, more energy in than you get from the energy out, as the combustion engine is not very efficient. Just look at that wasted heat and noise, all is wasted energy.

Rustic

have we got an echo?

96terrano · 26-03-2013, 20:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by PLANK

just in case anyone is interested:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownian_motion

but it's not all that interesting

I remember learning about this in physics a couple of years ago at school

25-03-2013, 23:02	#1
96terrano Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland Vehicle: Nissan Terrano 2.7TD LWB Posts: 8,024	hydrogen powered terrano I think so anyway, wonder how it works. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMnP...e_gdata_player

25-03-2013, 23:11	#3
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26-03-2013, 19:44	#13
rustic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Staffordshire Vehicle: Maverick Mk I 2.7 TD LWB Posts: 7,825	The process is probably electrolysis, and it is the compound of water breaking down to its basic atoms of Hydrogen, and oxygen. H2O The gas mix will be very explosive, If you can have a cheap electrical supply and store the hydrogen/oxygen mix, then you may be onto something. The problem is that it requires high energy to disassociate the water. As said before, more energy in than you get from the energy out, as the combustion engine is not very efficient. Just look at that wasted heat and noise, all is wasted energy. Rustic __________________ Ford Maverick GLX 1995 2.7TD LWB in illusion silver, 98k miles. Owned since new, for 22 years. Best car I have ever owned. Just wish I could drive it more.

25-03-2013, 23:10	#2
Fez_uk Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mid-Wales Vehicle: Maverick 2.7 - Patrol 4.2 Posts: 5,645	No way that small cell would power the car fully, probably just adding some hydrogen

26-03-2013, 00:35	#5
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	Our mate Stuart made one for his Landie Yes it made hydrogen but I could fart as much after a tin of beans

26-03-2013, 00:47	#6
MudLifeCrisis Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: St Albans Herts Vehicle: 1997 Mav 2.7tdi lwb Posts: 1,377	Funny how the top car manufacturers spending billions cant manage this yet a man with an old Terrano can. You can buy them on fleebay ...nuff said. Mythbusters tested these.......... BUSTED

26-03-2013, 15:03	#7
melissachels Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Near Armagh, Northern Ireland Vehicle: half of a T2 2.7td swb Posts: 1,216	i've got one, it does seem to increase fuel economy a bit but no by much & calms the black moring reek too

26-03-2013, 15:16	#8
(RIP) PLANK Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central England, in the Heart of the Black Country Vehicle: T2 2004 TDI SE LWB Posts: 7,740	I posted a thread about hydrogen generators and got some pretty rude responses. Apparently the issue (as mythbusters and the like say) is the amount of electricity it uses to produce the hydrogen in these simple generators, the resulting load on the electrical system pretty much cancels out most of the gain. But! and this is the interesting bit! new research is directed at using low current and a very specific frequency (a kind of Brownian motion if you like) to excite the various elements and separate them that way. A bit more complex obviously and would depend on so many other factors, like the air pressure, exact make up of the water used etc. But i believe the future for hydrogen power is positive!

26-03-2013, 17:18	#9
MudLifeCrisis Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: St Albans Herts Vehicle: 1997 Mav 2.7tdi lwb Posts: 1,377	Dont mention Brownian motion , had to take a few days off the other week with that ( ; )<}}}

26-03-2013, 18:47	#12
briggie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: peoples democratic republic of west yorkshire Vehicle: " alice " Posts: 10,473	just eat lots of beans and stick a pipe up ya bum