Job Dilemma...

Adz · 08-09-2010, 21:45

Right

I'm totally peed off with my job

I have no debt / house or anything to worry about

The MAIN reason is the CSA FLEECING me

Doing 75 hours a week & nothing to show for it

Anyway

Option 1 :
Stick at it & be depressed & moody

Option 2 :
Get sacked & claim

(never been on the dole & dont want to

)

Option 3 :
Jack in, buy my stamp every week, do at least 1 full car valet a week, sign on with a employment agency & do the odd day here & there & start breaking 4x4's

clivvy · 08-09-2010, 21:47

in your position, id quit the shitty job and do what i want to do. dont get sacked though, ive never signed on myself, but doesnt that screw up your claim??

actually, you appear to be in a great position, i hope you make a wise decision and things go in a more positive direction, good luck!

makeitfit · 08-09-2010, 21:54

Go with the flow and option 3 is the answer

Adz · 08-09-2010, 21:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by clivvy

in your position, id quit the shitty job and do what i want to do. dont get sacked though, ive never signed on myself, but doesnt that screw up your claim??

actually, you appear to be in a great position, i hope you make a wise decision and things go in a more positive direction, good luck!

Not exact figures but to give you an idea financially

I'm paid fortnightly by chq

Say i gross £1300 in the fortnight

Tax & Insurance take it down to £1000

Then the CSA take £300

Then deduct diesel / svo / bio £120

Food £200 (being a lorry driver & doing bloody service stations or London its not cheap

)

Chip in with rent for me mum & dad upto £300

Doesnt leave much for the hours worked

I will say that she left me & the cash DEFINATELY doesnt go on my kids

11redrex · 08-09-2010, 22:16

I vote 3, do what makes you happy.

tezzer · 08-09-2010, 22:34

got to be number 3 mate.

extreme-4x4 · 08-09-2010, 23:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adz

Not exact figures but to give you an idea financially

I'm paid fortnightly by chq

Say i gross £1300 in the fortnight thats around 2,800 a month

Tax & Insurance take it down to £1000

Then the CSA take £300

= 600 a month - 2 kids is 20% changing soon in your favor

Then deduct diesel / svo / bio £120 a lot of juice but i can see it

Food £200 (being a lorry driver & doing bloody service stations or London its not cheap

)= thats around 450 a month a lot of food

Chip in with rent for me mum & dad upto £300 thats 650 a month ??

Doesnt leave much for the hours worked

I will say that she left me & the cash DEFINATELY doesnt go on my kids

ok lets look at the figures. highlighted

id say you need to cut your hours and stop spending so much. i cant see you will save with the csa they wont let go. but you can cut your hours and go for re assessment based on your new hours . then once you get it . put your hours up... they only chase and assess if your ex requests it . so dont be flush around her.

cant see optoin 3 working unless you change your lifestyle and give mum less . and christ thats a lot of food - whats wrong with a packed lunch

other thoughts are ! you need to do budget plans , seak advise from people in the know , and i know i keep saying it stop spending on stuff you dont need (packed lunches) or you will never get ahead of the game.

sounds crap, you wont like it . but its true ... you need to learn to play the system . always here if you need a chat or help

extreme-4x4 · 08-09-2010, 23:31

oh and another thought if your new mrs has kids you get reduction in your csa payments. now jo moved in im entitled to 25% reduction for over 3 kids . but im not rocking the boat .

BigBlack · 09-09-2010, 09:10

Could you not cut down your hours and do valets / breaking as a side line?

Also does your employer not provide you with expenses to buy food?

On the fuel front... you drive a HGV... buy yourself a lengh of hose pipe and siphon a couple of gallons out!!!

... might lead to option 2 though!!!!

makeitfit · 09-09-2010, 09:25

Sounds like you should be self employed mate. Then you could at least claim back against tax your fuel and food etc.

You'll also be amazed at all the other er er expenses that a self employed chap has to claim for

danielj · 09-09-2010, 11:01

I wouldn't be one to advise you but would only suggest that doing 75 hours per week seems heavy and bound to take a toll especially if there is ltttle to show for it at the end of the day. Do long hours myself. Would love to be doing something different with more time for myself and family but have committments and not too many options open at the present that allow me to meet my committments so staying with it and doing the best I can with the job and family and not thinking too much about the maybe's or what if's but keeping any eye out for opportunities.
On option 3 maybe you could become a 4x4 breaker in the South of Ireland and look for crazy prices for bits and pieces like some of them here and you might do very well.

macabethiel · 09-09-2010, 13:02

If you see your kids then its a difficult choice.

If you don't and are under 30 I would sod off and work abroad somewhere warm unless you are in a new relationship.

I worked in Germany back in 1969 before we were in the EEC and enjoyed the experience. Did a stint working on a private yacht before that in 1967 and whilst in Gibralter turned down the chance of working on a yacht heading for Australia - always regretted not jumping ship!.

Now I am older I would stay put as most of my friends who have gone for a change just seemed to take their troubles with them and end up isolated in a strange place. Its at times like these that you need to count your blessings as my late Father used to say.

Are you in good health ?
Still have the limbs you were born with?
Not hungry ?
Have at least one good friend ?

Then it just sounds as if you need to change your priorities and put yourself first, cut down the hours and get the CSA payments reduced and be good to yourself - do more of what you enjoy !

Simples
(not really but you have done the hard bit in identifying the issues)

Adz · 09-09-2010, 19:00

The rent to my mum was agreed prior to the CSA steeling my money

Tried packed lunch & it doesn't work, only lorry drivers understand that

Its not like a factory when 1 o'clock comes eat ya packed lunch

You eat on your break or once your parked for the night

The pay is by the hour so the more i work the more i earn & vice-a-verser...

My lill 1's are Jay 5 & Fay 4 & i have fortnightly weekend access.
The court order is for my parents to collect & drop off.
I don't want to for my kids sake go near her after all she has put them & me through plus close friends & family.

To name but a few...

RAPE.!

NOT ONCE

BUT TWICE

& YES 2 CHILDREN CAME FROM IT

How twisted & sick is that

While that was going on i wasn't aloud to see them & all 4 of us had to have DNA Tests

I was obviously innocent & she was done for wasting police time

Thats just 1 of many nasty tricks shes tried

The kids are defiantly getting mentally abused & Fay possibly sexually abused but although the police / social (who i have NO faith in) / the school & CAF CAS know, they cant seem to get evidence

Are they waiting for another Baby P

& as for the CSA, my solicitor & local PM have had no joy in 9 months regarding my case. They wont budge on what there taking nor will they give a breakdown of when from & why.?
The 1st i knew is when my boss told me

I called them that day & have had no contact since

There a law to them selves & must be responsible for weaker parents doing silly things

I will more than likely jack in at the end of the year, sign on with an employment agency & do 1 day a week only.
That takes care of the Tax & CSA

Then buy my stamp & do valeting & 4x4 breaking

Deleted account DD · 09-09-2010, 19:37

Option 3, you must keep working at something.

I'm proud of the fact that in my working life (between finishing 6th form and to date) I have been unemployed for precisely one month and that was through being laid off and I spent that month on the looking for jobs treadmill.

I just cannot conceive jacking things in to deliberately live off the state and I intensely dislike people who do that. The dole is a crutch for when things go wrong not a lifestyle choice.

Having said that Ive always voted with my feet when Ive been unhappy somewhere.

You must maintain some self pride, I'd suggest the reason youre asking this is because you want to

Good luck

Freebird · 09-09-2010, 20:08

Do what you want to do mate, then you start to feel a whole lot better, it has already been said, do not get the sack as your benefits will be affected. When i had trouble with the csa i dropped out of the system, sold everything and did my own thing. My kids could not understand why i was doing this, but as they got older my son thought i did the right thing, i suppose it made MY small family a closer one. Any how mate whatever you decide, good luck.

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08-09-2010, 21:45	#1
Adz Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Roaming Nomad Vehicle: 1995 SWB Terrano Posts: 5,370	Job Dilemma... Right I'm totally peed off with my job I have no debt / house or anything to worry about The MAIN reason is the CSA FLEECING me Doing 75 hours a week & nothing to show for it Anyway Option 1 : Stick at it & be depressed & moody Option 2 : Get sacked & claim (never been on the dole & dont want to ) Option 3 : Jack in, buy my stamp every week, do at least 1 full car valet a week, sign on with a employment agency & do the odd day here & there & start breaking 4x4's

09-09-2010, 13:02	#12
macabethiel Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Derby Vehicle: Freelander & Jeep GC 3.0 Posts: 4,416	all work If you see your kids then its a difficult choice. If you don't and are under 30 I would sod off and work abroad somewhere warm unless you are in a new relationship. I worked in Germany back in 1969 before we were in the EEC and enjoyed the experience. Did a stint working on a private yacht before that in 1967 and whilst in Gibralter turned down the chance of working on a yacht heading for Australia - always regretted not jumping ship!. Now I am older I would stay put as most of my friends who have gone for a change just seemed to take their troubles with them and end up isolated in a strange place. Its at times like these that you need to count your blessings as my late Father used to say. Are you in good health ? Still have the limbs you were born with? Not hungry ? Have at least one good friend ? Then it just sounds as if you need to change your priorities and put yourself first, cut down the hours and get the CSA payments reduced and be good to yourself - do more of what you enjoy ! Simples (not really but you have done the hard bit in identifying the issues)

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08-09-2010, 21:47	#2
clivvy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huddersfield Vehicle: Terrano 03 LWB Posts: 6,947	in your position, id quit the shitty job and do what i want to do. dont get sacked though, ive never signed on myself, but doesnt that screw up your claim?? actually, you appear to be in a great position, i hope you make a wise decision and things go in a more positive direction, good luck!

08-09-2010, 21:54	#3
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	Go with the flow and option 3 is the answer

08-09-2010, 22:16	#5
11redrex Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: East Anglia. Buh. Vehicle: 1997 LWB Maverick 2.7TDi Posts: 1,377	I vote 3, do what makes you happy.

08-09-2010, 22:34	#6
tezzer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: basildon essex Vehicle: transit camper van 1987 Posts: 2,829	got to be number 3 mate.

08-09-2010, 23:31	#8
extreme-4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WALES Posts: 6,295	oh and another thought if your new mrs has kids you get reduction in your csa payments. now jo moved in im entitled to 25% reduction for over 3 kids . but im not rocking the boat .

09-09-2010, 09:10	#9
BigBlack Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Vehicle: 2005 Terrano II 2.7tdi SE Posts: 568	Could you not cut down your hours and do valets / breaking as a side line? Also does your employer not provide you with expenses to buy food? On the fuel front... you drive a HGV... buy yourself a lengh of hose pipe and siphon a couple of gallons out!!! ... might lead to option 2 though!!!!

09-09-2010, 09:25	#10
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	Sounds like you should be self employed mate. Then you could at least claim back against tax your fuel and food etc. You'll also be amazed at all the other er er expenses that a self employed chap has to claim for

09-09-2010, 11:01	#11
danielj Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Ireland Vehicle: Terrano 2.7TDI 03 LWB Posts: 695	I wouldn't be one to advise you but would only suggest that doing 75 hours per week seems heavy and bound to take a toll especially if there is ltttle to show for it at the end of the day. Do long hours myself. Would love to be doing something different with more time for myself and family but have committments and not too many options open at the present that allow me to meet my committments so staying with it and doing the best I can with the job and family and not thinking too much about the maybe's or what if's but keeping any eye out for opportunities. On option 3 maybe you could become a 4x4 breaker in the South of Ireland and look for crazy prices for bits and pieces like some of them here and you might do very well.

09-09-2010, 19:00	#13
Adz Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Roaming Nomad Vehicle: 1995 SWB Terrano Posts: 5,370	The rent to my mum was agreed prior to the CSA steeling my money Tried packed lunch & it doesn't work, only lorry drivers understand that Its not like a factory when 1 o'clock comes eat ya packed lunch You eat on your break or once your parked for the night The pay is by the hour so the more i work the more i earn & vice-a-verser... My lill 1's are Jay 5 & Fay 4 & i have fortnightly weekend access. The court order is for my parents to collect & drop off. I don't want to for my kids sake go near her after all she has put them & me through plus close friends & family. To name but a few... RAPE.! NOT ONCE BUT TWICE & YES 2 CHILDREN CAME FROM IT How twisted & sick is that While that was going on i wasn't aloud to see them & all 4 of us had to have DNA Tests I was obviously innocent & she was done for wasting police time Thats just 1 of many nasty tricks shes tried The kids are defiantly getting mentally abused & Fay possibly sexually abused but although the police / social (who i have NO faith in) / the school & CAF CAS know, they cant seem to get evidence Are they waiting for another Baby P & as for the CSA, my solicitor & local PM have had no joy in 9 months regarding my case. They wont budge on what there taking nor will they give a breakdown of when from & why.? The 1st i knew is when my boss told me I called them that day & have had no contact since There a law to them selves & must be responsible for weaker parents doing silly things I will more than likely jack in at the end of the year, sign on with an employment agency & do 1 day a week only. That takes care of the Tax & CSA Then buy my stamp & do valeting & 4x4 breaking

09-09-2010, 19:37	#14
Deleted account DD Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,705	Option 3, you must keep working at something. I'm proud of the fact that in my working life (between finishing 6th form and to date) I have been unemployed for precisely one month and that was through being laid off and I spent that month on the looking for jobs treadmill. I just cannot conceive jacking things in to deliberately live off the state and I intensely dislike people who do that. The dole is a crutch for when things go wrong not a lifestyle choice. Having said that Ive always voted with my feet when Ive been unhappy somewhere. You must maintain some self pride, I'd suggest the reason youre asking this is because you want to Good luck

09-09-2010, 20:08	#15
Freebird Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: West Cumbria. Vehicle: 1996 Terrano 2 Posts: 161	Do what you want to do mate, then you start to feel a whole lot better, it has already been said, do not get the sack as your benefits will be affected. When i had trouble with the csa i dropped out of the system, sold everything and did my own thing. My kids could not understand why i was doing this, but as they got older my son thought i did the right thing, i suppose it made MY small family a closer one. Any how mate whatever you decide, good luck.