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Old 18-08-2010, 21:16   #1
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Old 18-08-2010, 21:21   #2
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Old 18-08-2010, 21:23   #3
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Usually,

1/Legally:

The enforceable speed limit is the last indicated one you passed.

Travelling too fast for a given situation comes down to careless/dangerous driving with speed as an aggravating or corroborating circumstance depending on what the problem is.


2/Morally:

the driver is a cock if progression along a given road is based entirely on max speed with disregard for safety. Then pt 1 comes in


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Legally:

The enforceable speed limit is the last indicated one you passed.

Travelling too fast for a given situation comes down to careless/dangerous driving with speed as an aggravating or coroborating circumstance depending on what the problem is.


Morally:

the driver is a cock if progression along a given road is based entirely on max speed with disregard for safety.


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I forgot to put in theres no doubt some nuance for green lanes
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Old 18-08-2010, 21:30   #6
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for me, 5MPH.
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Old 18-08-2010, 21:31   #7
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I forgot to put in theres no doubt some nuance for green lanes
I wish fish would bite as fast

As for nusance! I find wa?kers, for some reason, object to having to get off a ROAD to let a vehicle past

If they used these routes as much as us respectable 4x4 owners Surely they would have there own well worn path at the side of our well defined road

I do like when you crawl up behind them with their ski sticks, no skis and no visible snow!! Then look at you and try so hard to force a smile they nearly follow through

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as previous but also allow that may find a walker, cyclist or horse rider,
or other animal, round next corner.

typically walking pace some suffice, after all trying to get away from
the rat race, would also suggest that many lanes have vechicular
access from horse and cart days of yor.

may be urban myths but some lanes have been vandalised by anti
vehicle groups, tyre damaging timber bearing nails etc in puddles
so whilst makes good photos for others risk to life and machine.

above all the old slogan Tread Lightly, suggests how slow can you go?

speed could be used as evidence to close a lane, going back to daved's
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as previous but also allow that may find a walker, cyclist or horse rider,
or other animal, round next corner.

typically walking pace some suffice, after all trying to get away from
the rat race, would also suggest that many lanes have vechicular
access from horse and cart days of yor.

may be urban myths but some lanes have been vandalised by anti
vehicle groups, tyre damaging timber bearing nails etc in puddles
so whilst makes good photos for others risk to life and machine.

above all the old slogan Tread Lightly, suggests how slow can you go?

speed could be used as evidence to close a lane, going back to daved's
points.

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Sorry peoples!! Didn't want to get yr backs up

I take things easy. It's a steady day out with wife n kids n dog(s)nand the mere thought of anywhere near the 30mph limit is too damn scary even on the flattest of looking lanes / tracks!!
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As for nusance! I find wa?kers, for some reason, object to having to get off a ROAD to let a vehicle past

If they used these routes as much as us respectable 4x4 owners Surely they would have there own well worn path at the side of our well defined road

I do like when you crawl up behind them with their ski sticks, no skis and no visible snow!! Then look at you and try so hard to force a smile they nearly follow through
Its give and take.

Ive come very close to punching the lights out on or two fu**ing ignorant 4x4 biffs who wanted to argue why they should be allowed to go so fast or dangerously along bridleways et al (which btw for enforcement purposes are generally covered by most aspects of the RTA). Quite funny when they come back at you with the who the **** are you argument. I ususally gently explain and youd be gobsmacked how many immediately (despite bar room bravado and stories) back down . I strongly suspect its because they KNOW what they shoudl and shouldnt be doing but prefer to do the off road version of a boy racer.

Those type of A holes are closely followed by cyclists. Generally travelling briskly, generally teetering on the edge of losing control because its fun and generally too close to pedestrians and vehicles.

Then youve got the representatives from the ramblers association who take it on themselves to to launch a quest to preserve historic rights by blocking all other movement by , as you say , not moving out of the way.

As I walk (more like climb the places I seem to end up) , cycle and drive I can see it from all directions.

I had a good conversation last year with the game keeper on a stretch of land on the moors up by scaling dam. As an enthusiastic walker and 4x4 er he had no problem with people accessing the land so long as they respected it. Top of the hit list of problems were dogs out of control with inconsiderate 4x4 ers a very close second. The rest he told me sort of find their own level and sort things out.

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I just wish we had green lanes, us Scots invented almost everything but missed out on those
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It's an odd thing how wherever there is any piece of open space people start finding ways to assert possesion of it and deny others access for whatever reason, and the justify it by finding others who feel the same.

I assume that legaly it is the national speed limit, but moraly as fast as it is safe to go. It's odd how many people have no understanding or apprecaition of what the national speed limit is or to which vehicles it applies.

For example, in my T2 being a commercial vehicle with a gross eight of over 2 tonnes, National seed limit on a sinlge track road is 50 mph, while in a T2 'car' it is, of course, 60. I often wonder why, is it to make me an unwitting rolling road block?
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