stupidity beyond belief

briggie · 17-06-2010, 08:33

Published Date: 14 June 2010 Angry postal workers in Northampton say they have been told to remove England flags from their delivery vans and anywhere they may be seen by members of the public because of fears they may cause offence.As England kicked off their World Cup campaign at the weekend, workers at the Crow Lane sorting office in Billing were told to remove flags from their vans and any offices where they could be seen by the public

clivvy · 17-06-2010, 08:40

THAT, could get annoying. its highly suggestive that we dont live in a democracy. its our flag, this is England, Great Britain and we have the god damn RIGHT to fly our flag. I cannot believe that the companies of this country are so far up their own arses that they do NOT support the country that makes them their money. tossers. if i worked for that company, i had my face painted as a St George flag.

Liam · 17-06-2010, 11:24

Well,I suppose if it was acceptable for companies from other countries i.e.USA,France,Ireland,Germany,Iran,Iraq etc, to fly their countries flags if they were involved in the World Cup,then it would be ok to also fly the St. George flag or the Union Jack. Think the Royal Mail are just trying to keep a level playing pitch,no flags from any country. Otherwise your postie who may be from another country could claim he/she should be allowed to fly his/her country's flag. I do take your point about it being your flag but shouldn't Royal Mail just behave like a mail delivery company and not a football supporters club?

clivvy · 17-06-2010, 12:05

I totally understand what you are saying BUT on the flip side why shouldn't they support or it's staff to support their teams? I'm totally for multi flag displays, it gives me a sense of unity and I like to see the flags. I think it's great for a company to show it's support for a team or lots of teams, rather than just flat say NO it just takes away a choice from a country who's choices are becoming increasingly restricted.I think if they are choosing to be neutral, then they should change their company name to "mail" because to be Royal in this country is to be British, and most Brits support their countries football team and of course other teams but everyone should be allowed to show that support at their discretion. The company should be seen to be supportive. He'll, I don't even like football!

clivvy · 17-06-2010, 12:24

p.s. im certainly not arguing with you, or even disagreeing, its just a subject ive become increasingly interested in-the denial of the right to fly a flag.

Loz · 17-06-2010, 17:26

I work for network rail & we're not allowed to fly the flag either, though this year they're not being so strict.
My mum works for Balfour Beatty & she was told to remove England flags from a notice board in the office, when she asked why, she was told that other nationalities may object & she replied " well they can put their own flags up can't they?"

But it's not all bad, have a look at the RAC building on the M6, it's covered in England flags & there's also a large banner with all the nations flags, very sensible.

Liam · 17-06-2010, 17:57

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Originally Posted by Loz

But it's not all bad, have a look at the RAC building on the M6, it's covered in England flags & there's also a large banner with all the nations flags, very sensible.

Now that is sensible and something that companies could allow staff to do. I'm Irish but the most ridiculous thing that I know of happening in England is English (not British) people not being able to get a passport with English as their nationality on it. Scots can put Scottish,Welsh can put Welsh but the English can only but British. Like as if English no longer exists as a nationality. That would make me want to move to Scotland or Wales

patbhoy · 17-06-2010, 18:20

I have to agree, get the flags down

clivvy · 17-06-2010, 18:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam

Now that is sensible and something that companies could allow staff to do. I'm Irish but the most ridiculous thing that I know of happening in England is English (not British) people not being able to get a passport with English as their nationality on it. Scots can put Scottish,Welsh can put Welsh but the English can only but British. Like as if English no longer exists as a nationality. That would make me want to move to Scotland or Wales

I like that idea, good for RAC, thats what im talking about. does seem odd, i never noticed that on my passport to be honest, its a good point..

Thomas-the-Terrano2 · 17-06-2010, 19:25

well my employer dsgi has gone to town on the world cup,
suppose in interest as one of our chains currys has a cash
for goals promotion on tv sales...

the atrium in the contact centre is awash with all of the
flags, the desks in my group of teams are dressed as england
funnily enough as we are decorating with an english theme,
other teams being alocated other countries. its a competition
to see which can dress their pods of desks the best.

when i was on the buses we avoided carrying flags, suppose
at worst claims of damage when they break loose.

guess its all down to PC and professionalism.

the games are a private thing, many want to go to work
to get away from it,though at home is funny to see
effort made by other house holders, especially several
houses in a row, bit of a local dressing up thing competion
like xmas lights....

extreme-4x4 · 17-06-2010, 19:54

what utter bollocks

fly our flag its our flag . and our nation

if people want to visit or even stay then they can expect we will fly our nations flag

if they want to fly there flag they can .

im sick to death of all this multi cultural bollocks

what ever next we all have the same flag so no one can be offended by someone elses flag. maybe we could call it . the new world order and all live in harmony , just how they would like us all to do . we could even serve like puppets too

FFS fu ck off with your im offended shite

Liam · 17-06-2010, 22:54

Yep,the World Cup sure does unite the world,doesn't it?

Hope you have a St George or Union Jack flying in a very prominent location on your house in Wales,Col.

I'm sticking a great big Tricolour on my T2 when I next visit the UK. I'll just make sure someone else drives it off the ferry.......

extreme-4x4 · 17-06-2010, 23:08

one of the reasons i left england... your not allowed to be patriotic in england ... i wanted the kids to grow up having an identity something to be proud of ... your not allowed in england ... so went to wales

and its my home . its where i want to be

imagine how the welsh would react if you told them they cant use there fags any more

everyone needs to be proud of being from somewhere

Liam · 17-06-2010, 23:24

Dead right,nothing wrong with a bit of pride in your country. Roll on tomorrow night's match.

clivvy · 18-06-2010, 07:55

hey Extreme, totally agree with you mate. ive often thought of moving to Wales myself, but as im attached, it wont happen, so we settle for as many visits as we can afford. The thing I love about Wales, is the pride, and the relaxed nature, at least thats what ive found. ive a good friend down in Swansea, and he has let us stay at his parents static in the Gower, cant remember the name of the place but it begins with two Ll's and ends in IN!

17-06-2010, 08:33	#1
briggie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: peoples democratic republic of west yorkshire Vehicle: " alice " Posts: 10,473	stupidity beyond belief Published Date: 14 June 2010 Angry postal workers in Northampton say they have been told to remove England flags from their delivery vans and anywhere they may be seen by members of the public because of fears they may cause offence.As England kicked off their World Cup campaign at the weekend, workers at the Crow Lane sorting office in Billing were told to remove flags from their vans and any offices where they could be seen by the public

17-06-2010, 19:25	#10
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17-06-2010, 08:40	#2
clivvy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huddersfield Vehicle: Terrano 03 LWB Posts: 6,947	THAT, could get annoying. its highly suggestive that we dont live in a democracy. its our flag, this is England, Great Britain and we have the god damn RIGHT to fly our flag. I cannot believe that the companies of this country are so far up their own arses that they do NOT support the country that makes them their money. tossers. if i worked for that company, i had my face painted as a St George flag.

17-06-2010, 11:24	#3
Liam Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Laois,Ireland Posts: 923	Well,I suppose if it was acceptable for companies from other countries i.e.USA,France,Ireland,Germany,Iran,Iraq etc, to fly their countries flags if they were involved in the World Cup,then it would be ok to also fly the St. George flag or the Union Jack. Think the Royal Mail are just trying to keep a level playing pitch,no flags from any country. Otherwise your postie who may be from another country could claim he/she should be allowed to fly his/her country's flag. I do take your point about it being your flag but shouldn't Royal Mail just behave like a mail delivery company and not a football supporters club?

17-06-2010, 12:05	#4
clivvy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huddersfield Vehicle: Terrano 03 LWB Posts: 6,947	I totally understand what you are saying BUT on the flip side why shouldn't they support or it's staff to support their teams? I'm totally for multi flag displays, it gives me a sense of unity and I like to see the flags. I think it's great for a company to show it's support for a team or lots of teams, rather than just flat say NO it just takes away a choice from a country who's choices are becoming increasingly restricted.I think if they are choosing to be neutral, then they should change their company name to "mail" because to be Royal in this country is to be British, and most Brits support their countries football team and of course other teams but everyone should be allowed to show that support at their discretion. The company should be seen to be supportive. He'll, I don't even like football!

17-06-2010, 12:24	#5
clivvy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huddersfield Vehicle: Terrano 03 LWB Posts: 6,947	p.s. im certainly not arguing with you, or even disagreeing, its just a subject ive become increasingly interested in-the denial of the right to fly a flag.

17-06-2010, 17:26	#6
Loz Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Wolverhampton, UK. Vehicle: Still saving... Posts: 188	I work for network rail & we're not allowed to fly the flag either, though this year they're not being so strict. My mum works for Balfour Beatty & she was told to remove England flags from a notice board in the office, when she asked why, she was told that other nationalities may object & she replied " well they can put their own flags up can't they?" But it's not all bad, have a look at the RAC building on the M6, it's covered in England flags & there's also a large banner with all the nations flags, very sensible.

17-06-2010, 18:20	#8
patbhoy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bridge of Weir, Scotland Vehicle: Nissan Patrol GR SE 2.8TD Posts: 526	I have to agree, get the flags down

17-06-2010, 19:54	#11
extreme-4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WALES Posts: 6,295	what utter bollocks fly our flag its our flag . and our nation if people want to visit or even stay then they can expect we will fly our nations flag if they want to fly there flag they can . im sick to death of all this multi cultural bollocks what ever next we all have the same flag so no one can be offended by someone elses flag. maybe we could call it . the new world order and all live in harmony , just how they would like us all to do . we could even serve like puppets too FFS fu ck off with your im offended shite

17-06-2010, 22:54	#12
Liam Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Laois,Ireland Posts: 923	Yep,the World Cup sure does unite the world,doesn't it? Hope you have a St George or Union Jack flying in a very prominent location on your house in Wales,Col. I'm sticking a great big Tricolour on my T2 when I next visit the UK. I'll just make sure someone else drives it off the ferry.......

17-06-2010, 23:08	#13
extreme-4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WALES Posts: 6,295	one of the reasons i left england... your not allowed to be patriotic in england ... i wanted the kids to grow up having an identity something to be proud of ... your not allowed in england ... so went to wales and its my home . its where i want to be imagine how the welsh would react if you told them they cant use there fags any more everyone needs to be proud of being from somewhere

17-06-2010, 23:24	#14
Liam Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Laois,Ireland Posts: 923	Dead right,nothing wrong with a bit of pride in your country. Roll on tomorrow night's match.

18-06-2010, 07:55	#15
clivvy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huddersfield Vehicle: Terrano 03 LWB Posts: 6,947	hey Extreme, totally agree with you mate. ive often thought of moving to Wales myself, but as im attached, it wont happen, so we settle for as many visits as we can afford. The thing I love about Wales, is the pride, and the relaxed nature, at least thats what ive found. ive a good friend down in Swansea, and he has let us stay at his parents static in the Gower, cant remember the name of the place but it begins with two Ll's and ends in IN!