X Trails built in France?

CaptLimey · 22-09-2009, 19:28

I'm watching an X Trail LHD at;-

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=170385311960.

The seller states that it was built in France and sold new in Germany. I was unaware that Nissan built them in France - anybody have further knowledge?

Regards CL

lacroupade · 22-09-2009, 20:04

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Originally Posted by CaptLimey

I'm watching an X Trail LHD at;-

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=170385311960.

The seller states that it was built in France and sold new in Germany. I was unaware that Nissan built them in France - anybody have further knowledge?

Regards CL

all things are possible given the Renault connection.....lets have a google

lacroupade · 22-09-2009, 20:05

http://wardsauto.com/ar/xtrail_global_collaboration/

lacroupade · 22-09-2009, 20:09

I notice its carrying that new French registration marking - has that been around as long as 2005, I didn't think so? which implies it HAS been imported in from another EU country fairly recently....but not built in France I don't think from my quick research....

lacroupade · 22-09-2009, 20:40

well after much digging i think the concensus is its japan.....the platform is used on other vehicles (Qashquai built in Sunderland for example) but the X-Trail would seem to emanate from the LOTRS :-)

CaptLimey · 22-09-2009, 21:54

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Originally Posted by lacroupade

well after much digging i think the concensus is its japan.....the platform is used on other vehicles (Qashquai built in Sunderland for example) but the X-Trail would seem to emanate from the LOTRS :-)

Hi Lacroupade

Thanks for your quick response and research results. (You're clearly far quicker on the keyboard than me!).

Sorry, please excuse my ignorance, but what is/where is ' the LOTRS' ? (Land of the .....?)

As the vehicle is already registered (Immatriculated) in France, there would not seem to be a problem (apart from the price!!!) in buying it for use here. Re the recent new registration number, yes, it has only just been taken into use here (Lot dept.) this year, so the vehicle must be a recent registration in France. I'll keep watching it on ebay - if only out of morbid interest.

Re the grass - yes our summer has been gloriously hot and sunny and continues to be so, even today - late September! But a recent deluge has rejuvenated our lawn and I think I'll be cutting again before the winter 'grass recess'.

Regards CL

lacroupade · 22-09-2009, 22:23

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Originally Posted by CaptLimey

Hi Lacroupade

Thanks for your quick response and research results. (You're clearly far quicker on the keyboard than me!).

Sorry, please excuse my ignorance, but what is/where is ' the LOTRS' ? (Land of the .....?)

As the vehicle is already registered (Immatriculated) in France, there would not seem to be a problem (apart from the price!!!) in buying it for use here. Re the recent new registration number, yes, it has only just been taken into use here (Lot dept.) this year, so the vehicle must be a recent registration in France. I'll keep watching it on ebay - if only out of morbid interest.

Re the grass - yes our summer has been gloriously hot and sunny and continues to be so, even today - late September! But a recent deluge has rejuvenated our lawn and I think I'll be cutting again before the winter 'grass recess'.

Regards CL

...Rising Sun

yes i noticed a lot of those regs, with a separate plate showing the dept., this trip, but none last October, so i assumed it was a new thing.....do they stay with the car then (unlke the old ones which were dept-specific of course)?

I got pinchd for speeding on the autoroute for the first time in seven years - cost me 45 euros but luckily I'd slowd down A LOT just before the (well hidden civilian) camera car spotted me....then they flagged me off at the toll booth the buggers.

CaptLimey · 23-09-2009, 19:55

Hi Lacroupade

Yeah - should have got the last two letter clue ... RS....of course 'Rising Sun'. (It was, after all, late in the evening, following the obligatory 'aperos').

Yes, the new French registration numbers, as I'm given to understand, remain with the vehicle regardless of the departmental residence of the keeper/owner.

I've just registered a caravan I bought in the UK, here in the Lot Department of France and it does not have a departmental specific number, although it does have a blue 46 at the end, denoting the Lot. (Same difference really)

Re speeding - join the club!

Been nicked twice, once by an unmanned camera, paid the 90 Euros, 'toute suite', before the penalty rose due to delayed payment! Then by the Gendarmes with a 'hair dryer' radar gun. Paid another 90 but had to change my UK licence for a French one so that they could take some points away. In France you start with (I think) ten points on your licence and a number are subtracted relevant to each infringement, until you have none left and your licence is invalid.

Beware if you do a lot of autoroute travel. I've heard (anecdotally) that 'they' can stop you at any Peage and check the time you passed through the previous one, calculate the distance/time and determine that you must have considerably exceeded the speed limit to get where you did in the elapsed time. Don't know anyone who has suffered as a result.... but it's a good after 'aperos' talking point! It certainly keeps me aware of the need to adhere to the speed limits and to make liberal use of the speed limiter on our Scenic's cruise control!

Regards CL

P.S. What happened to Cyclops?

extreme-4x4 · 23-09-2009, 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptLimey

Hi Lacroupade

Yeah - should have got the last two letter clue ... RS....of course 'Rising Sun'. (It was, after all, late in the evening, following the obligatory 'aperos').

Yes, the new French registration numbers, as I'm given to understand, remain with the vehicle regardless of the departmental residence of the keeper/owner.

I've just registered a caravan I bought in the UK, here in the Lot Department of France and it does not have a departmental specific number, although it does have a blue 46 at the end, denoting the Lot. (Same difference really)

Re speeding - join the club!

Been nicked twice, once by an unmanned camera, paid the 90 Euros, 'toute suite', before the penalty rose due to delayed payment! Then by the Gendarmes with a 'hair dryer' radar gun. Paid another 90 but had to change my UK licence for a French one so that they could take some points away. In France you start with (I think) ten points on your licence and a number are subtracted relevant to each infringement, until you have none left and your licence is invalid.

Beware if you do a lot of autoroute travel. I've heard (anecdotally) that 'they' can stop you at any Peage and check the time you passed through the previous one, calculate the distance/time and determine that you must have considerably exceeded the speed limit to get where you did in the elapsed time. Don't know anyone who has suffered as a result.... but it's a good after 'aperos' talking point! It certainly keeps me aware of the need to adhere to the speed limits and to make liberal use of the speed limiter on our Scenic's cruise control!

Regards CL

P.S. What happened to Cyclops?

he left her in france

you wait paulyyyyy they will get you for speeding in the end

lacroupade · 23-09-2009, 20:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptLimey

Hi Lacroupade

Yeah - should have got the last two letter clue ... RS....of course 'Rising Sun'. (It was, after all, late in the evening, following the obligatory 'aperos').

Yes, the new French registration numbers, as I'm given to understand, remain with the vehicle regardless of the departmental residence of the keeper/owner.

I've just registered a caravan I bought in the UK, here in the Lot Department of France and it does not have a departmental specific number, although it does have a blue 46 at the end, denoting the Lot. (Same difference really)

Re speeding - join the club!

Been nicked twice, once by an unmanned camera, paid the 90 Euros, 'toute suite', before the penalty rose due to delayed payment! Then by the Gendarmes with a 'hair dryer' radar gun. Paid another 90 but had to change my UK licence for a French one so that they could take some points away. In France you start with (I think) ten points on your licence and a number are subtracted relevant to each infringement, until you have none left and your licence is invalid.

Beware if you do a lot of autoroute travel. I've heard (anecdotally) that 'they' can stop you at any Peage and check the time you passed through the previous one, calculate the distance/time and determine that you must have considerably exceeded the speed limit to get where you did in the elapsed time. Don't know anyone who has suffered as a result.... but it's a good after 'aperos' talking point! It certainly keeps me aware of the need to adhere to the speed limits and to make liberal use of the speed limiter on our Scenic's cruise control!

Regards CL

P.S. What happened to Cyclops?

Colins in trouble now! LOL

Actually the thing about timing between the tolls is a myth....I asked the gendarme who explained that many years ago they did used to do that, but it was quickly decided to be (i) an infringement of civil liberties, and (ii) a data protection issue, so the info is no longer available to them. Yes they could do it, but the toll companies (now mostly spanish as you will know) won't part with the data....anyway I don't mind paying a cash fine if theres no points included, I've always thought that system was a load of tosh.

and register a caravan....?? god they love their bureaucracy don't they!

paul

CaptLimey · 24-09-2009, 13:16

In France not only must all caravans be registered but any trailer capable of carrying in excess of 500 kilos must not only be registered but must also have a braking system. The towing driver must have an extra certification on his (French) driving licence, for which he must have a medical examination.

Why does France have more civil servants per capita than any other European nation?

There's your answer...... bureaucracy gone mad!

But the wine's cheap!

CL

P.S. Thanks for exploding the 'motorway toll timing myth' (I did say it was anecdotal!)

22-09-2009, 19:28	#1
CaptLimey Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: South of France Vehicle: '03 LWB MK.4 3Ltr T2 Posts: 421	X Trails built in France? I'm watching an X Trail LHD at;- http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=170385311960. The seller states that it was built in France and sold new in Germany. I was unaware that Nissan built them in France - anybody have further knowledge? Regards CL

23-09-2009, 19:55	#8
CaptLimey Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: South of France Vehicle: '03 LWB MK.4 3Ltr T2 Posts: 421	Hi Lacroupade Yeah - should have got the last two letter clue ... RS....of course 'Rising Sun'. (It was, after all, late in the evening, following the obligatory 'aperos'). Yes, the new French registration numbers, as I'm given to understand, remain with the vehicle regardless of the departmental residence of the keeper/owner. I've just registered a caravan I bought in the UK, here in the Lot Department of France and it does not have a departmental specific number, although it does have a blue 46 at the end, denoting the Lot. (Same difference really) Re speeding - join the club! Been nicked twice, once by an unmanned camera, paid the 90 Euros, 'toute suite', before the penalty rose due to delayed payment! Then by the Gendarmes with a 'hair dryer' radar gun. Paid another 90 but had to change my UK licence for a French one so that they could take some points away. In France you start with (I think) ten points on your licence and a number are subtracted relevant to each infringement, until you have none left and your licence is invalid. Beware if you do a lot of autoroute travel. I've heard (anecdotally) that 'they' can stop you at any Peage and check the time you passed through the previous one, calculate the distance/time and determine that you must have considerably exceeded the speed limit to get where you did in the elapsed time. Don't know anyone who has suffered as a result.... but it's a good after 'aperos' talking point! It certainly keeps me aware of the need to adhere to the speed limits and to make liberal use of the speed limiter on our Scenic's cruise control! Regards CL P.S. What happened to Cyclops? Last edited by CaptLimey; 23-09-2009 at 19:56. Reason: Additional data

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22-09-2009, 20:05	#3
lacroupade Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: All hail to the Glove of Love... Posts: 9,212	http://wardsauto.com/ar/xtrail_global_collaboration/

22-09-2009, 20:09	#4
lacroupade Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: All hail to the Glove of Love... Posts: 9,212	I notice its carrying that new French registration marking - has that been around as long as 2005, I didn't think so? which implies it HAS been imported in from another EU country fairly recently....but not built in France I don't think from my quick research....

22-09-2009, 20:40	#5
lacroupade Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: All hail to the Glove of Love... Posts: 9,212	well after much digging i think the concensus is its japan.....the platform is used on other vehicles (Qashquai built in Sunderland for example) but the X-Trail would seem to emanate from the LOTRS :-)

24-09-2009, 13:16	#11
CaptLimey Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: South of France Vehicle: '03 LWB MK.4 3Ltr T2 Posts: 421	In France not only must all caravans be registered but any trailer capable of carrying in excess of 500 kilos must not only be registered but must also have a braking system. The towing driver must have an extra certification on his (French) driving licence, for which he must have a medical examination. Why does France have more civil servants per capita than any other European nation? There's your answer...... bureaucracy gone mad! But the wine's cheap! CL P.S. Thanks for exploding the 'motorway toll timing myth' (I did say it was anecdotal!)