Fire death's

Terranoman · 08-07-2009, 15:55

With the recent event in London where 6 people died how many of you have checked your smoke detectors?

You should have a smoke detector on every level of your house ie downstairs hallway, and upstairs landing. I have gone further and added one in the laundry room and one in each of the kidz bedrooms.

No matter how well little Tommy is trained one day he will play with matches whether out in the park with mates or his bedroom You did so why should he be any different.

Remember at night shut down stairs doors to stop fire spread. each door should hold back for for up to 30 minutes, and if the downstairs smoke alarm sounds with all the doors closed you should be able to get out by going straight down the stairs and out the front door.

Have an escape plan!!!!

if you cant get down the stairs what are you going to do?

We all meet in the front bedroom. This is where we can climb out the window onto a roof or close the door and stay safe.

Remember to have a phone upstairs to contact emergency services.

Ensure you all know what to do. and how you will get out.

Your local fire service will come to your house and help you plan an escape route and check / replace for FREE!! yes FREE!!! all your smoke detectors.

Please post below if you have any further questions.

lacroupade · 08-07-2009, 16:00

Hmmm...jolted me into reality there! Just out of interest, are you 'on the job'?

Terranoman · 08-07-2009, 16:05

Firefighter in Northamptonshire

lacroupade · 08-07-2009, 16:13

Then tell me; when you say keep downstairs doors close, will those twenty quid six-panel doors from the likes of Wickes etc.. really hold for that length of time? And if you spend out on proper fire doors (£60 each?) like the ones you are required to use on stairwell doors when you build a loft extension, what does that 20-30 minutes go up to typically?

Terranoman · 08-07-2009, 16:22

All new doors must meet BS standards which cover fire protection. With stairwell doors and loft room doors these must be on self closers and have a seal around the door that when it closes and heats up it seals the door to stop smoke coming into the room. They are designed with the intent that you may not have windows to climb out.

If you could see what the difference is when a door is closed to when it is open you would close every door possible. And this B*^&%£ks of "I like to give the cat / dog the run of the house at night". IT MAY COST YOUR FAMILY THEIR LIFE BY DOING SO!!!!

New cat £100 new son and daughter ??????? we all get over dead pets not dead kidz / family members

STAY SAFE

.

lacroupade · 08-07-2009, 16:30

Excellent reminder - thank you!

Paul · 08-07-2009, 16:54

Got some smoke & CO detectors today for the house & one for the caravan for only £6 each, then come here and read this..
Makes you think.

tezzer · 08-07-2009, 17:29

thanks Terranoman, smoke detectors are ok, mains operated so no battries to worry about.

lacroupade · 08-07-2009, 17:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by tezzer

thanks Terranoman, smoke detectors are ok, mains operated so no battries to worry about.

battery backup surely Tez?

ocelot · 08-07-2009, 22:36

Next we'll have systems compying with BS 5839 parts 1 & 2..........

Damn good thread tho, thanks Terranno ............

As a sometime design engineer in the life safety industry, I can only underline the recommendation that fire/carbon monoxide detection becomes a standard wherever human life is to be found....

Deleted account DD · 08-07-2009, 22:45

I'm glad youve posted this T'man

Theres points in there regarding planning in particular the type of which a lot of people scoff at .......until they've been there

tezzer · 08-07-2009, 23:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by lacroupade

battery backup surely Tez?

no so im told, they use a capacitor, they also have green light, which even in pitch darkness you can see your way about.

lacroupade · 09-07-2009, 09:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by ocelot

Next we'll have systems compying with BS 5839 parts 1 & 2..........

Damn good thread tho, thanks Terranno ............

As a sometime design engineer in the life safety industry, I can only underline the recommendation that fire/carbon monoxide detection becomes a standard wherever human life is to be found....

Good point actually, I do have a CO detector near the gas boiler, just in case!

ocelot · 09-07-2009, 18:22

Anyone who uses gas should have a carbon monoxide detector fitted. Carbonmonoxyde is an odourless killer and is responsible for a fair few deaths each year, I have one fitted to the boat, which I consider essential, I know others who don't bother. I'd also recommend some Kidde extinguishers, not the tiny ones but those of medium size, and a fire blanket by the cooker as well. The smoke detector (you can buy combined monoxide and smoke detectors these days) should be fitted in areas where the potential for combustion exists, ie kitchens, rooms with open fires etc.... I'd also fit them to hall areas, at the highest point and away from any lintles or walls as well, by at least a meter. That way, you can guarantee that any smoke will be detected quickly and the alarm raised.
So go on, pull your finger out, you know you want to!!

If anyone's not sure about where to fit a detector, ask me and I'll do my best to help. For the record, as part of my business, I work on voice alarm systems and have designed fire alarm systems in the past.......

08-07-2009, 15:55	#1
Terranoman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Northamptonshire Vehicle: Terrano II Posts: 622	Fire death's With the recent event in London where 6 people died how many of you have checked your smoke detectors? You should have a smoke detector on every level of your house ie downstairs hallway, and upstairs landing. I have gone further and added one in the laundry room and one in each of the kidz bedrooms. No matter how well little Tommy is trained one day he will play with matches whether out in the park with mates or his bedroom You did so why should he be any different. Remember at night shut down stairs doors to stop fire spread. each door should hold back for for up to 30 minutes, and if the downstairs smoke alarm sounds with all the doors closed you should be able to get out by going straight down the stairs and out the front door. Have an escape plan!!!! if you cant get down the stairs what are you going to do? We all meet in the front bedroom. This is where we can climb out the window onto a roof or close the door and stay safe. Remember to have a phone upstairs to contact emergency services. Ensure you all know what to do. and how you will get out. Your local fire service will come to your house and help you plan an escape route and check / replace for FREE!! yes FREE!!! all your smoke detectors. Please post below if you have any further questions.

08-07-2009, 16:22	#5
Terranoman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Northamptonshire Vehicle: Terrano II Posts: 622	All new doors must meet BS standards which cover fire protection. With stairwell doors and loft room doors these must be on self closers and have a seal around the door that when it closes and heats up it seals the door to stop smoke coming into the room. They are designed with the intent that you may not have windows to climb out. If you could see what the difference is when a door is closed to when it is open you would close every door possible. And this B*^&%£ks of "I like to give the cat / dog the run of the house at night". IT MAY COST YOUR FAMILY THEIR LIFE BY DOING SO!!!! New cat £100 new son and daughter ??????? we all get over dead pets not dead kidz / family members STAY SAFE.

08-07-2009, 16:54	#7
Paul Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: North West Vehicle: 2002 Terrano 3.0 Di LWB Posts: 1,961	Got some smoke & CO detectors today for the house & one for the caravan for only £6 each, then come here and read this.. Makes you think. __________________ 2002 Terrano 3.0 Di LWB..

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08-07-2009, 16:00	#2
lacroupade Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: All hail to the Glove of Love... Posts: 9,212	Hmmm...jolted me into reality there! Just out of interest, are you 'on the job'?

08-07-2009, 16:05	#3
Terranoman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Northamptonshire Vehicle: Terrano II Posts: 622	Firefighter in Northamptonshire

08-07-2009, 16:13	#4
lacroupade Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: All hail to the Glove of Love... Posts: 9,212	Then tell me; when you say keep downstairs doors close, will those twenty quid six-panel doors from the likes of Wickes etc.. really hold for that length of time? And if you spend out on proper fire doors (£60 each?) like the ones you are required to use on stairwell doors when you build a loft extension, what does that 20-30 minutes go up to typically?

08-07-2009, 16:30	#6
lacroupade Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: All hail to the Glove of Love... Posts: 9,212	Excellent reminder - thank you!

08-07-2009, 17:29	#8
tezzer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: basildon essex Vehicle: transit camper van 1987 Posts: 2,829	thanks Terranoman, smoke detectors are ok, mains operated so no battries to worry about.

08-07-2009, 22:36	#10
ocelot Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: merseyside Vehicle: Nissan Terrano 2.7 Posts: 242	Next we'll have systems compying with BS 5839 parts 1 & 2.......... Damn good thread tho, thanks Terranno ............ As a sometime design engineer in the life safety industry, I can only underline the recommendation that fire/carbon monoxide detection becomes a standard wherever human life is to be found....

08-07-2009, 22:45	#11
Deleted account DD Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,705	I'm glad youve posted this T'man Theres points in there regarding planning in particular the type of which a lot of people scoff at .......until they've been there

09-07-2009, 18:22	#14
ocelot Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: merseyside Vehicle: Nissan Terrano 2.7 Posts: 242	Anyone who uses gas should have a carbon monoxide detector fitted. Carbonmonoxyde is an odourless killer and is responsible for a fair few deaths each year, I have one fitted to the boat, which I consider essential, I know others who don't bother. I'd also recommend some Kidde extinguishers, not the tiny ones but those of medium size, and a fire blanket by the cooker as well. The smoke detector (you can buy combined monoxide and smoke detectors these days) should be fitted in areas where the potential for combustion exists, ie kitchens, rooms with open fires etc.... I'd also fit them to hall areas, at the highest point and away from any lintles or walls as well, by at least a meter. That way, you can guarantee that any smoke will be detected quickly and the alarm raised. So go on, pull your finger out, you know you want to!! If anyone's not sure about where to fit a detector, ask me and I'll do my best to help. For the record, as part of my business, I work on voice alarm systems and have designed fire alarm systems in the past.......