privacy invasion mobile phone directory

tezzer · 20-06-2009, 23:16

whats your thoughts on this idea?

The upcoming launch of the first mobile phone directory was yesterday attacked as a 'clear invasion of privacy'.

Connectivity, the company behind the service, has bought details of 16million phone numbers - around 40 per cent of those in regular use in the UK.

It says it will not give out mobile numbers, but instead act as an intermediary to put users in touch with whoever they are searching for.

But Nigel Evans MP, the Conservative chairman of the All Party Group on ID Fraud, described the emergence of the new service as 'shocking' and 'depressing'.

He said: 'People feel that their mobile phone number is very private to them and should not be traded for profit.

'People will be infuriated if they find they are bombarded with calls from people they don't want or expect to hear from. It is a clear invasion of privacy.'

Connectivity has bought its list of mobile numbers from brokers - who themselves have purchased personal details from market research firms and online stores.

Individuals will also be able to volunteer to place their numbers with the mobile directory inquiry service, which launches on June 16.

Connectivity insists it is 'privacy friendly' because it does not hand over mobile phone numbers to users of the service.

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Instead, operators will find and dial the target's number and ask whether they are prepared to receive the call.

However, Simon Davies of Privacy International - who left the project after working on it as a paid consultant during its early phase - is worried about how the numbers have been collected.

'There are fundamental privacy issues,' he said. 'The company needs to be far more specific about where it acquired the numbers on its directory.'
Enlarge How they can find your number graphic

Connectivity claims it has been given approval for its service by the Office of the Information Commission.

But an ICO spokesman said: 'We made it absolutely clear to Connectivity that they should not use numbers where there was any doubt about whether the consumer was happy for their information to be used in this way.'

The chief executive of 118800, Raj Raithatha, yesterday insisted that personal privacy will be protected.

He said: 'All searches on 118800.co.uk are via our secure application that doesn't show mobile numbers or names and addresses of individuals. Neither do we give prompts that could disclose personal information.'

It is possible to become ex-directory by texting the letter 'E' to 118 800 from your mobile phone.

However, this will carry a charge and the change could take several weeks.

To remove your number go here. http://www.118800.co.uk/removeme/remove.html

willow · 20-06-2009, 23:27

Ok so
no mobile phone for me then

also no car,home address

in fact anything that could trace me

so stop talking here then

No to be honest just get on with your life

Or life will stop you

rossco · 21-06-2009, 10:14

We take it for granted that we'll wake up in the morning.

And if you do wake up in the morning then you are on to a winner and really anything else is,.............. will take it or leave it.

If they want to find you they can

Big brother is watching

Try googling your name

tezzer · 21-06-2009, 10:48

im not worried by this, but just wondered what other people thought, i know they can find you if needed. you only have to go to your nearest town for shopping and you are being monitored. i think you are being watched on the roads now aswell

rossco · 22-06-2009, 08:50

With one CCTV for every 14 persons in the UK and that's the one they now about !!!
Don't forget the cell phone cameras

jims-terrano · 08-07-2009, 18:25

I took with the usual pinch of salt as I tend to do with a lot of spoofs. However check this out http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...ch/8091621.stm

Jim

ocelot · 08-07-2009, 22:31

its no spoof, I've removed my number from the list.............

makeitfit · 08-07-2009, 22:50

So what?
If I get an incoming call not in my phone it gets the answerphone anyway

So chill, if someones got the time and is sad enough it's not hard to get all sorts of info on you from publicly avail data anyway

I've got 50 million odd phone nos and addresses on disc and postcode search will pull up all sorts of stuff from your electoral roll info. etc

jims-terrano · 08-07-2009, 23:21

It's just one more way of removing your details from the public domain, you can opt out of the publicly available electoral register. My main reasoning is that I don't want either myself or my kids to get all and sundry phoning even though it's usually marketing. You can also register your home and mobile numbers with TPS Online (do a google), I'm also registered with MPS Online too which cuts down on mail. I'm very carefull to opt out when filling in forms and don't give info that people or companies don't need.

Now when the phone rings it's bloody family

Jim T

PS Alot to be said for privacy

Deleted account DD · 09-07-2009, 08:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by makeitfit

I've got 50 million odd phone nos and addresses on disc and postcode search will pull up all sorts of stuff from your electoral roll info. etc

Yup, we're all listed somewhere despite best efforts

lacroupade · 09-07-2009, 09:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by jims-terrano

It's just one more way of removing your details from the public domain, you can opt out of the publicly available electoral register. My main reasoning is that I don't want either myself or my kids to get all and sundry phoning even though it's usually marketing. You can also register your home and mobile numbers with TPS Online (do a google), I'm also registered with MPS Online too which cuts down on mail. I'm very carefull to opt out when filling in forms and don't give info that people or companies don't need.

Now when the phone rings it's bloody family

Jim T

PS Alot to be said for privacy

Same goes for giving your address in shops - its usually for their marketing rather than anything else....but a few years ago I bought a very expensive mountain bike, gave my address for the guarantee and a week later my house got turned over and ten grands worth of stuff nicked, including said bike.

They eventually caught the perp, and guess where he worked? Yep, the bike shop!

So now I just ask them what their insurance cover is for theft at my premises and they soon stop asking for my personal details!

rustic · 09-07-2009, 11:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by makeitfit

So what?
If I get an incoming call not in my phone it gets the answerphone anyway

So chill, if someones got the time and is sad enough it's not hard to get all sorts of info on you from publicly avail data anyway

I've got 50 million odd phone nos and addresses on disc and postcode search will pull up all sorts of stuff from your electoral roll info. etc

I agree, if the number is not in my phone book it doesn't get answered, if it then goes to voice mail why should I pay to listen to it.

Still doesn't get answered.

The mobile phone is for me, for my convenience, or my family. The rest of the world can leave a message on the answer phone at home.

What about calls to your mobile while abroad, you will be paying for those....

lacroupade · 09-07-2009, 11:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustic

What about calls to your mobile while abroad, you will be paying for those....

Bloody good point Rustic, I'd forgotten about that nasty little angle! I suspect you'd end up paying a charge for the call to even arrive and go to v/mail, so all the more reason to get yourself de-listed! Ba5tard5!!

20-06-2009, 23:16	#1
tezzer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: basildon essex Vehicle: transit camper van 1987 Posts: 2,829	privacy invasion mobile phone directory whats your thoughts on this idea? The upcoming launch of the first mobile phone directory was yesterday attacked as a 'clear invasion of privacy'. Connectivity, the company behind the service, has bought details of 16million phone numbers - around 40 per cent of those in regular use in the UK. It says it will not give out mobile numbers, but instead act as an intermediary to put users in touch with whoever they are searching for. But Nigel Evans MP, the Conservative chairman of the All Party Group on ID Fraud, described the emergence of the new service as 'shocking' and 'depressing'. He said: 'People feel that their mobile phone number is very private to them and should not be traded for profit. 'People will be infuriated if they find they are bombarded with calls from people they don't want or expect to hear from. It is a clear invasion of privacy.' Connectivity has bought its list of mobile numbers from brokers - who themselves have purchased personal details from market research firms and online stores. Individuals will also be able to volunteer to place their numbers with the mobile directory inquiry service, which launches on June 16. Connectivity insists it is 'privacy friendly' because it does not hand over mobile phone numbers to users of the service. More... * Controversial mobile phone directory 118 800 fails on its first day * Apple launches iPhone 3GS with 32GB memory but UK customers furious over upgrade costs Instead, operators will find and dial the target's number and ask whether they are prepared to receive the call. However, Simon Davies of Privacy International - who left the project after working on it as a paid consultant during its early phase - is worried about how the numbers have been collected. 'There are fundamental privacy issues,' he said. 'The company needs to be far more specific about where it acquired the numbers on its directory.' Enlarge How they can find your number graphic Connectivity claims it has been given approval for its service by the Office of the Information Commission. But an ICO spokesman said: 'We made it absolutely clear to Connectivity that they should not use numbers where there was any doubt about whether the consumer was happy for their information to be used in this way.' The chief executive of 118800, Raj Raithatha, yesterday insisted that personal privacy will be protected. He said: 'All searches on 118800.co.uk are via our secure application that doesn't show mobile numbers or names and addresses of individuals. Neither do we give prompts that could disclose personal information.' It is possible to become ex-directory by texting the letter 'E' to 118 800 from your mobile phone. However, this will carry a charge and the change could take several weeks. To remove your number go here. http://www.118800.co.uk/removeme/remove.html

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20-06-2009, 23:27	#2
willow Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Norfolk East Vehicle: terrano11 1995 TD Posts: 1,955	Ok so no mobile phone for me then also no car,home address in fact anything that could trace me so stop talking here then No to be honest just get on with your life Or life will stop you

21-06-2009, 10:14	#3
rossco Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Wellington North Island New Zealand Vehicle: NIssan Mistral Posts: 1,107	We take it for granted that we'll wake up in the morning. And if you do wake up in the morning then you are on to a winner and really anything else is,.............. will take it or leave it. If they want to find you they can Big brother is watching Try googling your name

21-06-2009, 10:48	#4
tezzer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: basildon essex Vehicle: transit camper van 1987 Posts: 2,829	im not worried by this, but just wondered what other people thought, i know they can find you if needed. you only have to go to your nearest town for shopping and you are being monitored. i think you are being watched on the roads now aswell

22-06-2009, 08:50	#5
rossco Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Wellington North Island New Zealand Vehicle: NIssan Mistral Posts: 1,107	With one CCTV for every 14 persons in the UK and that's the one they now about !!! Don't forget the cell phone cameras

08-07-2009, 18:25	#6
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	I took with the usual pinch of salt as I tend to do with a lot of spoofs. However check this out http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...ch/8091621.stm Jim

08-07-2009, 22:31	#7
ocelot Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: merseyside Vehicle: Nissan Terrano 2.7 Posts: 242	its no spoof, I've removed my number from the list.............

08-07-2009, 22:50	#8
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	So what? If I get an incoming call not in my phone it gets the answerphone anyway So chill, if someones got the time and is sad enough it's not hard to get all sorts of info on you from publicly avail data anyway I've got 50 million odd phone nos and addresses on disc and postcode search will pull up all sorts of stuff from your electoral roll info. etc

08-07-2009, 23:21	#9
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	It's just one more way of removing your details from the public domain, you can opt out of the publicly available electoral register. My main reasoning is that I don't want either myself or my kids to get all and sundry phoning even though it's usually marketing. You can also register your home and mobile numbers with TPS Online (do a google), I'm also registered with MPS Online too which cuts down on mail. I'm very carefull to opt out when filling in forms and don't give info that people or companies don't need. Now when the phone rings it's bloody family Jim T PS Alot to be said for privacy