anyone an electrician or good with electrics

extreme-4x4 · 29-01-2009, 20:06

ok

i want to make something like this

so i need a 12 v waterproof strip light

i want to run it off the 12 v socket used for towing my towing electrics

also i want to make a 5- 10 metre extension lead to run rower to it

my question is can i buy a fitting that will take 12v florescent tubes
where ?

also if a want to run a lead off my towing electrics what should i use

basicly when stuck at the weekend it was bloody dark and hard to see around you. id like to light the area around me but not blinding light like torches or car lights.

would be good for fixing the truck in the event of breakdown too

any ideas or advice would be excellent

oh and if you see potential in my idea and want to take it further. i want 10 percent for the idea

Terranosaurus · 29-01-2009, 20:21

Just buy something like this

http://cpc.farnell.com/unbranded/cr-...questid=447435

You'll struggle to find a 12v floursecent light that is water tight and by the time you've finished the above will be cheaper. It comes with a mains and a car charger - would be fairly straighforwrd to rig it to run from towing electrics but easier to just use cig lighter.

extreme-4x4 · 29-01-2009, 20:36

thats the idea... but its 240v with a 12v battery supply

i want just 12 supply that way i have unlimited power supply from alternator and no batteries to wear out or not work

Terranosaurus · 29-01-2009, 21:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by extreme-4x4

thats the idea... but its 240v with a 12v battery supply

i want just 12 supply that way i have unlimited power supply from alternator and no batteries to wear out or not work

Its also got a 12v DC car charger to keep it topped up.

extreme-4x4 · 29-01-2009, 23:56

yeah but i dont want battery of any kind, the always wear out or dont charge anymore . i can get strip lights from argos that run off batteries .

then you throw them away cos they break

Terranosaurus · 30-01-2009, 00:07

Thats what I'm tryin to say - you don't have to use the battery just keep it plugged in to the car when using - just needs a longer lead making.

extreme-4x4 · 30-01-2009, 00:20

aaah haa ----- got ya now

i got there in the end, thanks will look into it tomorrow

thanks you have the patience of a saint

30-01-2009, 10:46

how about this

http://marinestore.co.uk/Merchant2/m...ctric-lighting

extreme-4x4 · 30-01-2009, 11:23

too bright. and directional .causing shadows etc

you just end up talking to people who turn out to be shadows or you get whipped in the face with a branch cos you cant see, either too dark or too bright.

id like to be able to run an extension lead like a proper wind up extension lead off the towing electrics say 5-10 metres

into this id like
a 2-3 foot 12v strip light for lighting the area
also to plug into the extension lead a small 12v spot light for a work light

i think this would make a good bit of kit for recovery, camping, overland events

another thing you could do is plug an amber beacon into it and have it 5-10 metres away from the rear of your vehicle... for when you break down on a motorway or in a dangerous situation

i think a 12v extension lead running of the back of your truck would be a fantastic bit of kit

anyone else got any ideas ?

30-01-2009, 11:30

local caravan shop ??

extreme-4x4 · 30-01-2009, 11:44

ok so is

a 240v 13a cable good enough to run 12v 13a

what and where would i need to fuse it so as not to wreck the battery if something breaks or gets wet ?

i think could do the plugs from a caravan shop and the light from electrics supplier.

what is the max power i could take from the towing electrics what wires have the best output

or could i run a new feed direct from the battery to a second socket on the back of the truck to run this from... this would be good so i wont need my truck running while im working. or damage my truck electrics.if overloaded

zippy656 · 30-01-2009, 11:51

i think with 12v, running over 5m to 10m youd het to much power drop, so the light be a lot dimmer or not even work..

might be better off with this ..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/12v-24v-20A-AM...1%7C240%3A1318

?

Terranosaurus · 30-01-2009, 11:55

You'd be better using a grey socket rather than a normal black socket and wiring the light to use the attery charging circuit on the plug that way you can plug into anyone who has the second grey socket. Normal black sockets don't have any circuits spare and those in use aren't very high powered.

Mains cable is fine for 12v.

Never seen anything longer than 12" in 12v flourescents though. By the time you've finished you'd be able to but 3 of those lights I've linked to.

Terranosaurus · 30-01-2009, 11:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by zippy656

i think with 12v, running over 5m to 10m youd het to much power drop, so the light be a lot dimmer or not even work..

might be better off with this ..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/12v-24v-20A-AM...1%7C240%3A1318

?

For what? Charging his battery at home?

zippy656 · 30-01-2009, 12:13

oops, now. didnt mean that at all. I ment like the battry bosters, so the power and lights are together, no need for a long lead in the dark for some one to fall over.

Zippy

29-01-2009, 20:06	#1
extreme-4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WALES Posts: 6,295	anyone an electrician or good with electrics ok i want to make something like this so i need a 12 v waterproof strip light i want to run it off the 12 v socket used for towing my towing electrics also i want to make a 5- 10 metre extension lead to run rower to it my question is can i buy a fitting that will take 12v florescent tubes where ? also if a want to run a lead off my towing electrics what should i use basicly when stuck at the weekend it was bloody dark and hard to see around you. id like to light the area around me but not blinding light like torches or car lights. would be good for fixing the truck in the event of breakdown too any ideas or advice would be excellent oh and if you see potential in my idea and want to take it further. i want 10 percent for the idea

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29-01-2009, 20:21	#2
Terranosaurus Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: YORKSHIRE Vehicle: 2001 2.7 TDi T2 SWB Posts: 4,077	Just buy something like this http://cpc.farnell.com/unbranded/cr-...questid=447435 You'll struggle to find a 12v floursecent light that is water tight and by the time you've finished the above will be cheaper. It comes with a mains and a car charger - would be fairly straighforwrd to rig it to run from towing electrics but easier to just use cig lighter.

29-01-2009, 20:36	#3
extreme-4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WALES Posts: 6,295	thats the idea... but its 240v with a 12v battery supply i want just 12 supply that way i have unlimited power supply from alternator and no batteries to wear out or not work

29-01-2009, 23:56	#5
extreme-4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WALES Posts: 6,295	yeah but i dont want battery of any kind, the always wear out or dont charge anymore . i can get strip lights from argos that run off batteries . then you throw them away cos they break

30-01-2009, 00:07	#6
Terranosaurus Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: YORKSHIRE Vehicle: 2001 2.7 TDi T2 SWB Posts: 4,077	Thats what I'm tryin to say - you don't have to use the battery just keep it plugged in to the car when using - just needs a longer lead making.

30-01-2009, 00:20	#7
extreme-4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WALES Posts: 6,295	aaah haa ----- got ya now i got there in the end, thanks will look into it tomorrow thanks you have the patience of a saint

30-01-2009, 10:46	#8
poppypiesdad Guest Posts: n/a	how about this http://marinestore.co.uk/Merchant2/m...ctric-lighting

30-01-2009, 11:23	#9
extreme-4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WALES Posts: 6,295	too bright. and directional .causing shadows etc you just end up talking to people who turn out to be shadows or you get whipped in the face with a branch cos you cant see, either too dark or too bright. id like to be able to run an extension lead like a proper wind up extension lead off the towing electrics say 5-10 metres into this id like a 2-3 foot 12v strip light for lighting the area also to plug into the extension lead a small 12v spot light for a work light i think this would make a good bit of kit for recovery, camping, overland events another thing you could do is plug an amber beacon into it and have it 5-10 metres away from the rear of your vehicle... for when you break down on a motorway or in a dangerous situation i think a 12v extension lead running of the back of your truck would be a fantastic bit of kit anyone else got any ideas ?

30-01-2009, 11:30	#10
poppypiesdad Guest Posts: n/a	local caravan shop ??

30-01-2009, 11:44	#11
extreme-4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WALES Posts: 6,295	ok so is a 240v 13a cable good enough to run 12v 13a what and where would i need to fuse it so as not to wreck the battery if something breaks or gets wet ? i think could do the plugs from a caravan shop and the light from electrics supplier. what is the max power i could take from the towing electrics what wires have the best output or could i run a new feed direct from the battery to a second socket on the back of the truck to run this from... this would be good so i wont need my truck running while im working. or damage my truck electrics.if overloaded

30-01-2009, 11:51	#12
zippy656 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Devizes Wiltshire Vehicle: Nissan Note Ntec 1.5 Posts: 14,138	i think with 12v, running over 5m to 10m youd het to much power drop, so the light be a lot dimmer or not even work.. might be better off with this .. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/12v-24v-20A-AM...1%7C240%3A1318 ?

30-01-2009, 11:55	#13
Terranosaurus Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: YORKSHIRE Vehicle: 2001 2.7 TDi T2 SWB Posts: 4,077	You'd be better using a grey socket rather than a normal black socket and wiring the light to use the attery charging circuit on the plug that way you can plug into anyone who has the second grey socket. Normal black sockets don't have any circuits spare and those in use aren't very high powered. Mains cable is fine for 12v. Never seen anything longer than 12" in 12v flourescents though. By the time you've finished you'd be able to but 3 of those lights I've linked to.

30-01-2009, 12:13	#15
zippy656 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Devizes Wiltshire Vehicle: Nissan Note Ntec 1.5 Posts: 14,138	oops, now. didnt mean that at all. I ment like the battry bosters, so the power and lights are together, no need for a long lead in the dark for some one to fall over. Zippy