Brexit

solarman216 · 21-03-2019, 22:52

I know this is a 4 x 4 forum and if what I say causes offence then please mods delete it, but had a bit of an eye opener today when I went to my local steel supplier, and asked him why he had so much good steel in his skips and when he told me it was down to CE requirements I asked for details, so when he buys in stock in 7 Mtr lengths it has to be allocated a CE number and if he only needs say 6 Mtr from that item then that is allocated the CE number, the off cut, perfectly useful but now does not have a number so cannot be sold on, hence in the skip, if anybody wants to try and tell me that the EU does us any good I will say on your bike, the sooner we exit from that bunch of scammers the better but our leaders are totally out of control, for example the MP that proposes that no new builds in 2025 will not be allowed to have gas CH is in control of a company that is promoting hydrogen as the way forward, yea right scamming barstuard, going to make billions from his own crap legislation, rant over, Rick

elty001 · 21-03-2019, 22:58

This is one of the reasons we buy in pre cut lengths of box section and tube at work.
Have the means to cut our own but like you say the off cut cannot be used on other jobs if material certs are required.
Its just madness

Jay666d · 21-03-2019, 22:59

In a world where we are trying to eliminate waste, this just seems like utter madness!

elty001 · 21-03-2019, 23:05

The amount of good steel we scrap is ridiculous.
Good news for me if i need some

solarman216 · 21-03-2019, 23:09

Point is the average UK person does not have any idea, Rick

solarman216 · 21-03-2019, 23:20

Strange that no one has commented on the barstuard making legislation that will make him a billionaire, to the expense of Joe public, Rick

Lazy-Ferret · 21-03-2019, 23:42

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Originally Posted by solarman216

Strange that no one has commented on the barstuard making legislation that will make him a billionaire, to the expense of Joe public, Rick

Ironically, Suz and I were having a deep and meaningful chat in the car yesterday, and I was saying how we can't trust anything they say/do, as it is all in their own interests, and how they are basically controlled by the big companies, not the people who voted them in. That just proves my point.

There are so many holes in all their "environmental policies" when you actually take out the "knee jerk" reaction and look at the bigger picture.

jims-terrano · 22-03-2019, 00:19

Probably better not discussing politics on this forum.

solarman216 · 22-03-2019, 00:41

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Originally Posted by jims-terrano

Probably better not discussing politics on this forum.

Maybe Jim but it seems it is hitting home, just my point, Rick

jims-terrano · 22-03-2019, 01:08

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Originally Posted by solarman216

Maybe Jim but it seems it is hitting home, just my point, Rick

Point taken Rick and at the end of the day we all know each other well enough not to fall out.

For what it’s worth I do believe the EU is not all negative, it’s not perfect by any stretch of the imagination. However, my point of view is that we are far better not just being part of it but being at the centre of it. I think the EU is blamed when not guilty. I went to the pub tonight, first time in abiut two months and was listening to a brexit conversation. This particular bloke was saying that the french had stuffed sheep in fields so that the satellites coming over could see the farm had lots of animals and therefore got more money.

The original campaigns were floored, both sides blatantly lied. The electorate were not given all the information or implications. There was a lot of myths spread by outside bodies as well as internal organisations.

The media and politicians are great at scare mongering about what will and won’t happen when brexit does or doesn’t happen.

At the end of the day it doesn’t matter what you or I think say or do, we are insignificant. The only time that we matter to mps is when they want electing.

jims-terrano · 22-03-2019, 01:17

The one thing that is certain about brexit whatever date it is or isn’t. The sun will still rise the morning after.

luke1987 · 22-03-2019, 01:57

Yep and all the 2.7's will still be running on veg long after the diesel dries up

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jims-terrano · 22-03-2019, 04:50

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Originally Posted by luke1987

Yep and all the 2.7's will still be running on veg long after the diesel dries up

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You forgot to mention rusting, they’ll carry on rusting

Banshee · 22-03-2019, 09:33

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Originally Posted by luke1987

Yep and all the 2.7's will still be running on veg long after the diesel dries up

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Lovely

Fez_uk · 22-03-2019, 10:35

What size steel? Maybe it's to stop dodgy steel stockists from selling cheap chinese dangerous steel as good steel and thus stopping it from ending up in buildings and structures.

21-03-2019, 22:52	#1
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	Brexit I know this is a 4 x 4 forum and if what I say causes offence then please mods delete it, but had a bit of an eye opener today when I went to my local steel supplier, and asked him why he had so much good steel in his skips and when he told me it was down to CE requirements I asked for details, so when he buys in stock in 7 Mtr lengths it has to be allocated a CE number and if he only needs say 6 Mtr from that item then that is allocated the CE number, the off cut, perfectly useful but now does not have a number so cannot be sold on, hence in the skip, if anybody wants to try and tell me that the EU does us any good I will say on your bike, the sooner we exit from that bunch of scammers the better but our leaders are totally out of control, for example the MP that proposes that no new builds in 2025 will not be allowed to have gas CH is in control of a company that is promoting hydrogen as the way forward, yea right scamming barstuard, going to make billions from his own crap legislation, rant over, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

21-03-2019, 23:09	#5
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	Point is the average UK person does not have any idea, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

21-03-2019, 23:20	#6
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	Strange that no one has commented on the barstuard making legislation that will make him a billionaire, to the expense of Joe public, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

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21-03-2019, 22:58	#2
elty001 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Aflreton,Derbyshire. Vehicle: 2000se+ 2.7tdi terrano II Posts: 6,832	This is one of the reasons we buy in pre cut lengths of box section and tube at work. Have the means to cut our own but like you say the off cut cannot be used on other jobs if material certs are required. Its just madness

21-03-2019, 22:59	#3
Jay666d Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Northumberland Vehicle: Patrol GU3 (Y61) 3.0 SVE Posts: 1,375	In a world where we are trying to eliminate waste, this just seems like utter madness!

21-03-2019, 23:05	#4
elty001 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Aflreton,Derbyshire. Vehicle: 2000se+ 2.7tdi terrano II Posts: 6,832	The amount of good steel we scrap is ridiculous. Good news for me if i need some

22-03-2019, 00:19	#8
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	Probably better not discussing politics on this forum.

22-03-2019, 01:17	#11
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	The one thing that is certain about brexit whatever date it is or isn’t. The sun will still rise the morning after.

22-03-2019, 01:57	#12
luke1987 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Manchester Vehicle: Nissan Terrano 2.7 SE LWB Posts: 258	Yep and all the 2.7's will still be running on veg long after the diesel dries up .

22-03-2019, 10:35	#15
Fez_uk Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mid-Wales Vehicle: Maverick 2.7 - Patrol 4.2 Posts: 5,645	What size steel? Maybe it's to stop dodgy steel stockists from selling cheap chinese dangerous steel as good steel and thus stopping it from ending up in buildings and structures.